Random thoughts

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Not necessarily, even a normal person can be happy if his ego begins to lack substance.

This normally happens when we overcome the problems that the ego identifies with, but if the problems are too complicated, if they are permanently there without being corrected, then this blocks access to happiness.

Omg I relate to this. I was almost gonna write in some thread “the greatest change comes with some ego dissolution” so it’s like it consists of layers of identification kinda. And we have a certain identity and operating from a certain paradigm, so if we get rid of a problem we have to get rid of the identity layer to that paradigm. So dissolving a layer to ourselves.

Edited Tuesday at 07:07 PM by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

17 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Omg I relate to this. I was almost gonna write in some thread “the greatest change comes with some ego dissolution” so it’s like it consists of layers of identification kinda. And we have a certain identity and operating from a certain paradigm, so if we get rid of a problem we have to get rid of the identity layer to that paradigm. So dissolving a layer to ourselves.

When we are small or when we live in a setting where stressors are intermittent (typically survival, in the third world) it is easier to be happy.
But in the opposite case, negative experiences, cognitive dissonances and defense mechanisms (neurotic character) makes the ego much heavier, with more layers eheh, and we find ourselves in a rather cold and repetitive place.

I tended to have a very strong ego myself and when i started to socialize, and it is still a bit the case today, i was surprised to see how normal and happier people than me seemed more "simple", their psyche was simple while mine was very complicated and heavy.

It is not just happiness that the ego suppresses, it is also motivation, physical power, empathy towards others including family, punctuality etc.

My father made a lot of efforts for me and yet I always had difficulty loving him, the same for most people; During my first try with LSD not only did I enter a state of ecstasy, samadhi, and I was finally able to feel a powerful feeling of love and empathy.

17 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

almost gonna write in some thread “the greatest change comes with some ego dissolution” 

I wait for it eheh.

Edited Tuesday at 07:24 PM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

28 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

When we are small or when we live in a setting where stressors are intermittent (typically survival, in the third world) it is easier to be happy.
But in the opposite case, negative experiences, cognitive dissonances and defense mechanisms (neurotic character) makes the ego much heavier, with more layers eheh, and we find ourselves in a rather cold and repetitive place.

 

The human brain is wired for intermittent stressors related to survival. That’s the natural way we’ve been living. So it makes sense it would be easier to be happy. One could wonder though if those people under those circumstances have simpler psyches and that’s contributing to their happiness, but I would guess the psyche is the same globally but the circumstances people live in affect their psyche differently.

I have wondered if people have differently dense egos. I think the human ego structure is similar all over the globe generally but the outside influences it. So the neurosis in the modern world will be different than in the third world. Doesn’t mean a heavier ego. More comfortable lifestyles allow for more self absorption and self centeredness rather than being occupied by survival so more time alone in the head overthinking is possible and all kinds of neurosis’s. 
 

28 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I tended to have a very strong ego myself and when i started to socialize, and it is still a bit the case today, i was surprised to see how normal and happier people than me seemed more "simple", their psyche was simple while mine was very complicated and heavy.

It is not just happiness that the ego suppresses, it is also motivation, physical power, empathy towards others including family, punctuality etc.

My father made a lot of efforts for me and yet I always had difficulty loving him, the same for most people; During my first try with LSD not only did I enter a state of ecstasy, samadhi, and I was finally able to feel a powerful feeling of love and empathy.

I wait for it eheh.

What you describe as a more “simple” psyche is what I would also describe as a more “extroverted” psyche so someone being more focused on the immediate outside world rather than inward in their heads.

You seem not to use the ego to describe the human self overall (which I do) but as more of an aspect of the self, like self absorption and self centeredness/inwardness 

I can relate to ego suppressing empathy. It’s like when we are caught up in a negative thought train about how someone did something bad that it overpowers the empathy and understanding we could have for them 

That’s cool you experienced that on lsd. It was maybe because it softened your ego.

You don’t have to respond to all of this I’m just writing from my own mind a little expression

Edited Tuesday at 07:52 PM by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

@Schizophonia I’m surprised you’ve stuck with me so long despite my craziness , I just talked to a woman here on the forum that stopped replying when I told her my weird struggles (despite asking for it)😹

[Schizophonia]

 

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Schizophonia I’m surprised you’ve stuck with me so long

I'm not stuck, i just take pleasure simping talking to you and you are difficult to replace.

There are plenty of normies i could easily win over but there would be no point in doing so outside of sex.

If you would push me away i would just shrug and give Willy another direction, for now he cares enough about his slavic alien so I'm taking advantage of it to have fun.

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

despite my craziness

Ahah, no that's the hot part

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

, I just talked to a woman here on the forum that stopped replying when I told her my weird struggles (despite asking for it)😹

Sometimes i start discussions and I'm actually too lazy to continue, because the goal was mainly to show off my ideas, because I had a burst of interest or something like that.

[Schizophonia]

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

The human brain is wired for intermittent stressors related to survival. That’s the natural way we’ve been living.

Yep.

Think about it : There isn't even a way to know how you look like in nature !  The only times you would even vaguely know what you look like would be when looking in the reflection of a body of water. There is also no fashion, no makeup, and we wouldn't even have the same physical appearance due to differences in living standards. And then of course there is survival which distracts our attention.

And everything changed like that, but not our DNA ans so CNS. 

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

So it makes sense it would be easier to be happy. One could wonder though if those people under those circumstances have simpler psyches and that’s contributing to their happiness, but I would guess the psyche is the same globally but the circumstances people live in affect their psyche differently.

Sadghuru said we would be happy if we if they remove half of our brains lol.

You spend your life on youtube so i'm sure you've seen it.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I have wondered if people have differently dense egos.

I think ego density is the biggest characteristic that determines a person's personality along with their mobility (hypomania vs stability).
We could make a grid and sort people on it with these.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I think the human ego structure is similar all over the globe generally but the outside influences it. So the neurosis in the modern world will be different than in the third world.

It's even worse in the third world, that's where you'll meet the craziest people.
Third world is not the natural human tribal way of life, it's developed sedentary societies where people live modern wage labor but without being paid "well", are poorly fed since birth, live in unsanitary conditions and are influenced by belligerent cults. (Islam, Hinduism, Voodoo...)

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Doesn’t mean a heavier ego. More comfortable lifestyles allow for more self absorption and self centeredness rather than being occupied by survival so more time alone in the head overthinking is possible and all kinds of neurosis’s. 
 

Yep.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

What you describe as a more “simple” psyche is what I would also describe as a more “extroverted” psyche so someone being more focused on the immediate outside world rather than inward in their heads.

The problem is not being introverted, the problem is having a stressful ego.
My mother is extroverted and has a heavier ego than you or me, my father is introverted but he has a very simple ego.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You seem not to use the ego to describe the human self overall (which I do) but as more of an aspect of the self, like self absorption and self centeredness/inwardness 

I am talking about the human self, when I talk about neurotic tendencies for example it is indeed a characteristic of the self, but it is also a constituent in its own right, there is no difference.
And so in the end neurotic people have a bigger sense of self, a bigger ego as we understand it in the "spiritual" sense of the term than those who are not.
Even if I am very functional today I have a fundamentally quite heavy ego and that is probably what induces so much fear when I try 5 Meo DMT, i highly assume.

Or rather, despite the fractal structure, I don't see the ego as a "bubble" with a heart but rather as a canvas, with sections that are particularly more or less relaxed, more or less complex, and more or less solid.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can relate to ego suppressing empathy. It’s like when we are caught up in a negative thought train about how someone did something bad that it overpowers the empathy and understanding we could have for them 

Eheh no what i mean is more than that.

A person with a heavy enough ego will be less empathetic than another person no matter what they feel, and the heaviness of the ego is based on the beliefs that structure the ego.

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s cool you experienced that on lsd. It was maybe because it softened your ego.

 

Yes but still less funny than turning into a planet 🫨

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You don’t have to respond to all of this I’m just writing from my own mind a little expression

Dw.

Don't hesitate if i need to clarify things i say.

[Sugarcoat]

On 2025-01-15 at 0:32 PM, Schizophonia said:

 

I'm not stuck, i just take pleasure simping talking to you and you are difficult to replace.

There are plenty of normies i could easily win over but there would be no point in doing so outside of sex.

If you would push me away i would just shrug and give Willy another direction, for now he cares enough about his slavic alien so I'm taking advantage of it to have fun.

Ahah, no that's the hot part

I take that as a compliment. Very sweet of you to say.

”If you would push me away I would just shrug” 

That’s good you feel secure in yourself to not really mind if I’d push you away (I won’t lol) 

On 2025-01-15 at 0:32 PM, Schizophonia said:

 

Sometimes I start discussions and I'm actually too lazy to continue, because the goal was mainly to show off my ideas, because I had a burst of interest or something like that.

I can also feel too lazy to respond elaborately sometimes. I tend to also wanna write in a “smart” way to not just give pointless replies without substance, I try at least. I also feel empty in my mind a lot, like it can be genuinely difficult to squeeze something out of it and create an elaborate reply

Btw the woman that dmd me responded at last. But it was a very short reply, as if she was just responding to be polite. She probably realized how “crazy” I was and had no interest in talking further lol maybe maybe not 😹

Edited yesterday at 08:53 PM by Sugarcoat

[Candle]

@Sugarcoat can you do a quick pm to me, I just have to ask one small question. I can't start the PM with you bcz I'm a newbie. 

[Schizophonia]

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I take that as a compliment. Very sweet of you to say.

That's honestly what i think.

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

”If you would push me away I would just shrug” 

That’s good you feel secure in yourself to not really mind if I’d push you away

No that's just a ~normale~ (as you would say) behaviour to have.

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

(I won’t lol) 

🤗

 

Drops his pants and sends a video of a sensual dance with a full erection to his Croatian doe on WhatsApp as a courtship display*

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can also feel too lazy to respond elaborately sometimes. I tend to also wanna write in a “smart” way to not just give pointless replies without substance, I try at least. I also feel empty in my mind a lot, like it can be genuinely difficult to squeeze something out of it and create an elaborate reply

Then, sometimes the only answers are simple, especially when the correspondent only exposes insecurities, cognitive dissonance, etc.

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Btw the woman that dmd me responded at last. But it was a very short reply, as if she was just responding to be polite. She probably realized how “crazy” I was and had no interest in talking further lol maybe maybe not 😹

She's not braver than us ahah

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Candle said:

@Sugarcoat can you do a quick pm to me, I just have to ask one small question. I can't start the PM with you bcz I'm a newbie. 

It's strange because >400 posts begins to be significant. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Candle]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

It's strange because >400 posts begins to be significant. 

Ya I know. I post daily 20 and hit my limits daily.

20 is the limit for newbies. In one month, limit will increase. 

I followed 250 members who had 1000+ posts. Then I mass unfollowed everyone (except few). By multiple selection.

Bcz I got a lot of notifications from 250 members. 

But I am gonna follow you again. 

[Sugarcoat]

On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

Think about it : There isn't even a way to know how you look like in nature !  The only times you would even vaguely know what you look like would be when looking in the reflection of a body of water. There is also no fashion, no makeup, and we wouldn't even have the same physical appearance due to differences in living standards. And then of course there is survival which distracts our attention.

And everything changed like that, but not our DNA ans so CNS. 

I wonder how much of beauty obsession is biological vs societal 

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On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

Sadghuru said we would be happy if we if they remove half of our brains lol.

You spend your life on youtube so i'm sure you've seen it.

 

No ive not heard it. I dont watch YouTube much. But he has a point. 

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On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

I think ego density is the biggest characteristic that determines a person's personality along with their mobility (hypomania vs stability).
We could make a grid and sort people on it with these.

 

Im conflicted in wether I believe people have approximately the same ego density but just variation in content (for example positive vs negative ego) or if people have different ego density. 

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On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

The problem is not being introverted, the problem is having a stressful ego.
My mother is extroverted and has a heavier ego than you or me, my father is introverted but he has a very simple ego.

 

I see

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On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

I am talking about the human self, when I talk about neurotic tendencies for example it is indeed a characteristic of the self, but it is also a constituent in its own right, there is no difference.
And so in the end neurotic people have a bigger sense of self, a bigger ego as we understand it in the "spiritual" sense of the term than those who are not.
Even if I am very functional today I have a fundamentally quite heavy ego and that is probably what induces so much fear when I try 5 Meo DMT, i highly assume.

Or rather, despite the fractal structure, I don't see the ego as a "bubble" with a heart but rather as a canvas, with sections that are particularly more or less relaxed, more or less complex, and more or less solid.

 

Ok i see. I dont know if I agree. The self can be very positive like a charming funny self that is still a very big self, identified with those positive qualities, like all kinds of positive ego boosts. But yea maybe neurotic people have bigger egos than those who are not. 

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On 2025-01-15 at 1:02 PM, Schizophonia said:

Eheh no what i mean is more than that.

A person with a heavy enough ego will be less empathetic than another person no matter what they feel, and the heaviness of the ego is based on the beliefs that structure the ego.

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ok i see. I dont have much to add as I said my mind is quite empty a lot

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

That's honestly what i think.

Aw

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

No that's just a ~normale~ (as you would say) behaviour to have.

Not everyone is that secure in themselves 

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Drops his pants and sends a video of a sensual dance with a full erection to his Croatian doe on WhatsApp as a courtship display*

 

I sincerely (no pun intended) hope that mods don’t read my journal 😹😹

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Then, sometimes the only answers are simple, especially when the correspondent only exposes insecurities, cognitive dissonance, etc.

She's not braver than us ahah

I try to keep answers as short and simple as I can. 
 

Don’t know what you mean by that last sentence but it’s fine