Meditation made me realise that others are artificial and everything else is natural.

[Rishabh R]

When I started regularly meditating in December 2019, I could just meditate for 1 minute . After 1 year I increased it to 5 minutes and now I am meditating 20 minutes per day. I am doing the no manipulation technique and the more I make myself present I realized that external noises , other's voices are artificial while natural sounds like sound of the fan and the air touching my leg are natural. Could anyone explain this ?

 

[aurum]

8 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

When I started regularly meditating in December 2019, I could just meditate for 1 minute . After 1 year I increased it to 5 minutes and now I am meditating 20 minutes per day. I am doing the no manipulation technique and the more I make myself present I realized that external noises , other's voices are artificial while natural sounds like sound of the fan and the air touching my leg are natural. Could anyone explain this ?

 

All external noises are within you, as well as any distinctions between artificial and natural.

[Breakingthewall]

because the voices of others have meaning, and natural sounds do not. The meaning is what seems artificial, because it is. The voices are natural, but the meaning is logical mind, the human mess. 

[Hojo]

the human body is a computer, it just goes bow bow bow bow and you make up what its saying.

Edited September 1 by Hojo

[Ishanga]

5 hours ago, aurum said:

All external noises are within you, as well as any distinctions between artificial and natural.

All noises are "Experienced" within You, not generated, all Experience happens only within You, all stimuli from 5 senses or others only happen within You, in a subjective sense there is only You, You are the center of the Universe, but there are others having the same experience and its the same with them...This is not Solipsism, this is just realizing that everything happens within You, when You go into Deep Sleep, nothing exists for You subjectively, then when You awake everything re appears, this does not mean nothing exists without You being Awake, it just means Subjectivity is really all You have, but again its the same with everyone!

[aurum]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

All noises are "Experienced" within You, not generated

Not generated?

Are you or are you not God?

[Yimpa]

@Breakingthewall hey, get back here... you can't hide from me!

[Breakingthewall]

To meditate is to enter in the raw reality, to perceive the obstacles of fear, contraction, and the energy flows. the meaning paradoxically means nothing, it is false. No concept is true, the true is the substance, fear is substance, the word fear is only a mental vibration, an idea that suggests another idea and so on without end. Fear, on the other hand, is here, now. do you perceive it? or do you just name it? If you perceive it and see it directly, it disappears. 

[Ishanga]

26 minutes ago, aurum said:

Not generated?

Are you or are you not God?

Define "God"..

There are Individual Bodies and Minds, what I think of as God, or Shiva/Absolute/That which is Not, is a Grand Intelligences of Sorts, it was there before any sort of Creation happened, all of Us have this Grand Intelligence within Us, but that does not mean I am a God or God/Absolute completely and totally, I'm Human, I have this Absolute as the Seed of what I am, but I have to seek it and discover it, its not in my Awareness naturally, and its the same for most ppl, some are gifted and its easier to access for them.

Once this Grand Intelligence/Absolute is accessed in Your Life, then Your Living beyond just Survival and Accumulating ppl, places and things, You live to a higher Possibility and Potential, it has no end really!

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Define "God"..

There are Individual Bodies and Minds, what I think of as God, or Shiva/Absolute/That which is Not, is a Grand Intelligences of Sorts, it was there before any sort of Creation happened, all of Us have this Grand Intelligence within Us, but that does not mean I am a God or God/Absolute completely and totally, I'm Human, I have this Absolute as the Seed of what I am, but I have to seek it and discover it, its not in my Awareness naturally, and its the same for most ppl, some are gifted and its easier to access for them.

Once this Grand Intelligence/Absolute is accessed in Your Life, then Your Living beyond just Survival and Accumulating ppl, places and things, You live to a higher Possibility and Potential, it has no end really!

Clear description. We are the totality, but we can't scape of being the part, Limited . The point is trying to open the totality in us as deep as it is possible. 

[Human Mint]

Because you have an ego, like it or not

[Rishabh R]

@Human Mint yeah I know but you too have an ego.

 

Edited September 1 by Rishabh R

[Human Mint]

@Rishabh R "Others are artificial and everything else is natural" doesn't make sense at all, or I am not sure what it means... yet if that's your objective then who am I to tell you what to experience. Maybe you could try meditating for 2 hours.

I was saying it is probably a reaction of your ego. And since you were so intrigued I answered. Yet thanks for reminding me.

Edited September 2 by Human Mint

[Inliytened1]

On 8/31/2024 at 1:16 PM, Rishabh R said:

When I started regularly meditating in December 2019, I could just meditate for 1 minute . After 1 year I increased it to 5 minutes and now I am meditating 20 minutes per day. I am doing the no manipulation technique and the more I make myself present I realized that external noises , other's voices are artificial while natural sounds like sound of the fan and the air touching my leg are natural. Could anyone explain this ?

 

Everything is imaginary. 

[Rishabh R]

@Human Mint ok sorry.

[Spiritedness]

@Rishabh R When you say you 'realized' they are artificial what do you mean? How does it 'feel'? Try to explain it a bit more.

[Rishabh R]

@Spiritedness It feels like all other noise are coming from artificial sources and stillness seems natural.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

20 minutes a day are rookie numbers.

[Rishabh R]

@Husseinisdoingfine But that's still a good number as for me who meditated 1-5 minutes since years .