Women are my only and only distraction from Enlightment

[bambi]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, but some of the times it's because of something the feel lacking while women are going more off of the physical body response. Most men won't feel the need to do all that if they have a wife or gf but women will still do these masturbating acts regardless and not because they don't have a man.

No just according to pretty much every study men simply are more pursuant of sex in general, on both pyschological and physiological level

Edited September 7 by bambi

[Emerald]

11 minutes ago, bambi said:

Can you summarise this in laymans terms, I simply cant follow anything you have written

I'll try to make this clearer... but I am explaining something ineffable, so it's difficult for me to simplify it.

In a nutshell, in my Ayahuasca experiences each one has come with a realization that myself as Emerald and God are like two sides of the same coin.

In one of them, I experience a total ego dissolution and there was no Emerald and just God.

And in the others, Emerald remained intact but my awareness expanded to see the connection to God.

Almost like if a twig on a tree expanded its scope of awareness to realize that it is also the tree itself, when before the scope of its consciousness was too narrow to sense that it was part of a bigger tree.

That is what happened in these experiences where my human consciousness expanded until I realized the connection with God's consciousness... and that there was no separation between the two.

And there have been many conversations in my medicine journeys that I had with God as both the twig and the entire tree including the twig at once.

And in these interactions between myself as Emerald and myself as the infinite, it has shown be a lot about the life it/I have chosen and why it/I have chosen to live this particular life... and why enlightenment isn't part of this lifetime.

And in my ego dissolution experience, there was no Emerald. Emerald was just a story in a character that was a total illusion and never actually existed. There was just pure consciousness. And this was enlightenment and death, which were one and the same. And I could have chosen that.

But I decided that I wanted to live the finite experience. And I have chosen the finite over the infinite by choosing to handicap myself to get away from infinite knowledge and infinite love. And it is in these limitations that meaning and beauty are born.

This is the path of contraction, where you fully embrace the Earthly forms and live the finite experience of life.

It is the opposite of enlightenment which is the path of expansion, and is about transcendence of the illusion of the Earthly forms and is death itself.

And the latter was shown to me to be a very difficult path that is only sought out by a small number of people (like monks) who incarnated here just to go through the difficult "game" of transcending it. 

God showed me this to create an understanding of the contrast between my life's path and a monk's life path... where mine is more about receiving the gift of the illusion rather than transcending it.

It's sort of like playing the video game... instead of deconstructing the console and exploring the code.

I hope this is somewhat understandable, but I recognize it may not be because it is describing elements of the ineffable.

[Princess Arabia]

The number one thing that men crave is to go down on a woman. Except in the black community, they just want the real deal but for white men, it's the #1 along with bj's. 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, bambi said:

No just according to pretty much every study men simply are more pursuant of sex in general,

I never denied that but did they state why. 

[bambi]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

The number one thing that men crave is to go down on a woman. Except in the black community, they just want the real deal but for white men, it's the #1 along with bj's. 

LOL where da fuck are you pulling this from??! Cite ur sources pls

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I'll try to make this clearer... but I am explaining something ineffable, so it's difficult for me to simplify it.

In a nutshell, in my Ayahuasca experiences each one has come with a realization that myself as Emerald and God are like two sides of the same coin.

In one of them, I experience a total ego dissolution and there was no Emerald and just God.

And in the others, Emerald remained intact but my awareness expanded to see the connection to God.

Almost like if a twig on a tree expanded its scope of awareness to realize that it is also the tree itself, when before the scope of its consciousness was too narrow to sense that it was part of a bigger tree.

That is what happened in these experiences where my human consciousness expanded until I realized the connection with God's consciousness... and that there was no separation between the two.

And there have been many conversations in my medicine journeys that I had with God as both the twig and the entire tree including the twig at once.

And in these interactions between myself as Emerald and myself as the infinite, it has shown be a lot about the life it/I have chosen and why it/I have chosen to live this particular life... and why enlightenment isn't part of this lifetime.

And in my ego dissolution experience, there was no Emerald. Emerald was just a story in a character that was a total illusion and never actually existed. There was just pure consciousness. And this was enlightenment and death, which were one and the same. And I could have chosen that.

But I decided that I wanted to live the finite experience. And I have chosen the finite over the infinite by choosing to handicap myself to get away from infinite knowledge and infinite love. And it is in these limitations that meaning and beauty are born.

This is the path of contraction, where you fully embrace the Earthly forms and live the finite experience of life.

It is the opposite of enlightenment which is the path of expansion, and is about transcendence of the illusion of the Earthly forms and is death itself.

And the latter was shown to me to be a very difficult path that is only sought out by a small number of people (like monks) who incarnated here just to go through the difficult "game" of transcending it. 

God showed me this to create an understanding of the contrast between my life's path and a monk's life path... where mine is more about receiving the gift of the illusion rather than transcending it.

It's sort of like playing the video game... instead of deconstructing the console and exploring the code.

I hope this is somewhat understandable, but I recognize it may not be because it is describing elements of the ineffable.

So you are saying

1) Enlightenment for you is a complete denial of worldy life and even your humanity?

2) Enlightnement is a death of some sort (this was non specified)

3) That you dont want enlightenment in this life time

4) You want some other unspecified life as Emerald

Is this correct?

[Emerald]

35 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Emerald Ive said it million times, there is no such a thing as spiritual bypassing. Spirituality or Yoga path i started 2 years ago from sadhguru inner engineering path was very clear: Becoming the master of your mind and body/energies to be able to consciously conduce it wherever you want it.

Is not bypassing anything. Is only that if your mind or energies produce certain compulsive, cyclical, traumatic patters, you start a Path that is about Awakening the Intelligence/God within you so it can break free of this identification.

Breaking free of this identification has very practical terms, from dating/relationship to money, career or even creativity.

Inner engineering path was designed about improving and raising your quality of life in all levels, it is not designed at all as an evasion. 

I probably have converted it to an evasion though, thats another story, thats on me. 

But you are right, i personally do not want it for truth's sakes because if not i would not have problem surrendering all desires. Clearly jeevan mukti is not happening to me in this life. Ideally it will happen at moment of death.

There definitely is such a thing as spiritual bypassing. 

And I'm 100% sure that Sadhguru would agree with me on this as he has his tales about Shankaran Pilai that he tells which is all about the foolishness of a spiritual bypasser.

Just keep in mind that moving towards transcendence is VERY different from a resistance to the Earthly.

Remember, that which you resist persists. And you cannot transcend what you have an aversion to.... as you will be like Briar Rabbit fighting with the tar baby.

[bambi]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I never denied that but did they state why. 

Well even hormonal or endocrinal would be cause enough

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, bambi said:

LOL where da fuck are you pulling this from??! Cite ur sources pls

Why do you oppose everything i say. I didn't say the #1 thing Bambi likes. Are you the one being with men. And why do you have to respond to me in such a disrespectable manner, a simple "how did you come up with this information would suffice". If you don't see how this is starting to look personal, I don't know what else will. 

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Why do you oppose everything i say. I didn't say the #1 thing Bambi likes. Are you the one being with men. And why do you have to respond to me in such a disrespectable manner, a simple "how did you come up with this information would suffice". If you don't see how this is starting to look personal, I don't know what else will. 

Sorry, where did you find this information from and what rationale are you using it to generalize in the manner you are? It seems like highly biased, anecdotel observations shared as some normalisation of male sexual preferences. How to take this seriously?

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Emerald said:

It's pretty evident to me that most people don't actually want enlightenment.

Oh sure.

Wanting Truth in one in ten million.

It astounds me how little people care about truth. Savages.

Edited September 7 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, bambi said:

Sorry, where did you find this information from and what rationale are you using it to generalize in the manner you are? It seems like highly biased, anecdotel observations shared as some normalisation of male sexual preferences. How to take this seriously?

Of course, it's coming from personal experience and I didn't do a survey in India or China or Russia but it is the number one thing that i've seen that that Caucasian men love to do. So much so that I have to give them a ridiculous price sometimes because it's not something I engage in on the regular. It's so common that some even automatically assume it's OK to just start doing without permission. I have turned down numerous request for this so much so that I'm convinced it's the number # act of enjoyment for them to perform on a woman and the equivalent for women to do to them.

[Davino]

31 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

Heh, nope, no such thing for me, though I'm very glad it's working out for you, sounds lovely. I generate the love required within myself, skipping the middleman so to speak. There's tradeoffs either way

If it works for you and is sustainable over time

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Of course, it's coming from personal experience and I didn't do a survey in India or China or Russia but it is the number one thing that i've seen that that Caucasian men love to do. So much so that I have to give them a ridiculous price sometimes because it's not something I engage in on the regular. It's so common that some even automatically assume it's OK to just start doing without permission. I have turned down numerous request for this so much so that I'm convinced it's the number # act of enjoyment for them to perform on a woman and the equivalent for women to do to them.

Do you orgasm when they do it?

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, bambi said:

Do you orgasm when they do it?

It is the number one request, didn't say it's what I engage in. I won't deny that i've done it, but it's usually with someone i see on the regular and is not something I do often but only if it's something a personal lover and i both engage in on a personal level. That is considered a personal act and I'm not in the business of doing acts that aren't that protective.

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

It is the number one request, didn't say it's what I engage in. I won't deny that i've done it, but it's usually with someone i see on the regular and is not something I do often but only if it's something a personal lover and i both engage in on a personal level. That is considered a personal act and I'm not in the business of doing acts that aren't that protective.

Got it, can you answer my question now please

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, bambi said:

Got it, can you answer my question now please

I've orgasmed from cunnilingus before but never with a client.

[Emerald]

7 minutes ago, bambi said:

So you are saying

1) Enlightenment for you is a complete denial of worldy life and even your humanity?

2) Enlightnement is a death of some sort (this was non specified)

3) That you dont want enlightenment in this life time

4) You want some other unspecified life as Emerald

Is this correct?

First off, much of this will sound way out there... because these are what my medicine journeys have shown me. And I have adopted many of these insights into how I approach my life, as they have helped me get on track with what I really want to experience.

I just wanted to preface it before I answer.

1. Enlightenment isn't a denial as there is no one there to deny anything. It is simply a total dispossession of the illusion of the story that you are currently living to the point were there is nothing but pure consciousness. It is where reality (including yourself) blows away like dust in the wind and empty consciousness itself remains. But human attachments can be an impediment to a human being relinquishing the illusion of life and reality. This is why it can be more difficult to wake up as a householder because there is more to be attached to.

2. Yes, ego dissolution is death itself, just not death from a bodily perspective. It's a death from the perspective of consciousness. The way I would describe it is that it's like a drop of water getting sublimated into the ocean... only that ocean is pure nothingness and pure consciousness.

3. Yes, that's correct. I was shown in my medicine journey that the reason why God decided to split off an element of its consciousness to incarnate into the illusory finite form Emerald is because this element of its consciousness did not want to be open and accepting of infinite suffering. And to be reintegrated with God, there must be a total willingness to create, know, experience, and love all things in existence... including all suffering. And it was too much for this point of God's consciousness, so out of mercy to itself, God cut away this part of itself and incarnated it into a finite form where there is a finite amount of suffering to experience. And it was through the contraction and limitation that there was mercy.

4. Yes, it showed me that Emerald was the illusion/story that was woven for this purpose. And the preference at this point, seems to be to live infinite lifetimes as this character in order to avoid the awareness of infinite suffering and infinite knowledge. It also in other journeys showed me many permutations of Emerald lives, as this is where God's suffering part goes to get a vacation from the infinite. And it even reassured me in my last journey that I took that I could choose to live as many lives as Emerald as I wanted to. And it has shown me how valuable the function of my life is as it is only in the finite and imperfection that consciousness can experience meaning and beauty. And it showed me that, if I have a choice between being God and being Emerald, that it is wiser for me to handicap myself into smallness and limitation and choose Emerald.

[Emerald]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Oh sure.

Wanting Truth in one in ten million.

It astounds me how little people care about truth. Savages.

Do you really want truth?

[AION]

Not wanting truth is truth too