Does God Exist?

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

Proof is a subset of Truth

This was proven my mathematician and logist Kurt Godel

Proof is a subset of Reality

There are immense problems with proving things, you take the whole notiong of "tangible proof" for granted. Contemplate what proof actually is, this is multiple year contemplation question.

How can I proof to you that Reality exists?

Well it obviously does, this is it, now I can play with it and make petty proofs

Great, now demonstrate that we all originate from the same source.

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare They are eternal God has everything store as information in a simulation you are just looking at information. physical reality is a hologram

Edited September 3 by Hojo

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare They are eternal God has everything store as information in a simulation you are just looking at information

You must provide evidence that it is eternal.

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare I only had to provide it to myself its up to you to seek through fear

[Davino]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It is not limiting, as God possesses the power to do as it wishes and can manifest as formlessness. However, you assume that God must be unlimited, which is not necessarily true; God could have existed in a specific form, and that form may always endure. You must provide an explanation of why forms are destined to perish and cannot be eternal.

Lmao, give me proof of a form that stays forever the same. It's not only impossible in practice but also in theory.

You are unaware of universal mechanics. There are very intelligent self imposing limitations of Reality and God, that you cannot bend at will. This must be so because God is stepping inside itself at every moment, so whatever it holds on goes for infinite chains and it must return to itself at some point. This is not an error, but a core feature of existence.

The Real form is Formlessness. Formelessness and form are identical and are distinctions that cocreate each other.

If God was only a form, what happens with the rest of possible forms? They are not God?

Now you create God and no God, which is a distinction, division, duality. Forgetting my first point made in this conversation:

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Once one is Infinitely conscious one sees, that Reality is One and Infinite, therefore all things are distinctions within God's Mind.

 

Have you seen this video? It addresses all your doubts

Maybe check it out and we can continue the conversation in deeper ways. You need to work on your metaphysics and epistemology.

[Davino]

8 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Great, now demonstrate that we all originate from the same source.

What source?

It's a fantasy in your mind

You have this moment. What is this Reality that you are experiencing?

If you become more conscious you may recognise that your body, egoic mind, world and phenomena is consciousness. This means you are conscious of your body, the sensations, the screen led. your breathing, the room, the space, everything is inside your own Consciousness.

This Consciousness is what you are asking for and it's always already right in front of your eyes

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Davino said:

What source?

It's a fantasy in your mind

You have this moment. What is this Reality that you are experiencing?

If you become more conscious you may recognise that your body, egoic mind, world and phenomena is consciousness. This means you are conscious of your body, the sensations, the screen led. your breathing, the room, the space, everything is inside your own Consciousness.

This Consciousness is what you are asking for and it's always already right in front of your eyes

Certainly, it is consciousness, but how does this connect to the concept of God?

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare When a scientist says your imagination is part of the subconscious you see that they are adding onto something with seemingly no limitation or explanation. Can you demonstrate how subconscious human mind limits imagination verses imagination being a limitation of subconscious human mind?

Edited September 3 by Hojo

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 minutes ago, Davino said:

Lmao, give me proof of a form that stays forever the same. It's not only impossible in practice but also in theory.

You are unaware of universal mechanics. There are very intelligent self imposing limitations of Reality and God, that you cannot bend at will. This must be so because God is stepping inside itself at every moment, so whatever it holds on goes for infinite chains and it must return to itself at some point. This is not an error, but a core feature of existence.

The Real form is Formlessness. Formelessness and form are identical and are distinctions that cocreate each other.

If God was only a form, what happens with the rest of possible forms? They are not God?

Now you create God and no God, which is a distinction, division, duality. Forgetting my first point made in this conversation:

 

Have you seen this video? It addresses all your doubts

Maybe check it out and we can continue the conversation in deeper ways. You need to work on your metaphysics and epistemology.

However, this is the crux of the matter: you need to stop asserting that your perspective is the ultimate truth, leading to the conclusion that everything must be God. I require evidence that isolation is impossible, as you have provided no substantiation for your claims!

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare When a scientist says your imagination is part of the subconscious you see that they are adding onto something with seemingly no limitation or explanation. Can you demonstrate the word subconscious human mind dosent limit imagination verses imagination being a limitation of subconscious human mind?

Indeed, it certainly does, but it does not lead us to the concept of God.

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare God is imagination being limited by the term subconscious human mind.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare God is imagination being limited by the term subconscious human mind.

Prove that.

[Davino]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Certainly, it is consciousness, but how does this connect to the concept of God?

Nice, now we are talking

So consciousness is actually God. You still haven't recognised yourself in the mirror. It's fine, we are all in this infinite self-discovery process.

So Consciousness has Infinite possibile states, let's say water just has three states, so consciousness can be conscious of Infinitely different things by making distinctions within itself. Look where you are at and see that consciousness is distinguishing itself in particular forms and sensations while being an Infinite 360 Field. So while Consciousness has infinite states, only a subset of states are aware of what Consciousness is, aka God.

So your work is to arrive at those states which will grant a self recognition. Meaning what is needed is for God to manifest in its godly form.

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare Prove you exist

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Davino said:

Nice, now we are talking

So consciousness is actually God. You still haven't recognised yourself in the mirror. It's fine, we are all in this infinite self-discovery process.

So Consciousness has Infinite possibile states, let's say water just has three states, so consciousness can be conscious of Infinitely different things by making distinctions within itself. Look where you are at and see that consciousness is distinguishing itself in particular forms and sensations while being an Infinite 360 Field. So while Consciousness has infinite states, only a subset of states are aware of what Consciousness is, aka God.

So your work is to arrive at those states which will grant a self recognition. Meaning what is needed is for God to manifest in its godly form.

How can you assert that consciousness possesses infinite states?

[Davino]

8 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

However, this is the crux of the matter: you need to stop asserting that your perspective is the ultimate truth, leading to the conclusion that everything must be God.

The crux of the matter is that you're unwilling to do the work it takes to realize God or Infinite Consciousness.

Or are you?

I cannot lift weigths for you boy

But you wanna me to prove them to you and somehow give them to you. It doesn't work like that sorry. I don't make the rules. I had to work insanely to arrive to this Awakenings.

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I require evidence that isolation is impossible, as you have provided no substantiation for your claims!

The Infinity video by Leo provides excellent evidence of this. It's called the Infinite Sandbox analogy

Edited September 3 by Davino

[Princess Arabia]

@Spiritual WarfareLiving up to your name, i see. Nice. I like. Question everything, even the origin of your questioning. 

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare Prove you exist

This is not what the topic is about 

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare Are you asking me to prove that your own point of view exists? I cannot do that

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

The crux of the matter is that you're unwilling to do the work it takes to realize God or Infinite Consciousness.

Or are you?

I cannot lift weigths for you boy

But you wanna me to prove them to you and somehow give them to you. It doesn't work like that sorry. I don't make the rules. I had to work insanely to arrive to this Awakenings.

I appreciate your honesty; thank you for your thoughtful responses.