Random thoughts

[Schizophonia]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Schizophonia I’m answering here because I don’t wanna derail the thread

Yes you're right.

[Sugarcoat]

19 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes you're right.

👍🏻

[Sugarcoat]

52:

Are you ready to give yourself up?

All you’ve ever experienced is what is right in front of you. Thoughts, sights, sounds, not even those things, the immediate appearance.

How come then when you for example read the news you really feel like there’s a real world out there with real events and people?

How come when you are in history class you really feel like there’s a past with real people and real events? And why can’t you shake this seeming sense of reality?
 

How come you can discuss all these topics in the forum and feel like it’s all real?

Because you have a self. That’s it. The self is the basis for everything. It’s the sense of I’m here and the world is out there. Real solidity here creates real solidity out there. This one separation, this one border between you and the rest gives rise to all else meaning. 
 

You can talk shit about this but are you really ready to give it all up? Because it includes everything, all your meaning making, all your sense of a society existing and events happening and people existing. All relating, relationships etc. It all goes down the drain.

All your discussing about this and that and feeling like what you’re discussing is real. Are you really ready to give up your entire reality? Because that is what you give up if you give up your self. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

23 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

52:

Are you ready to give yourself up?

All you’ve ever experienced is what is right in front of you. Thoughts, sights, sounds, not even those things, the immediate appearance.

How come then when you for example read the news you really feel like there’s a real world out there with real events and people?

How come when you are in history class you really feel like there’s a past with real people and real events? And why can’t you shake this seeming sense of reality?
 

How come you can discuss all these topics in the forum and feel like it’s all real?

Because you have a self. That’s it. The self is the basis for everything. It’s the sense of I’m here and the world is out there. Real solidity here creates real solidity out there. This one separation, this one border between you and the rest gives rise to all else meaning. 
 

You can talk shit about this but are you really ready to give it all up? Because it includes everything, all your meaning making, all your sense of a society existing and events happening and people existing. All relating, relationships etc. It all goes down the drain.

All your discussing about this and that and feeling like what you’re discussing is real. Are you really ready to give up your entire reality? Because that is what you give up if you give up your self. 

Is it like being stuck in a dream?

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Is it like being stuck in a dream?

What is?

[Sugarcoat]

53:

As I’m writing this I barely feel like I exist. I have the thinnest sense of existence. It’s so vague. I wish I had a normal functioning ego. I really do. There’s some flaws to it such as all the tension that comes with it that is like knots in the physical body too, contributing to illness, this I have experienced myself when I had more of my ego left. But it is so much better than this half assed barely real existence. I guess I will never know what a normal existence is. I see it all around me but I can never grasp it nor imagine it, even if I try. 

[Candle]

@Sugarcoat why do you feel so? Why don't you feel like normal humans? Have you taken psychedelics or do u have any mental issue? Tell me the reason. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Candle

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Candle said:

@Sugarcoat why do you feel so? Why don't you feel like normal humans? Have you taken psychedelics or do u have any mental issue? Tell me the reason. 

Mental issues. I’ve tried psychedelics but they didn’t change anything for me.

[Candle]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Mental issues. I’ve tried psychedelics but they didn’t change anything for me.

🫂❤️

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Candle said:

🫂❤️

Thanks

[Sugarcoat]

54 : 

I remember in my past I used to be kinda intimidated by this forum because there’s so many grown seemingly “developed” men here. Now I don’t give a fuaq 😹😹😹😹 I could post whatever

 

Growth

Edited December 30, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

52:

Are you ready to give yourself up?

All you’ve ever experienced is what is right in front of you. Thoughts, sights, sounds, not even those things, the immediate appearance.

How come then when you for example read the news you really feel like there’s a real world out there with real events and people?

How come when you are in history class you really feel like there’s a past with real people and real events? And why can’t you shake this seeming sense of reality?
 

How come you can discuss all these topics in the forum and feel like it’s all real?

Because you have a self. That’s it. The self is the basis for everything. It’s the sense of I’m here and the world is out there. Real solidity here creates real solidity out there. This one separation, this one border between you and the rest gives rise to all else meaning. 
 

You can talk shit about this but are you really ready to give it all up? Because it includes everything, all your meaning making, all your sense of a society existing and events happening and people existing. All relating, relationships etc. It all goes down the drain.

All your discussing about this and that and feeling like what you’re discussing is real. Are you really ready to give up your entire reality? Because that is what you give up if you give up your self. 

So true. Everything is lost. It can feel terrifying. You "pinch" yourself back to reality. You're like wtf are you doing, get back here. Many times I've intuited things even though it's not really an intuition but something tells me things. Hard to explain. Then I'll experience something in everyday life that's weird and gives you a sense of "fakeness", like it didn't really happen, or it was kind of mystical or a strange happening. Life's weird. That's all i keep telling myself. Something weird is happening here.

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

So true. Everything is lost. It can feel terrifying. You "pinch" yourself back to reality. You're like wtf are you doing, get back here. Many times I've intuited things even though it's not really an intuition but something tells me things. Hard to explain. Then I'll experience something in everyday life that's weird and gives you a sense of "fakeness", like it didn't really happen, or it was kind of mystical or a strange happening. Life's weird. That's all i keep telling myself. Something weird is happening here.

I ~almost~ lost myself and it felt like almost losing reality so that’s what inspired me to write it. 
 

Life can be so weird yea

[Ishanga]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I ~almost~ lost myself and it felt like almost losing reality so that’s what inspired me to write it. 
 

Life can be so weird yea

Life is not really weird, its just most of Us are living via Experience on the surface level of it, just accumulating and gathering, we want more experience, more $$, more relationships, more knowing, more and more and more, this is a natural by the way, this is Desire, but we identify with a Body and Mind (thoughts, emotions, thinking, ideology) and via that identification, we only accumulate in a certain way, mostly physical, 5 sense organ gratification sort of way, most everything everyone is desiring is based on one of the sense organs, just look at it.. Now this is low level of Awareness, Survival Level of Living Life (Life is Absolute being Manifested and Realized in a Form of Sorts, on this dual, material, karmic planet), as Humans we have way more Potential.. 

Its like stating something is a Miracle! If You were to bring a person from 500yrs ago, even 100yrs ago and bring them into the society of today and show them the technology we are using, they would say it is a Miracle, but it is not really, its just Science being discovered (Reality being uncovered, or being put into Awareness), and then Usage of it being Applied to practical use, that is what Technology is, so it is the same with Living this Life, as Humans we can live way beyond Survival Level, whereas all other life forms are stuck in Survival Level, so once You go on this path, what seems like a Miracle to You if Your a Newbie, is normal if You've been into it for awhile, we get Used to Peace, Happiness, Intensity of Experience, Clarity and even Bliss, You want to eventually go beyond all of this, and be Liberated, but don't even think about that until You get the Peace thing down pat, as a normal Life Experience, if Your not at that level Yet, don't be concerned with Liberation or Enlightenment.. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Ishanga

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Life is not really weird, its just most of Us are living via Experience on the surface level of it, just accumulating and gathering, we want more experience, more $$, more relationships, more knowing, more and more and more, this is a natural by the way, this is Desire, but we identify with a Body and Mind (thoughts, emotions, thinking, ideology) and via that identification, we only accumulate in a certain way, mostly physical, 5 sense organ gratification sort of way, most everything everyone is desiring is based on one of the sense organs, just look at it.. Now this is low level of Awareness, Survival Level of Living Life (Life is Absolute being Manifested and Realized in a Form of Sorts, on this dual, material, karmic planet), as Humans we have way more Potential.. 

Its like stating something is a Miracle! If You were to bring a person from 500yrs ago, even 100yrs ago and bring them into the society of today and show them the technology we are using, they would say it is a Miracle, but it is not really, its just Science being discovered (Reality being uncovered, or being put into Awareness), and then Usage of it being Applied to practical use, that is what Technology is, so it is the same with Living this Life, as Humans we can live way beyond Survival Level, whereas all other life forms are stuck in Survival Level, so once You go on this path, what seems like a Miracle to You if Your a Newbie, is normal if You've been into it for awhile, we get Used to Peace, Happiness, Intensity of Experience, Clarity and even Bliss, You want to eventually go beyond all of this, and be Liberated, but don't even think about that until You get the Peace thing down pat, as a normal Life Experience, if Your not at that level Yet, don't be concerned with Liberation or Enlightenment.. 

So basically you think one has to come to peace with life first before striving for liberation?

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

So basically you think one has to come to peace with life first before striving for liberation?

Yes, How can You even go in the direction if Your emotionally up and down everyday, so first baby steps, get to be Peaceful Naturally, then go from there, if Your Volition is to go all the way, then it will happen naturally, with less force and more Ease.  

If You go the Suffering route, then its a dbl edge sword, Suffering is also Intensity of Experience, but if You cannot handle it then You won't come back from the Suffering, you'll drowned in it, so I wouldn't recommend going that route.. 

Your obviously interested in Spiritual Path and such things, so first Establish Peace as Your Natural Experience, don't think or be concerned with anything else besides that, then when that is set you'll naturally go further..

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, How can You even go in the direction if Your emotionally up and down everyday, so first baby steps, get to be Peaceful Naturally, then go from there, if Your Volition is to go all the way, then it will happen naturally, with less force and more Ease.  

If You go the Suffering route, then its a dbl edge sword, Suffering is also Intensity of Experience, but if You cannot handle it then You won't come back from the Suffering, you'll drowned in it, so I wouldn't recommend going that route.. 

Your obviously interested in Spiritual Path and such things, so first Establish Peace as Your Natural Experience, don't think or be concerned with anything else besides that, then when that is set you'll naturally go further..

That sounds reasonable 

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

What is?

Forget it, i was trying to imagine how it could feel.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Forget it, i was trying to imagine how it could feel.

How I have it?

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

How I have it?

Yes.