Russian propaganda is on the rise.

[Joshe]

7 hours ago, Consept said:

Would you guys say the right are more likely to grift? Like would prominent figures on the left sell out to promote Russian propaganda?

Does a bear shit in the woods? 😂

[Joshe]

8 hours ago, Nemra said:

Putin is the trap master!

I was once reading "Love is Letting Go of Fear" (1979 bestseller) and the author said this:

Isn't that interesting? 

Edited September 6 by Joshe

[PurpleTree]

8 hours ago, Nemra said:

Putin is the trap master!

seems that he’s destroying russia in the long run though

like hitler germany and so on

[Nemra]

5 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Isn't that interesting? 

🤣, of course!

[Nemra]

20 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

It seems that he’s destroying Russia in the long run though.

I'm not sure of that, but Russia still has its tentacles in post Soviet countries, which can be bad for them.

Edited September 6 by Nemra

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

I'm not sure of that, but Russia still has its tentacles in past Soviet countries, which can be bad for them. Alot of people who are sick of Russia, have been treated badly, or just love western conservatism from their own country really love to see Russia destroyed, which they use to justify their spread of misinformation about Russia.

there is no real freedom and creativity in russia, brain drain, birth rate, russia is doomed

 

 

on another note i wonder if tucker, dore, candace etc will also get snatched 

 

 

[Nemra]

16 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

there is no real freedom and creativity in russia, brain drain, birth rate, russia is doomed

I don't deny Russia's problems. Not the best place to live for people like us.

[Emerald]

8 hours ago, Consept said:

Would you guys say the right are more likely to grift? Like would prominent figures on the left sell out to promote Russian propaganda?

Because the things that online lefties tend to advocate for tend to be about giving more power to the little guy, there are no big money interests that want to put money into them as this is the very thing that threatens their interests. The last thing they want is a populace of peasants working in solidarity.

Lefties only get money from powerful interests if they transition to the right and act as the token "Why I left the left" person.... like Dave Rubin types.

So, it's not like lefties are just more principled or something like that. I'm sure there are plenty of online lefties who would accept money from shady places and sell out at a moment's notice.

It's just that powerful interests don't benefit from financing them.

Also, the audiences of lefty thought leaders tend to be purists with their values and usually prioritize their values over their allegiance to the thought leader.

One thing I like about the left is that they're generally not very sycophantic and are 100% willing to throw Bernie Sanders (for instance) into the proverbial wood chipper the second that he falters from integrity with the values he purports. 

Now, one exception to lefties not being the recipient of money from powerful groups... could be like with authoritarian lefties and tankies online. Because they are authoritarian left instead of libertarian left, they could get funding from large Communist governments that would benefit from people believing in authoritarian left positions.

[Leo Gura]

Good analysis from Vlad:

 

[PurpleTree]

23 hours ago, What Am I said:

This one would definitely be on the right.

 

Ok yea kind of deflecting and so on, saying it’s not proven etc

imagine if the tables were turned this guy, candace, tucker etc would have a field day calling them traitors and now it’s…. crickets

but i guess that’s what tribalism does

[Hatfort]

A few right-winger commentators caught being paid by Russia, Tim Pool and Dave Ruvin, among others. I think the law says they have to register as foreign agents, or something like that.

That's what Scott Ritter says, whose home has been raided by the FBI and all his documents and electronic devices taken. In his case, he categorically denies the accusations of being paid by the Russian government in any way, he presents himself as an American patriot, but not antagonistic to Russia, and favorable to its position in the Ukrainian war. He cooperated with the FBI, he says they will find nothing incriminating, and I think he is being truthful about it.

[Leo Gura]

@Hatfort The point is not that these jackasses did something illegal but that they are corrupt shameless grifters who defecate in the information ecosystem for profit.

Edited September 7 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

Israel lobby money literally holds the US government as their hostage lol. 

While Russian govt does it for 0.001% of that, now it's propaganda manipulation etc. It's okay for the Russian govt to pay you to speak the Truth. 

Russian government can pay you to report the things happening in Russia. That's compensation for your work. 

[Leo Gura]

@Bobby_2021 Pretty sure US has sanctions for doing business with Russia. Especially for political propaganda.

[Bobby_2021]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Bobby_2021 Pretty sure US has sanctions for doing business with Russia. Especially for political propaganda.

Sanctions & foreign agent registration are matters concerning the law. US citizens have to abide by the law of the land. No doubt about it.

What's law? It's just an opinion with a gun to your head.

I am talking about the moral outrage about this as if Russia is some bogeyman which later contributes only to racist views against everyday Russians.

But you were not talking about law aren't you? 

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The point is not that these jackasses did something illegal

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Edited September 8 by Bobby_2021

[PurpleTree]

 

„tim pool sets the record straight“

lame

[Bobby_2021]

Propaganda is only matter of perspective of the beholder.

When allies do it, it's progressivism.

When adversaries do it, it becomes propaganda.

My whole point is that we all need to stop viewing Russia as a bad actor and normalise relations with them for the sake of not getting nuked. 

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

which later contributes only to racist views against everyday Russians.

Racist views?

These guys were literally caught being useful idiots for a corrupt autocrat.

Obviously Israeli propaganda is bad too, and if they caught some journalist recieving $400k/mo from Israel to publish propaganda we would call that out too.

These right-wing jackasses complain about Hunter Biden yet they earned more than Hunter Biden from this corrupt deal. They are totally shameless.

Edited September 8 by Leo Gura

[zurew]

https://x.com/BoxLoner/status/1832473253933101112

[zurew]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

These right-wing jackasses complain about Hunter Biden yet they earned more than Hunter Biden from this corrupt deal. They are totally shameless.

Actually as Destiny said: When a conservative accuse you of doing something, that is basically a confession from them that they did it or doing it. In short, every accusation is a confession.

and they and their followers call themselves patriots. 

Lmao

Edited September 8 by zurew