When you are looking at a coin...

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Dodo said:

"Babies go through a period of time where things that dissappear essentially cease to exist for them,

But they do cry for their momma that might be in the kitchen and out of sight. Explain that.

[Dodo]

1 hour ago, Atb210201 said:

What's your source? Trust me bro?

No sorry I just trust my eyes

If I don't see you right now then you don't actually exist hehe

Don't trust your eyes. By not seeing me you are seeing me! I am nothing kek 

[Atb210201]

1 hour ago, Dodo said:

Don't trust your eyes. By not seeing me you are seeing me! I am nothing kek 

Hah I see you don't even argue about the topic you yourself have made in fact you argue against it if needed

Smart man😏

[Keryo Koffa]

Explain this then: do you think your experience is consistent?

If so, how is it consistent, how do you do anything, remember anything, or draw any associations?

Because there's a background intelligence. Sure, you can call it "nothing" or magic and it is magic.

But that doesn't mean you can't explore it or that it doesn't exist.

Things being illusory doesn't take away from the fact they're intelligently arranged.

You can dismiss it as spontaneously arising/emerging, but you yourself construct your reality just like it constructs you.

And you can find out how if you take your head out of the sand.

Everything now unconscious intelligence was once conscious effort and still is on other levels of reality below abstraction.

Edited September 2 by Keryo Koffa

[Ero]

5 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Explain this then: do you think your experience is consistent?

If so, how is it consistent, how do you do anything, remember anything, or draw any associations?

Because there's a background intelligence. Sure, you can call it "nothing" or magic and it is magic.

But that doesn't mean you can't explore it or that it doesn't exist.

Things being illusory doesn't take away from the fact they're intelligently arranged.

You can dismiss it as spontaneously arising/emerging, but you yourself construct your reality just like it constructs you.

And you can find out how if you take your head out of the sand.

Everything now unconscious intelligence was once conscious effort and still is on other levels of reality below abstraction.

This.

[Dodo]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

But they do cry for their momma that might be in the kitchen and out of sight. Explain that.

Babies cry out of many reasons, they start from birth before knowing their mama. 

[Dodo]

6 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Explain this then: do you think your experience is consistent?

If so, how is it consistent, how do you do anything, remember anything, or draw any associations?

Because there's a background intelligence. Sure, you can call it "nothing" or magic and it is magic.

But that doesn't mean you can't explore it or that it doesn't exist.

Things being illusory doesn't take away from the fact they're intelligently arranged.

You can dismiss it as spontaneously arising/emerging, but you yourself construct your reality just like it constructs you.

And you can find out how if you take your head out of the sand.

Everything now unconscious intelligence was once conscious effort and still is on other levels of reality below abstraction.

I dont get if its directed at me, no tags, and the contents of post seem totally unrelated to what I wrote about. I have no idea what you argue about. 

 

:"Explain this then, do you think your experience is conistent"

One guy says i dont exist because he dont see me, the other guy says my experience is consistent. Come on guys! 

Do I exist or not, make up your minds.

But lets be real, if this post was directed towards me, then it stems from ignorance of my true position.

Edited September 3 by Dodo

[Keryo Koffa]

On 9/1/2024 at 7:46 PM, Dodo said:

Do you know the other side is there without seeing it? Or is it only a belief there is another side, until you look?

5 hours ago, Dodo said:

I dont get if its directed at me, no tags, and the contents of post seem totally unrelated to what I wrote about.

But lets be real, if this post was directed towards me, then it stems from ignorance of my true position.

My first answer adressed the what/how/when/why of the existence of the invisible second coin side.

This second one is directed at the underlying meta-sentiment of this type of question as a whole from the thread title:
Which is that it implies tons of a dichotomies, which can be subverted by actual observation

Do you exist? Well, what does it take for you to know that when your very being doesn't seem proof enough for you?
Do you think you dissolve into nothingess when you close your eyes, even though you keep opening them?
Are you questioning the nature of your experience or it as a whole? If everything is an illusion, nothing is.
You are constantly changing, your mind shifting, your psyche and body reconstructing

But neither answers, nor questions of this briefness will satisfy you, so here's a longer excerpt:

"You are alive now, a consciousness knowing itself, sparkling with cognition amid a debris of dead and dying cells; alive while the atoms and molecules of your body die and are reborn. You are alive, therefore, in the midst of small deaths; portions of your own image crumble away moment by moment and are replaced, and you scarcely give the matter a thought. So you are to some extent now alive in the midst of the death of yourself - alive despite, and yet because of, the multitudinous deaths and rebirths that occur within your body in physical terms. If the cells did not die and were not replenished, the physical image would not continue to exist, so now in the present, as you know it, your consciousness flickers about your ever-changing corporeal image. In many ways you can compare your consciousness as you know it now to a firefly, for while it seems to you that your consciousness is continuous, this is not so. It also flickers off and on, though as we mentioned earlier, it is never completely extinguished. Its focus is not nearly as constant as you suppose, however. So as you are alive in the midst of your own multitudinous small deaths, so though you do not realize it, you are often "dead," even amid the sparkling life of your own consciousness. I am using your own terms here. By "dead," therefore, I mean completely unfocused in physical reality. Now your consciousness, quite simply, is not physically alive, physically oriented, for exactly the same amount of time as it is physically alive and oriented. This may sound confusing, but hopefully we shall make it clearer. There are pulsations of consciousness, though again you may not be aware of them. Consider this analogy. For one instant your consciousness is "alive," focused in physical reality. Now for the next instant it is focused somewhere else entirely, in a different system of reality. It is unalive, or "dead" to your way of thinking. The next instant it is "alive" again, focused in your reality, but you are not aware of the intervening instant of unaliveness. Your sense of continuity therefore is built up entirely on every other pulsation of consciousness. Remember this is an analogy, so that the word "instant" should not be taken too literally. There is, then, what we can call an underside of consciousness. Now, in the same way, atoms and molecules exist so that they are "dead," or inactive within your system, then alive or active, but you cannot perceive the instant in which they do not exist. Since your bodies and your entire physical universe are composed of atoms and molecules, then I am telling you that the entire structure exists in the same manner. It flickers off and on, in other words, and in a certain rhythm, as, say, the rhythm of breath. There are overall rhythms, and within them an infinity of individual variations - almost like cosmic metabolism. In these terms, what you call death is simply the insertion of a longer duration of that pulsation of which you are not aware, a long pause in that other dimension, so to speak. The death, say, of physical tissue, is merely a part of the process of life as you know it in your system, a part of the process of becoming. And from those tissues, as you know, new life will spring."