Russian propaganda is on the rise.

[Leo Gura]

In a sense Russia did us a favor. This turned out to be a honeypot for right-wing grifters. Now they've been exposed.

It's like those classic To Catch A Predator traps. And Tim Pool and Dave Rubin walk in holding a box of condoms. 

Edited September 8 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

journalist recieving $400k/mo from Israel to publish propaganda we would call that out too.

They receive far more than that and you wouldn't know about it in 50 years. That's the point.

The US govt can choose to decide what information you are exposed to. 

@Leo Gura It's not bad to normalise relations with Russia. These idiots are indeed pretty useful in that they were pretty sympathetic to Russia, opposing the cancerous expansion of the US in favour of isolationism.

The right is for isolationism regardless whether they got paid for it.

This is the Truth. I wish I got paid for telling it. 

It's because the right is right in this case. Yes sometimes it happens. 

[Bobby_2021]

How about you call out the useful idiots for the military industrial complex? 

[Buck Edwards]

1 minute ago, Bobby_2021 said:

They receive far more than that and you wouldn't know about it in 50 years. That's the point.

The US govt can choose to decide what information you are exposed to. 

@Leo Gura It's not bad to normalise relations with Russia. These idiots are indeed pretty useful in that they were pretty sympathetic to Russia, opposing the cancerous expansion of the US in favour of isolationism.

The right is for isolationism regardless whether they got paid for it.

This is the Truth. I wish I got paid for telling it. 

It's because the right is right in this case. Yes sometimes it happens. 

Russia is a known enemy of the US. I don't think it would help to keep friendly relations with Russia. 

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Bobby_2021 said:

How about you call out the useful idiots for the military industrial complex? 

There is absolutely no military industrial complex. It's a huge conspiracy. 

 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Bobby_2021 said:

How about you call out the useful idiots for the military industrial complex? 

Which indie journalist or pundit is taking money from the military industrial complex?

[Staples]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

We have reached peak internet brain rot.

It's only the peak so far.

[Bobby_2021]

@zurew The most patriotic things you can do is to call out your own government for their bullshit. 

Patriotism is love for the country, not for the government. 

When your government is involved in a cancerous expansionist policy you should rightly call them out.

Which is what these right wing influencers did. Russian govt incentivised it.

You guys are just being like Russian govt who arrests American journalists or even Russians for being mildly sympathetic to the west. They are not anti nationals. They criticise the govt not the country.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

You guys are just being like Russian govt who arrests American journalists or even Russians for being mildly sympathetic to the west. They are not anti nationals. They criticise the govt not the country.

This is such a false equivalence.

No one is calling for Tim Pool's arrest or even a ban. And he was free to criticize US foriegn policy all he wants. The issue is that he was taking money to make propaganda for a foreign adversary. This is basically traitorous activity. If a left-winger was caught doing this they would be called traitors by the right.

Edited September 8 by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

Dave Rubin finally exposed. And now they're victims. 

[Bobby_2021]

9 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Russia is a known enemy of the US. I don't think it would help to keep friendly relations with Russia. 

USSR was a far bigger enemy of the US. And yet proper communications were in place during the height of the cuban missile crisis in 1962 which played a pivotal role in averting the crisis.

Now the US govt is once again engaged in a direct conflict with the biggest nuclear armed nation in the world with significant backing from China, Iran and North Korea, the new axis powers.

Telling the US govt to back off and exercise restraint is the sane move here.

Yes they are grifters. Yes they are idiots. But a broken clock is right two times a day. You have to come to terms with the right being right atleast one time. 

If they violate the law, then they should face the consequences. But it's an organic movement. If you arrest them, then the movement will only grow stronger because the Truth is on their side. 

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Bobby_2021 said:

USSR was a far bigger enemy of the US. And yet proper communications were in place during the height of the cuban missile crisis in 1962 which played a pivotal role in averting the crisis.

Now the US govt is once again engaged in a direct conflict with the biggest nuclear armed nation in the world with significant backing from China, Iran and North Korea, the new axis powers.

Telling the US govt to back off and exercise restraint is the sane move here.

Yes they are grifters. Yes they are idiots. But a broken clock is right two times a day. You have to come to terms with the right being right atleast one time. 

If they violate the law, then they should face the consequences. But it's an organic movement. If you arrest them, then the movement will only grow stronger because the Truth is on their side. 

One cannot be friends with the enemy of Truth. It's not wise. 

[zurew]

24 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

@zurew The most patriotic things you can do is to call out your own government for their bullshit.

None of that happened by these influencers.

What I am talking about has little to do with Russia and more to do with grifter influencers, who pretend to be patriots.

It just happend to be the case that Russia paid these and now you are all up and arms because you want to defend Russia.

 

This is the kind of grifting I am talking about:

https://x.com/xgigglypuff/status/1831709850226536801

He is obviously reading a script that he doesn't fully believe in and he is so fake and dramatic about it lmao.

 

Edited September 8 by zurew

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, zurew said:

This is the kind of grifting I am talking about:

https://x.com/xgigglypuff/status/1831709850226536801

Kaaa-ching!

$100,000.

[Bobby_2021]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Which indie journalist or pundit is taking money from the military industrial complex?

Lockheed Martin and Raytheon will pay the WEF who will pay Johnny harris for making propaganda against Russia.

Poootin baaad.

He is useful idiot for the defence(offence) industrial complex.

 

 

Edited September 8 by Bobby_2021

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Poootin baaad.

He ain't so good though. He runs a mafia state. And it was Putin's choice to launch an invasion. Without that choice Raytheon would not have much new business. So by your logic Putin is lining the pockets of Raytheon.

You are acting as though Biden ordered the invasion. This ain't Iraq 2.0

Edited September 8 by Leo Gura

[Hatfort]

It's always right-wingers getting paid though, via corporations or foreign powerful countries. If you are a leftist commentator or content creator, you've better have a Patreon or some audience to sustain yourself. It sucks to be a leftist.

Putin was in relation with many ultra-right political movements in Europe, at least before the war. Some stabbed him in the back when the war started, even calling him Communist, resurfacing the Red Scare of the USSR era, crazy but true, that's the level of politics in Spain at least. It was harmful for them in their country's public eye to support Putin, so they turned their back on him. In a sense, that's what he deserves, if you have relations with shitty groups, that's what you get.

I'm not pro-Putin, but this war could have been avoided via diplomacy, NATO keeps getting Ukraine deeper and deeper into the hole. Biden had a decent domestic policy, and internationally he started well by ending the forever war in Afghanistan, Trump has a big mouth, but he did nothing about that. In Palestine and Ukraine, Biden has been awful. Both wars come from before his term, but they exploded in his time, and the money and weapons for both come from him, so what's happening is on him, stupid old man. If Kamala wins, we can't be sure what she will do. I think there are chances she has a more diplomatic and less warmongering approach. I hope she doesn't fall into the need to overcompensate the accusations of being weak for being a woman by trying to be tough or some shit like that. They will tell that about her anyway. There's nothing she can do about Ukraine now, that war is lost. Israel is not in a good place either, Hamas can't be defeated, Palestinian survivors will be willing to fight their murderers back, like it's normal and any other group of people would do, and Israel's economy is in the mud now. At this point, they'd better ask to be annexed to the US, which the facto are, but that would mean they would have to accept all their citizens are equal under the constitution, so on second thought, they won't want that. I'm rumbling.

[Leo Gura]

@Hatfort Russia Today did employ left-wingers back before it was banned.

[Hatfort]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hatfort Russia Today did employ left-wingers back before it was banned.

Okay, but that's different from receiving money for your own YouTube channel from the Russian government itself, the law says you have to register as a foreign agent at least. Russia Today may not be that different from NYT or Washington Post, journalists work and get diffusion where they can or are allowed to. Could they have more integrity and create their own little platform and try? Many do, now it's possible thanks to YouTube and similars mostly, but the traditional mediums are still alive and have a weight.

I'm curious to know. What are some examples of US leftists working for RT?

[PurpleTree]

5 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Propaganda is only matter of perspective of the beholder.

When allies do it, it's progressivism.

When adversaries do it, it becomes propaganda.

My whole point is that we all need to stop viewing Russia as a bad actor and normalise relations with them for the sake of not getting nuked. 

hihi ^ captured by russian propagander

you probably use the term russophobia too