When is sexually escalating with a woman you just met come off as desperate?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

Masculine men naturally push women to be in their divine and radiant feminine, they are feminine energy protectors. While toxic masculine men or too feminine men do the opposite, they are feminine energy destroyers.

Exactly. I've had the pleasure of being around masculine men and noticed they were just naturally like this, no coaching or schooling, They weren't gym rats or fancy dressers, or even cared too much about their appearance but only to the minimum where they smelled clean, shaven and decent clothing. They concentrated more on their work, how they would provide and protected their loved ones and made sure everyone around them was ok before they were. After that, they would enjoy themselves in their man cave. Love making with these men is very unselfish and they want to please more than be pleased because they derived their pleasure from pleasing the feminine. Just looking at them you couldn't tell, but if a female knows what to look for she can spot them within minutes or after talking to them for a short while. They are not simps and they themselves knows the kind of woman they want and will gently pursue her if she seems available without pushing themselves on her to respect her boundaries while staying firm in their approach. 

I've also spent time with feminine men. They were energy drainers and looked to be pleased every fucking step of the way. They were insecure and needed validation every fucking minute and if you said the wrong thing they would take it personally and crawled up in their shells until you made them feel safe to come back out. They were professional manipulators and would try to make you feel bad for not loving them how they think you should show and give them the love and affection they so direly crave since they didn't receive it in childhood and now you gotta be their momma and let them suck on your tits like a crying baby in adult pampers.

Let me stop and don't get me talking about toxic masculine because narcissists ain't got nothing on this double narcissistic double whammy of a cheese burger. They will make you feel like something is wrong with you, but they will come off sweet at first and lure you in by the hips and seduce you the best way they know how to fit their standard even if it's with a Mackie Dee's meal and a dollar store pocket book and give you $50 for your birthday and believe he's the best thing you ever had since Kentucky fried chicken launched. Ok that's enough. I will start to offend and get written up and suspended and expelled and told to come back after I straighten up my tone of voice. Hehe...hehe...You know how I get once in awhile when Shenaynay, my other half gets loose. Told the doctor to give me extra strength zolofts but he said it's too strong and will sedate me too much into a zombie.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I've also spent time with feminine men. They were energy drainers and looked to be pleased every fucking step of the way. They were insecure and needed validation every fucking minute and if you said the wrong thing they would take it personally and crawled up in their shells until you made them feel safe to come back out. They were professional manipulators and would try to make you feel bad for not loving them how they think you should show and give them the love and affection they so direly crave

So you admit this is how the feminine is?

How telling.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

They were professional manipulators and would try to make you feel bad for not loving them how they think you should show and give them the love and affection they so direly crave since they didn't receive it in childhood and now you gotta be their momma and let them suck on your tits like a crying baby in adult pampers.

Just say you don't like your kind, but when they're men.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

41 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

This is a toxic feminine behavior, not the divine feminine.

When what happened to the 4th type: the divine feminine man?

[Michael569]

On 01/09/2024 at 3:10 AM, Hardkill said:

and within about the first 5 to 15 minutes of interacting we make out and I rub her breasts and butt

If a woman let me do that after 10 minutes of meeting me for the first time, I'd be pretty disgusted. Zero class, zero self respect. A high quality woman won't let you touch her without proper courting first. You'll piss her off if you try it. 

 Call me old fashioned but girls who do this are not worth your time and you are just wasting that time that should be spent looking for a high quality partner so that you can finally move on with your life. Finding a girl is not the end goal, it is a milestone on the journey towards your own self actualisation. If you can have someone share that journey with you, it is amazing and you should ideally find her earlier rather than later but hanging out for the purpose of quick sex is just...wrong. 

I look at some of my friends who used to do this kinda of pick up activity every weekend, Now they are in mid 30s, still single, still dating, still unable to move on. Most of the girls in their age group are married or in relationships. Its a tragedy that we've been told we need to do this to find a life partner, we don't.

 Night clubs are not where you find high quality women. They hang out in sports classes, libraries, art classes, university clubs, not in bars and night clubs pissing away money on cocktails, letting random dudes grope their ass and breasts. That's such a massive red flag right there. If a quality girl comes into a club it is never to be approached, it is because she wants to have fun and dance with her girlfriends. 

No hate here, just be mindful that you use your productive time wisely and strategically. 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Michael569

[Whitney Edwards]

1 minute ago, Michael569 said:

If a woman let me do that after 10 minutes of meeting me for the first time, I'd be pretty disgusted, zero class, zero self respect. A high quality woman won't let you touch her without proper courting first. Call me old fashioned but girls who do this are not worth your time and you are just wasting that time that should be spent looking for a high quality partner so that you can finally get on with your life and move on to more important things. 

Spoken like a gentleman. Thank you Michael. 

 

[Whitney Edwards]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When what happened to the 4th type: the divine feminine man?

You already got your divine feminine man on this thread - your own moderator Michael. Welcome him!

 

[Nemra]

@Lila9, why do you think that the opposite couldn't be the case?

Are women in their divine feminine in conflict with the divine masculine? Or are you going to say for women it's the opposite?

[Nemra]

@Lila9, what about women in their divine masculine?

[Nemra]

28 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Women who are constantly in their masculine and don’t integrate their femininity are often angry, drained, and stressed. Often physically and mentally ill. 

Don't women who are constantly in their feminine have their problems?

It seems like you are saying that women being in their masculine is a reaction, but in their feminine is being themselves, as if femininity for all women is more fundamental than masculinity.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Nemra

[Andrey]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

When what happened to the 4th type: the divine feminine man?

You mean Owen Cook?

[Salvijus]

Masculine means zen

Feminine means love. 

Best if you have both. 

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

So you admit this is how the feminine is?

How telling.

Feminine and masculine energy are expressed differently when filtered through the body. A feminine man isn't necessarily acting like a female and a masculine woman isn't necessarily acting like a man; or, more appropriately, when both are in their feminine and masculine respectively.  When I say feminine man, I'm not describing how a female acts; I'm describing how the feminine energy acts when it's coming from a man. Or when he has embodied more if his feminine side to the point of an imbalance since both sexes possess both the masculine and feminine.

9 hours ago, QVx said:

 

 

7 hours ago, Lila9 said:

 

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Nemra said:

Don't women who are constantly in their feminine have their problems?

It seems like you are saying that women being in their masculine is a reaction, but in their feminine is being themselves, as if femininity for all women is more fundamental than masculinity.

I don't think that's what she was saying at all. I think it's more when they're constantly in their feminine and never embrace or embody their masculine side when needed in order for a balance to take place.

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Women who are constantly in their masculine and don’t integrate their femininity are often angry, drained, and stressed. Often physically and mentally ill.

This is so true.

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Nemra said:

Just say you don't like your kind, but when they're men.

Who said anything about not liking anything. All I'm doing is simply stating opinions, expressing my observations and saying what I've noticed between different types of men. Feminine men aren't females and they act totally different than an actual feminine woman. Men who are dominantly in their feminine is what I mean when I say feminine men. None of it is a bashing and i do joke around sometimes but I will and have dated feminine men and have had great times with the ones I've dated. They were still men, but they were more in their feminine and a bit more sensitive. Nothing wrong with either category and if the right one comes along from either category and I'm able to find a balance between myself and them, i wouldn't hesitate to bond with them; And when I say right one I mean suitable for me because my personality is one that is very adjustable and can go with the flow as long as certain boundaries aren't crossed and there are not too many conflicts.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Salvijus]

The only unhealthy masculine trait I can think of is dick-measuring/superiority complex. Yet having a healthy masculine means being a powerful leader. And the only unhealthy feminine trait I can think of is a Cinderella complex. Yet being a wonderful, radiant expression of love (like a princess) is what feminine is all about. Interesting conundrum. 🤔 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

12 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Toxic feminine: manipulativeness, co-dependence, passive aggressiveness, self victimization, gossiping, self sacrifice 

Toxic masculine: Aggression, emotional suppression, entitlement, over competitiveness, isolation, exaggerating achievements 

Damn

[Salvijus]

I just got seriously schooled

[Salvijus]

But I think you people are over thinking this a lot. Just be self-aware and kind. You'll have all those healthy masculine/feminine qualities. 

Self awareness will protect the feminine becoming unhealthy. And kindness will prevent the masculine from becoming unhealthy. 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Salvijus