Life is a dream, what is ultimate purpose ?

[Breakingthewall]

@Princess Arabia  

Anyway, the word dream defines the result of billions of neuronal connections copying the daytime activity recorded by the brain  having as basis the information sent by the senses. That's what the word dream means. If the people want to use the word dream as something else, for example the creation of the nothingness of existence, they should use another word so as not to seem ignorant who do not know the meaning of the words, or who have not thoroughly contemplated what they mean. that could mean and they talk superficially saying things that sound good but don't make sense

 

Edited September 2 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's what the word dream means. If the enlightened wannabes want to use the word dream as something else, for example the creation of the nothingness of existence, they should use another word so as not to seem ignorant who do not know the meaning of the words, or who have not thoroughly contemplated what they mean. that could mean and they talk superficially saying things that sound good but don't make sense

Language was invented by humans to be able to communicate with each other. Existentially, words don't mean a thing but only what we give them. So it's all just mental masturbation. The Universe operates on frequency and vibrations and our emotions, which is energy in motion, is the language of the Universe.

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[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Language was invented by humans to be able to communicate with each other. Existentially, words don't mean a thing but only what we give them. So it's all just mental masturbation. The Universe operates on frequency and vibrations and our emotions, which is energy in motion, is the language of the Universe.

Sure but we want to get as close as possible to some type of understanding or to something that points to an understanding, we cannot use relative words as if they were absolute and even less misunderstand those words or understand them superficially without having thoroughly contemplated all their implications.

[Breakingthewall]

The problem with the word dream to define reality is that it is absolutely limiting, and absolutely false, it points in a direction that is not, simply 

Apparent reality is an emanation of the absolute, it would be something closer to reality, and if you contemplate it, it is radically different.

Edited September 2 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

52 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure but we want to get as close as possible to some type of understanding or to something that points to an understanding, we cannot use relative words as if they were absolute and even less misunderstand those words or understand them superficially without having thoroughly contemplated all their implications.

Yes so it's all relative and gives meaning to who is interpreting. None of it is Absolute. I'm just responding to your comment about dreams and words and how we misinterpret. That's just for our human understanding and nothing to do with the Universe as words and knowledge are just a by-product and can only point to the relative.

[Ishanga]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes so it's all relative and gives meaning to who is interpreting. None of it is Absolute. I'm just responding to your comment about dreams and words and how we misinterpret. That's just for our human understanding and nothing to do with the Universe as words and knowledge are just a by-product and can only point to the relative.

That is why there is no answer to most Why questions, especially the big ones, Why are we here, What is the purpose of Life, What is Life/God/Absolute, there is no answer that Satisfies because like You say it is relative.. But where is this question coming from? Animals and Plant/Insect Life, can/are they asking this? I think not, maybe in their own way they are, but probably not, they just Live Life.

So that is why I call it a Game, it has rules, boundaries, because we are here as Humans, playing out this game, with Life inside of us, full of Potential, so in simple language its a Game..

Ppl like the OP that ask these questions, wanting answers of sorts, will just come back empty handed and probably have more questions arising, so it becomes endless, how many threads have been started here with the same question, why does it come up over and over again? Cycles, Karma at play, same thing over and over again, intellectual mind loops gets one know where...sooner or later forums like this lose their meaning/purpose...

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[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

That is why there is no answer to most Why questions, especially the big ones, Why are we here, What is the purpose of Life, What is Life/God/Absolute, there is no answer that Satisfies because like You say it is relative.. But where is this question coming from? Animals and Plant/Insect Life, can/are they asking this? I think not, maybe in their own way they are, but probably not, they just Live Life.

So that is why I call it a Game, it has rules, boundaries, because we are here as Humans, playing out this game, with Life inside of us, full of Potential, so in simple language its a Game..

Ppl like the OP that ask these questions, wanting answers of sorts, will just come back empty handed and probably have more questions arising, so it becomes endless, how many threads have been started here with the same question, why does it come up over and over again? Cycles, Karma at play, same thing over and over again, intellectual mind loops gets one know where...sooner or later forums like this lose their meaning/purpose...

Yes, everything but your last sentence. Always new batches coming along. Maybe for you, bur not for everyone. People will never tire of communicating and getting together even if it's on a forum. Social media on a whole proves this. We give it meaning and your meaning may be different from someone else's. 

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[Ishanga]

29 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, everything but your last sentence. Always new batches coming along. Maybe for you, bur not for everyone. People will never tire of communicating and getting together even if it's on a forum. Social media on a whole proves this. We give it meaning and your meaning may be different from someone else's. 

People are posting to ask questions in search of answers, all they need to do is a simple search, that is what I did when I first got here, i searched things I was interested in and read some threads. 

Yes I agree about the meaning aspect, ppl focus on what is meaningful to them, no problem with that, which is why I respect Leo in how he set up this forum, its got a place for most anyone with all the various sub forums and topics ppl can discuss, so that part is very good..

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes so it's all relative and gives meaning to who is interpreting. None of it is Absolute. I'm just responding to your comment about dreams and words and how we misinterpret. That's just for our human understanding and nothing to do with the Universe as words and knowledge are just a by-product and can only point to the relative.

Being relative some ideas are accurate and others no. "You are god dreaming the reality" is not accurate for many reasons. You are not dreaming, or doing anything, the absolute is, or existence exist, and this, the appearance is the absolute, but it's relative in it's appearance. It's not the product of an action of dreaming, that some entity is doing, that is wrong, and limits the possibility of real understanding 

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[Water by the River]

Hunting and killing „Buddhas“ on the road. 🎃🙈

Preferably together with UnbornTao and Leo…

… by the River

And having done that, chilling in Sat Chit Ananda

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[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Ishanga said:

That is why there is no answer to most Why questions, especially the big ones, Why are we here, What is the purpose of Life,

There is an absolute answer: existence exist. Ultimately nothing have any sense, it is. 

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ultimately nothing have any sense,

So true.

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

So true.

It cannot be any other way, because if it had meaning or sense, it would be a relative meaning.

@Water by the River would say that god wants to learn, or play a game seeking himself, but maybe it's a subtle, small, light.... identification. the absolute wants nothing, can't learn nothing, it's beyond of that, because it's absolute, immutable. I don't understand why or how the appearances are changing, I'd say because it's impossible otherwise, nothing else. 

[Breakingthewall]

the absolute is terrifying, because it is the end of the road. If in meditation or psychedelics you see the absolute, it is horrible, because you realize that there is no place to go, you are alone, immutable, trapped in eternity. It is one of the most horrible sensations there is.

On the other hand, if you merge with the absolute, if you realize that you are not looking at it, but that you are it, and you open your heart, and your heart is total, it is absolute paradise. hell and paradise are separated by a barrier: duality. Duality closes the real flavour of the reality. 

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[Breakingthewall]

but the dualities are subtle, an enigma within an enigma within an enigma. There is nothing you can do, you can only, let's say, promote the openness, focus on what prevents it, cleanse your mental vibration, which requires great insight and honesty. Do you want to cleanse your mental vibration, or do you want to be the one who has arrived? To go through the door you have to bow your head. pride must be left out, the need for understanding too. Naked, empty. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia I was learning about mayan religion their religion is Maya. The same maya as hindu maya =illusion. So mayan = illusionists.