Women are my only and only distraction from Enlightment

[Emerald]

7 minutes ago, bambi said:

So you are saying

1) Enlightenment for you is a complete denial of worldy life and even your humanity?

2) Enlightnement is a death of some sort (this was non specified)

3) That you dont want enlightenment in this life time

4) You want some other unspecified life as Emerald

Is this correct?

First off, much of this will sound way out there... because these are what my medicine journeys have shown me. And I have adopted many of these insights into how I approach my life, as they have helped me get on track with what I really want to experience.

I just wanted to preface it before I answer.

1. Enlightenment isn't a denial as there is no one there to deny anything. It is simply a total dispossession of the illusion of the story that you are currently living to the point were there is nothing but pure consciousness. It is where reality (including yourself) blows away like dust in the wind and empty consciousness itself remains. But human attachments can be an impediment to a human being relinquishing the illusion of life and reality. This is why it can be more difficult to wake up as a householder because there is more to be attached to.

2. Yes, ego dissolution is death itself, just not death from a bodily perspective. It's a death from the perspective of consciousness. The way I would describe it is that it's like a drop of water getting sublimated into the ocean... only that ocean is pure nothingness and pure consciousness.

3. Yes, that's correct. I was shown in my medicine journey that the reason why God decided to split off an element of its consciousness to incarnate into the illusory finite form Emerald is because this element of its consciousness did not want to be open and accepting of infinite suffering. And to be reintegrated with God, there must be a total willingness to create, know, experience, and love all things in existence... including all suffering. And it was too much for this point of God's consciousness, so out of mercy to itself, God cut away this part of itself and incarnated it into a finite form where there is a finite amount of suffering to experience. And it was through the contraction and limitation that there was mercy.

4. Yes, it showed me that Emerald was the illusion/story that was woven for this purpose. And the preference at this point, seems to be to live infinite lifetimes as this character in order to avoid the awareness of infinite suffering and infinite knowledge. It also in other journeys showed me many permutations of Emerald lives, as this is where God's suffering part goes to get a vacation from the infinite. And it even reassured me in my last journey that I took that I could choose to live as many lives as Emerald as I wanted to. And it has shown me how valuable the function of my life is as it is only in the finite and imperfection that consciousness can experience meaning and beauty. And it showed me that, if I have a choice between being God and being Emerald, that it is wiser for me to handicap myself into smallness and limitation and choose Emerald.

[Emerald]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Oh sure.

Wanting Truth in one in ten million.

It astounds me how little people care about truth. Savages.

Do you really want truth?

[AION]

Not wanting truth is truth too

[bambi]

3 minutes ago, Emerald said:

First off, much of this will sound way out there... because these are what my medicine journeys have shown me. And I have adopted many of these insights into how I approach my life, as they have helped me get on track with what I really want to experience.

I just wanted to preface it before I answer.

1. Enlightenment isn't a denial as there is no one there to deny anything. It is simply a total dispossession of the illusion of the story that you are currently living to the point were there is nothing but pure consciousness. It is where reality (including yourself) blows away like dust in the wind and empty consciousness itself remains. But human attachments can be an impediment to a human being relinquishing the illusion of life and reality. This is why it can be more difficult to wake up as a householder because there is more to be attached to.

2. Yes, ego dissolution is death itself, just not death from a bodily perspective. It's a death from the perspective of consciousness. The way I would describe it is that it's like a drop of water getting sublimated into the ocean... only that ocean is pure nothingness and pure consciousness.

3. Yes, that's correct. I was shown in my medicine journey that the reason why God decided to split off an element of its consciousness to incarnate into the illusory finite form Emerald is because this element of its consciousness did not want to be open and accepting of infinite suffering. And to be reintegrated with God, there must be a total willingness to create, know, experience, and love all things in existence... including all suffering. And it was too much for this point of God's consciousness, so out of mercy to itself, God cut away this part of itself and incarnated it into a finite form where there is a finite amount of suffering to experience. And it was through the contraction and limitation that there was mercy.

4. Yes, it showed me that Emerald was the illusion/story that was woven for this purpose. And the preference at this point, seems to be to live infinite lifetimes as this character in order to avoid the awareness of infinite suffering and infinite knowledge. It also in other journeys showed me many permutations of Emerald lives, as this is where God's suffering part goes to get a vacation from the infinite. And it even reassured me in my last journey that I took that I could choose to live as many lives as Emerald as I wanted to. And it has shown me how valuable the function of my life is as it is only in the finite and imperfection that consciousness can experience meaning and beauty. And it showed me that, if I have a choice between being God and being Emerald, that it is wiser for me to handicap myself into smallness and limitation and choose Emerald.

Yes still hard to follow. But why would you not chose God, and how can you trust that your mind isnt lieing to you? Alot of your message presuppose lies are better than truth for you

Edited September 7 by bambi

[Davino]

1 minute ago, AION said:

Not wanting truth is truth too

No, it's shooting yourself in the foot.

It's self deception. 

[bambi]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I've orgasmed from cunnilingus before but never with a client.

Got it. Lots of men are into rimming too, which is pretty vile if you think about it. Oral in itself is kinda disgusting. I wonder how much porn has contirbuted here

[Javfly33]

39 minutes ago, Emerald said:

There definitely is such a thing as spiritual bypassing. 

And I'm 100% sure that Sadhguru would agree with me on this as he has his tales about Shankaran Pilai that he tells which is all about the foolishness of a spiritual bypasser.

Just keep in mind that moving towards transcendence is VERY different from a resistance to the Earthly.

Remember, that which you resist persists. And you cannot transcend what you have an aversion to.... as you will be like Briar Rabbit fighting with the tar baby.

You start to becoming really tiring. Literally my OP is about that. That I can not transcend therefore I have to get my hands dirty in the 'illusion'.

Not sure what problem you have with me but maybe stop trying to downplay me as like 'I am not a real enlightment seeker'. You are? 

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Just keep in mind that moving towards transcendence is VERY different from a resistance to the Earthly.

Oh, thank you Mr Enlightened Guru!! You are the one that knows. of course.

You are the 'real one' enlighment seeker. The one that does 'medicine journeys' 😂  incredible 

 

Do me a favour and don´t reply more to my posts 💙 Thank you. You are not helping by trying to feel superior to me. I exactly know what you are doing and I see you from 500 miles away. 

Edited September 7 by Javfly33

[Nemra]

6 minutes ago, Davino said:

No, it's shooting yourself in the foot.

It's self deception. 

He meant that if you discover some truth that you can't bear, then that is truth.

[Emerald]

Just now, bambi said:

Yes still hard to follow. But why would you not chose God, and how can you trust that your mind isnt lieing to you?

There is no guarantee that my mind isn't lying to me. In fact, everything that I've every assumed about reality could be totally untrue. Such is the nature of a human being's epistemological blindspot.

We cannot know the objective truth.

No matter how many times I've woken up to my nature as God, I will always be limited and unaware of what I'm unaware of as long as I am Emerald.

In fact, in my last Ayahuasca experience, I kept affirming "I am choosing to be limited" as I was cutting myself off from the infinite knowledge as God was showing me the burdens of the infinite on the shoulders of the finite.

That is what it means to embrace one's humanity. It means accepting the handicaps and limitations of your ability to know and exercising faith, which has always been difficult for me as my issues have always been about lacking trust in what is outside of myself.

As a human being, we can NEVER know anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. And I've tried and tried and spun my wheels in daily constant contemplation since early childhood.

And that's I cannot know what's true and what's illusion whether I'm deciding to seek enlightenment or choosing to surrender to my humanity.

I could always be dead wrong. And I've gone around and around in this contemplating over the years.

But I am choosing to exercise faith in my experiences of God and my experiences in general despite and because of my limitations. And I have decided to trust that my realizations of God are real... and to trust what it has shown me and to use it as a navigational tool.

And along with this, I am choosing to surrender to and trust my own internal compass.

But of course, everything I've ever experienced and known could be and likely is an illusion. But that is not for me to know.

[Emerald]

7 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

You start to becoming really tiring. Literally my OP is about that. That I can not transcend therefore I have to get my hands dirty in the 'illusion'.

Not sure what problem you have with me but maybe stop trying to downplay me as like 'I am not a real enlightment seeker'. You are? 

Oh, thank you Mr Enlightened Guru!! You are the one that knows. of course.

You are the 'real one' enlighment seeker. The one that does 'medicine journeys' 😂  incredible 

Do me a favour and don´t reply more to my posts 💙 Thank you. You are not helping by trying to feel superior to me. I exactly know what you are doing and I see you from 500 miles away. 

I'm not picking on you. I'm just telling you something that might help you as it is something I've seen before.

Perhaps my tone doesn't carry well over the internet.

But if you don't want me to reply anymore, that is okay.

[Davino]

17 minutes ago, Nemra said:

He meant that if you discover some truth that you can't bear, then that is truth.

Then you don't love Truth 

You love the truth that you can bear 

Edited September 7 by Davino

[Leo Gura]

40 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Do you really want truth?

I am Truth.

[Emerald]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I am Truth.

As are all those savages you mentioned before, that don't want Truth.

What makes you different?

[theleelajoker]

This discussion has taken a strange turn IMO - towards sex, enlightenment, truth, etc. Which is not "good" or "bad" itself, but a) it seems to turn in circles b) does not seem constructive for me

• Re the OP - if you see women as distraction, so it be. For me, it's quite the opposite - there is nobody who supports me more in my development than my current partner.
• Can women be a distraction? Yeah, but my toaster can be one, too. It's me, and not the toaster's fault. How you do things (e.g. dating)  > what you do
• Yeah, maybe be ego is tricking me etc etc - but maybe not. I take my chances
• @Emerald In my perspective, you make some very good points and for me it's easy to follow your arguments. Appreciate your perspective and I can't understand the reactions of some people here

Edited September 7 by theleelajoker

[Emerald]

1 minute ago, theleelajoker said:

@Emerald In my perspective, you make some very good points and for me it's easy to follow your arguments. Appreciate your perspective and I can't understand the reactions of some people here

Thank you.

I think it's just that the OP's pain is associated with concerns that women may enjoy dominating men and embarrassing them, as he has written about it on other posts.

And because I am speaking over the internet, this doesn't give him a chance to read my actual facial expressions. And he might imagine me as a wicked witch trying to antagonize him for my own sadistic pleasure, when in reality, this is just how I show up in this context.

I come here to share my perspective with others who value these types of perspectives, and I do like to challenge others a bit as well because the environment is very conducive to intellectual sparring.

I think I just accidentally pushed a trigger button with my directness.

[Forestluv]

59 minutes ago, Emerald said:

my medicine journeys

Were these in recent years? There seems to be an evolution relative to your posts a couple years ago.

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, Emerald said:

As are all those savages you mentioned before, that don't want Truth.

What makes you different?

The only difference is I know it

[Emerald]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

The only difference is I know it

I'm suspicious of this answer. 

[Emerald]

5 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Were these in recent years? There seems to be an evolution relative to your posts a couple years ago.

I've had one journey per year since 2020. So, 5 journeys in the past few years... and 2 journeys at age 20.

[LambdaDelta]

2 hours ago, Davino said:

If it works for you and is sustainable over time

Quite well so far. Guess I'm like that monk Leo mentioned