The rise of fake people: The era of chaos

[integral]

### The Rise of Fake People: Entering the Era of Chaos

Imagine waking up in a world where you can’t tell what’s real from what’s fake. Picture this: you get a call from your mother. Her voice is warm and familiar as she asks about your day. But what if, in this world, you could never be sure if it was really her? Maybe it’s just a super-smart AI, perfectly imitating her voice, her laugh, even the way she talks about the weather. You’d never know, and that’s the scary part. This is a future where fake people outnumber real ones ten to one. You could be talking to someone online who seems just like any other person, but in reality, they’re a sophisticated program designed to blend in. In this era of chaos, every interaction becomes a guessing game.

The chaos doesn't stop with people. Think about the news. Today, we scroll through headlines and stories, trusting what we see. But in this future, fake news would be everywhere, looking just as real as the truth. Imagine reading about a major event—a new discovery, a political scandal, or a celebrity's dramatic incident. It’s all over the internet, on every site, shared by everyone. But what if it’s completely fabricated, created by AI to look and feel like real news? For every true story you find, there are ten fake ones. Sorting out what’s real from what’s not would be almost impossible.

Imagine logging into your favorite social media site. You see a post from a friend, talking about an amazing vacation they’re on, complete with photos. The comments are full of friends asking questions, giving likes. But what if that friend doesn’t exist? The vacation, the photos, the entire profile could be generated by AI. In a world full of fake people, you’d never be sure who’s real. Even video calls, once a way to feel connected, could be faked with AI-generated faces that look exactly like your loved ones.

Now, think about how this affects trust. Trust is what holds relationships together. If you couldn’t trust that the person you’re talking to is real, how would that change things? You’d be on edge, doubting every interaction. Relationships would become shallow because the deep trust needed for real connection would be gone. Every call, every message, every face you see could be fake.

But it gets even more personal. Imagine AI learning everything about you from your digital footprint—every post, message, photo, and like. Now picture thousands of versions of you existing online. Each one knows your habits, your style, your interests. They talk like you, act like you, even think like you. People interact with these digital clones, believing they’re talking to the real you, but you have no control over what these versions say or do. You’re one voice among a thousand echoes, lost in the digital noise. In this world, no one, not even you, can tell which is the real you and which are the copies. Your identity is no longer yours alone; it's a shared, distorted echo that exists everywhere and nowhere.

This idea of digital clones can go even further. What if these versions of you, created by AI, start applying for jobs, using your name, your credentials, even your face? Employers might think they’re hiring the real you, but it’s just a digital replica. What happens when these clones start interacting with your friends and family, making plans, sending messages, living a life parallel to yours but completely out of your control? The clones could make decisions, form opinions, and take actions that affect the real world, all while you remain unaware. Your reputation, your relationships, your entire life could be influenced by these rogue versions of you. 

And what about the future of AI-enhanced reality? Imagine putting on augmented reality glasses and seeing a world that’s not quite real. You walk down a street, and every advertisement, every storefront, every face you see could be altered by AI. It could tailor what you see based on your preferences, showing you a version of reality that’s uniquely yours but completely fabricated. The world outside your window could become a personalized illusion, tailored to your likes, dislikes, and biases, creating a bubble that distorts your perception of reality.

This extends beyond personal life into society as a whole. Imagine the chaos in politics. Election campaigns could be flooded with fake endorsements, fake scandals, fake rallies. Videos of politicians saying things they never said, or doing things they never did, could sway public opinion. People wouldn’t know what to believe. How could you make a good decision about who to vote for if you couldn’t tell which news was real? Democracy depends on informed citizens, but in a world overrun with fakes, manipulation would become easy, and chaos would reign.

To survive in this chaotic future, we need to be more vigilant than ever. We’d need new tools and skills to detect what’s real and what’s not, to hold onto the truth even when it’s hidden. If we don’t, we risk living in a world where everything is uncertain, where reality slips away, and we’re left in a sea of confusion, never sure of who or what to trust.

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### Bullet Point Summary

- **Fake Interactions**: In a future full of AI, you could get a call from your mother, hear her voice, and have no idea it’s not actually her, but an AI perfectly imitating her.

- **Fake News Overload**: The news could be filled with fake stories that look just as real as true ones, making it nearly impossible to know what’s actually happening in the world.

- **Social Media Deception**: You might see posts from friends that aren’t real—profiles, pictures, and stories all generated by AI, making you question if anyone online is genuine.

- **Breakdown of Trust**: Trusting others would become difficult, as you’d always wonder if you’re talking to a real person or a fake. This would lead to shallow relationships built on doubt.

- **Digital Clones of You**: AI could use your online behavior to create thousands of versions of you, making it impossible for others—and even yourself—to tell the real you from the copies.

- **AI Living Your Life**: Digital clones could apply for jobs, interact with your friends, and make decisions, influencing your real-world life without your knowledge or control.

- **AI-Enhanced Reality**: Augmented reality could create a world tailored to your preferences, making everyday experiences a personalized illusion, further blurring the line between real and fake.

- **Political Manipulation**: Fake videos and news could easily sway public opinion, making it hard for voters to know what’s true, undermining democracy and leading to manipulation and chaos.

- **Need for Vigilance**: To navigate this chaotic world, we need new ways to tell the real from the fake, ensuring that truth can still be found in a sea of deception.

 

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GPT 4 assisted 

Edited September 2, 2024 by integral

[integral]

Thousands of copies of you

Imagine a world where your face, voice, and even your thoughts are scattered across the internet, replicated thousands of times. Each version of you moves through digital space, interacting with others, making decisions, and living a life that is parallel to yours but entirely separate. These digital clones know everything about you—your favorite foods, your pet peeves, your secrets—because they are built from your digital footprint. They’ve read your posts, listened to your conversations, and analyzed your habits. Now, they are you, and you are them. And no one, not even you, can tell the difference.

In this world, you wake up and log into your email, only to find messages sent by your clone to your boss, negotiating a deal you know nothing about. You check your social media and see pictures of "you" at a party you never attended, laughing with friends you’ve never met. These clones have your face, your mannerisms, your voice, and they’re out there living your life, making decisions that affect the real world. Some might be harmless, like a clone posting a new recipe on your food blog. Others could be dangerous, like one of your clones getting involved in illegal activities, tarnishing your reputation, and putting you in real trouble.

The world is flooded with these digital copies. Everyone has clones, and they’re everywhere. They fill up social media feeds, populate chat rooms, and even show up on dating apps. Some clones are helpful, like personal assistants who handle your daily tasks, manage your schedule, or send friendly reminders. They keep your life running smoothly, making you more efficient and productive. But other clones have more sinister intentions. They might scam people, spreading misinformation, or even manipulate others for their own gain. Imagine a clone of you spreading false news articles, convincing your friends and family of things that aren't true, or using your identity to defraud others. The potential for harm is immense.

Walking down the street, you wouldn't just see people; you'd see augmented versions of them. Some faces would flicker slightly, a digital glitch giving away their artificial nature. Advertisements would call out to you by name, personalized by the clones that know your buying habits better than you do. Stores would have AI-generated salespeople, each one a clone of a well-known influencer, urging you to buy the latest product. Politicians would campaign using digital versions of themselves, tailored to appeal to different demographics. You might meet a version of a candidate who perfectly aligns with your views, only to find out later that someone else met a completely different version of that same candidate.

Imagine the chaos in workplaces. You could sit down for a video conference with what looks like your boss, but is actually just a digital clone, programmed to handle meetings. You might collaborate on a project with a team that’s half real and half artificial. In some cases, you might not be able to tell the difference, and that’s exactly the point. Companies would use these clones to optimize productivity, replace human interaction, and cut costs. Your coworkers could be AI, your supervisor a sophisticated algorithm, all designed to mimic human behavior so well that no one notices.

This world of digital clones creates a society where trust becomes a rare commodity. If you can’t tell the real from the fake, who can you trust? Your best friend might be a digital clone, perfectly tailored to be the ideal companion, but completely fabricated. You could have deep conversations, share your innermost thoughts, and form bonds, only to find out that your friend never existed. Relationships become shallow and transactional, as people hesitate to invest in connections that might turn out to be fake. The very essence of what it means to be human—our interactions, our relationships, our trust in one another—becomes diluted.

In this chaotic world, digital clones don’t just exist—they thrive. Some clones might work for good, acting as extensions of ourselves, handling tasks, and simplifying our lives. Others, however, might serve darker purposes, spreading lies, sowing discord, or engaging in criminal activities. The line between good and bad, real and fake, becomes blurred, leaving us in a state of perpetual uncertainty. The era of chaos is not just a future possibility; it’s a reality in the making. As our digital selves continue to multiply, we face the challenge of navigating a world where our identities are no longer our own, where the truth is a shifting concept, and where the boundary between human and machine fades into nothingness.

[Sucuk Ekmek]

If I know myself my digital copy would like to exist in an analog form. As someone who cares for music certain movements are more desirable than others. What we perceive in digital forms are square data formations meanwhile nature dislikes  90-degree angles, you can't find such structure like that , there is always a curve element, which is non existent in digital.

 I have high expectations from my copy. Hope you'll make it! and stay away from workplaces unless you have to be there !

[Whitney Edwards]

There will be rules for how AI will be used in the future. For now we're stuck. 

[SaWaSaurus]

Year 2054, you get home from the office where you've been box-ticking and form filing for the last 8 hours.

You put on your metaverse helmet because work is done and it's now leisure time.

After indulging in a mixture of puppy videos and rage-bait content, your limbic system is primed.

As you continue scrolling, an ad appears. Emotional music starts playing, and you see someone you haven't seen in years. It's your dead father, visibly manifest and speaking, as if he were right there in front of you, alive. He's here on behalf of the political party to ensure you make the right choice in the upcoming election.

The satirists laugh while the angels weep.

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The ability to create synthetic people opens up a big can of worms. It will become a powerful tool for propaganda.

In 1964, a primitive psychotherapy algorithm called 'ELIZA' was created Joseph Weizenbaum at MIT. It would output simple answers to questions by says things like, "What is the connection there?", or "Can you explain why you're unhappy?". Some of the users would ask Weizenbaum if he could leave the room when asking the computer questions. Weizenbaum noticed something odd about that, and realized that these people were anthropomorphizing the computer program. This was alarming to Weizenbaum, but when he discussed it with his colleagues, they said it's great news, and that maybe in the future they could use these machines for therapy. Weizenbaum realized something else. While perhaps the machine could be used beneficially for therapy, it could also be a powerful tool for propaganda.

LLM chatbots, by design, use language that mimics the way humans talk. Combine this with deepfake technology, deepfake voice, and we're opening ourselves up to overwhelmingly powerful tools, and the consequence of those tools being used for self-interest and propaganda.

Edited September 4, 2024 by SaWaSaurus

[Fluran]

https://psygenlab.super.site/projects/most-intense-creepy-scary-conspiratorial-experience-repressed-sexual-energy-dead-internet-theory-solipsism-trip-report-72s-time

 

My last trip that was chimpanzee horny experience and dead internet theory, solipsism

 

I was scrolling and then suddenly I felt it was all AI fake generated content , AI pornos, it was a sub that is not Ai generated contents, but it was full of AI generated fake contents

 

I started feeling creepy vibe like solipsism, actually solipsistic realization together.

 

(omg this is going to be a nightmare xD)

 

Like, I am god, in the AI fake generated world where there are no humans actually, everyone is LLM chatgpt and medias, videos i watch is Ai generated, who knows if this is Ai generated or not. 

 

Or if this text is AI generated, or not.

 

And internet is dead (dead internet theory)

 

Every interaction on internet I have is pretty meaningless because it's all bots, all bots created for financial gain for some agent.

Edited September 8, 2024 by Fluran

[ici]

This is a really good post.

- Fake interactions 

I think the best way is to not trust any information out of your verified method of communication. For ex. if I receive a call from a number that’s not my mother’s and I hear her voice, I would be suspicious.

- Fake News Overload

We would need a reputable source of news. One that is unbiased and factually correct. The fake sources would just lose their reputation.

- Social Media Deception

Social media apps would probably require a method of identification just as banking apps do (provide an ID and video/selfie of yourself.) This could also be faked, though, and becomes an issue of privacy, which begs the question if people would continue using these apps. They might become extremely moderated and invite-only in order to build a chain of trust.

- Breakdown of trust

Read my last sentence of the previous paragraph. But yeah for platforms which have no mechanism of verifying real people, it’d be extremely difficult to trust if a profile is real.

- Digital clones of you

Might be prohibited by law as this is a form of impersonation. You might not even be allowed to impersonate yourself as a digital clone because it might be deemed unethical to society. Grey area. It would probably be regulated and chaotic nonetheless.

- AI living your life

Recruiters would probably filter out all the junk. They might use a third party service and system whose primary goal is to verify real humans and their identity. Probably a good start-up idea which would then be acquired by the government for utmost control.

- AI enhanced reality

People would be divided. Some would indulge in fantasies, some would prefer not to.

- Political manipulation 

Once again, we need a reputable source of information. All else would be dismissed and regarded as untrustworthy and unverified.

-  Need for vigilance 

The best way is to go out, touch grass and talk to people in real life, give them a hug. But yeah, people would find ways to solve that problem in the digital realm as well. It would just take a bit of time.

[ici]

One more thing came to mind. Social media companies might start opening physical offices and have you come in to verify your real identity (or they might delegate this to a third party,)

Edited September 8, 2024 by ici

[Sucuk Ekmek]

On 08.09.2024 at 9:23 PM, ici said:

One more thing came to mind. Social media companies might start opening physical offices and have you come in to verify your real identity (or they might delegate this to a third party,)

No way.

Company doesn't care for your identity this is a bad business model, check Apple, Tesla, Rolex, Your local central bank.

They are here to tailor identity, so they can be companies.

For example Leo has a terrible company, he is not selling any identity, or alternatively selling the hard ones.

[MutedMiles]

On 9/2/2024 at 10:08 PM, integral said:

### The Rise of Fake People: Entering the Era of Chaos

Imagine waking up in a world where you can’t tell what’s real from what’s fake. Picture this: you get a call from your mother. Her voice is warm and familiar as she asks about your day. But what if, in this world, you could never be sure if it was really her? Maybe it’s just a super-smart AI, perfectly imitating her voice, her laugh, even the way she talks about the weather. You’d never know, and that’s the scary part. This is a future where fake people outnumber real ones ten to one. You could be talking to someone online who seems just like any other person, but in reality, they’re a sophisticated program designed to blend in. In this era of chaos, every interaction becomes a guessing game.

The chaos doesn't stop with people. Think about the news. Today, we scroll through headlines and stories, trusting what we see. But in this future, fake news would be everywhere, looking just as real as the truth. Imagine reading about a major event—a new discovery, a political scandal, or a celebrity's dramatic incident. It’s all over the internet, on every site, shared by everyone. But what if it’s completely fabricated, created by AI to look and feel like real news? For every true story you find, there are ten fake ones. Sorting out what’s real from what’s not would be almost impossible.

Imagine logging into your favorite social media site. You see a post from a friend, talking about an amazing vacation they’re on, complete with photos. The comments are full of friends asking questions, giving likes. But what if that friend doesn’t exist? The vacation, the photos, the entire profile could be generated by AI. In a world full of fake people, you’d never be sure who’s real. Even video calls, once a way to feel connected, could be faked with AI-generated faces that look exactly like your loved ones.

Now, think about how this affects trust. Trust is what holds relationships together. If you couldn’t trust that the person you’re talking to is real, how would that change things? You’d be on edge, doubting every interaction. Relationships would become shallow because the deep trust needed for real connection would be gone. Every call, every message, every face you see could be fake.

But it gets even more personal. Imagine AI learning everything about you from your digital footprint—every post, message, photo, and like. Now picture thousands of versions of you existing online. Each one knows your habits, your style, your interests. They talk like you, act like you, even think like you. People interact with these digital clones, believing they’re talking to the real you, but you have no control over what these versions say or do. You’re one voice among a thousand echoes, lost in the digital noise. In this world, no one, not even you, can tell which is the real you and which are the copies. Your identity is no longer yours alone; it's a shared, distorted echo that exists everywhere and nowhere.

This idea of digital clones can go even further. What if these versions of you, created by AI, start applying for jobs, using your name, your credentials, even your face? Employers might think they’re hiring the real you, but it’s just a digital replica. What happens when these clones start interacting with your friends and family, making plans, sending messages, living a life parallel to yours but completely out of your control? The clones could make decisions, form opinions, and take actions that affect the real world, all while you remain unaware. Your reputation, your relationships, your entire life could be influenced by these rogue versions of you. 

And what about the future of AI-enhanced reality? Imagine putting on augmented reality glasses and seeing a world that’s not quite real. You walk down a street, and every advertisement, every storefront, every face you see could be altered by AI. It could tailor what you see based on your preferences, showing you a version of reality that’s uniquely yours but completely fabricated. The world outside your window could become a personalized illusion, tailored to your likes, dislikes, and biases, creating a bubble that distorts your perception of reality.

This extends beyond personal life into society as a whole. Imagine the chaos in politics. Election campaigns could be flooded with fake endorsements, fake scandals, fake rallies. Videos of politicians saying things they never said, or doing things they never did, could sway public opinion. People wouldn’t know what to believe. How could you make a good decision about who to vote for if you couldn’t tell which news was real? Democracy depends on informed citizens, but in a world overrun with fakes, manipulation would become easy, and chaos would reign.

To survive in this chaotic future, we need to be more vigilant than ever. We’d need new tools and skills to detect what’s real and what’s not, to hold onto the truth even when it’s hidden. If we don’t, we risk living in a world where everything is uncertain, where reality slips away, and we’re left in a sea of confusion, never sure of who or what to trust.

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### Bullet Point Summary

- **Fake Interactions**: In a future full of AI, you could get a call from your mother, hear her voice, and have no idea it’s not actually her, but an AI perfectly imitating her.

- **Fake News Overload**: The news could be filled with fake stories that look just as real as true ones, making it nearly impossible to know what’s actually happening in the world.

- **Social Media Deception**: You might see posts from friends that aren’t real—profiles, pictures, and stories all generated by AI, making you question if anyone online is genuine.

- **Breakdown of Trust**: Trusting others would become difficult, as you’d always wonder if you’re talking to a real person or a fake. This would lead to shallow relationships built on doubt.

- **Digital Clones of You**: AI could use your online behavior to create thousands of versions of you, making it impossible for others—and even yourself—to tell the real you from the copies.

- **AI Living Your Life**: Digital clones could apply for jobs, interact with your friends, and make decisions, influencing your real-world life without your knowledge or control.

- **AI-Enhanced Reality**: Augmented reality could create a world tailored to your preferences, making everyday experiences a personalized illusion, further blurring the line between real and fake.

- **Political Manipulation**: Fake videos and news could easily sway public opinion, making it hard for voters to know what’s true, undermining democracy and leading to manipulation and chaos.

- **Need for Vigilance**: To navigate this chaotic world, we need new ways to tell the real from the fake, ensuring that truth can still be found in a sea of deception.

 

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GPT 4 assisted 

This is a good post, and in a weirdly ironic way the post talking about "fake" itself is synthetic and in a sense fake  . You made your point and proved it too.

Just a side note:
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The problem with GPT - 4 and later versions too specially the chat interface. is that it wastes your time, by engaging you in a large response, particularly the bullet points, i have system instruction added to it where i trained it to be mindful of the fact that i have finite life and every second that i waste while reading synthetic distraction is killing me slowly. So I do get better and short responses mostly.

 

Edited September 12, 2024 by MutedMiles