Are you a new ager?

[Identity]

@integral Haha, daym, looks like you’re crossing boundaries I aint ready for yet.

Agreed though; underwear?
Silly restraining invention 😝

[Schizophonia]

What does that means ?

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

What does that means ?

How it feels to read what u write. Got a taste of your own medicine 

[Sugarcoat]

No I’m crazier than that actually 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

I consider myself a New-Ager, but only because my definition of New Age is a catch-all-term for spiritual but not religious, individualist spirituality where the practitioner doesn't cling to one tradition.

[UnbornTao]

On 8/29/2024 at 8:05 AM, Identity said:

@UnbornTao and yes, the possibility to eliminate beliefs sounds great. Yet, when you’re in a conversation with someone, words are still being said, right? 
However awake, detached, loose, the ideas are held, surely there is still some general philosophy that acts as your operating system?

These examples are symptoms of the underlying idea;

No matter how deeply one gets grounded into nothingness, there will still be some form that appears, right?

That’s actually what I’ve been really enjoying about the tantric perspective. Yes, be deeply rooted in the formless. But don’t reject the form, fully infuse your consciousness into that form. Feel it. Live it. Live the human experience.

What are genuine experience and conjecture? The difference between these is often overlooked.

You are extrapolating with the formless thing. "No-belief" as a state is not a negative and a lack of something; it empowers rather than diminishes. You'd still be able to operate and interact free from belief's domination. Whenever a belief is let go of, your presence is freed and somehow becomes more authentic.

Edited September 12 by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, Basman said:

I'm not a new-agey. I just like Tony Robbins style self-help and understanding. I don't consider myself a spiritual person.

What do you consider new-age exactly?

 

15 hours ago, Basman said:

If self-help/spirituality isn't practical somehow then I discount it, and I'm right in doing that 9 times out of 10.

What is "practical spirituality"?

[Salvijus]

Everyone on this forum is a new ager if you ask me. 

[Schizophonia]

15 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How it feels to read what u write. Got a taste of your own medicine 

I admit. 

[UnbornTao]

On 8/30/2024 at 4:12 AM, Carl-Richard said:

Exactly. Even if you're all aboard the formless train, when you profess that to other people and practice it in your own life, that looks like something (it has a form), because you're indeed a formed human being. And whether you prefer to practice it alone in your closet with a YouTube video running in the background or in a monastery with deeply trained and knowledgeable masters, that's form too.

You can indeed reach the formless despite the presence of multiple egoic forms in the same room, or despite deriving practices and principles strictly from one kind of doctrine like a good religious boy. In fact, sometimes that is even the better alternative (in my opinion). And in fact, it's really unavoidable: the only question is if you indeed prefer your own eclectic mix or the original package (or the mix that you got passed down from some other eclectic talking head on YouTube, like the good religious boy you are).

We should work on this concept vs actuality business, and on principles.

Seeking out what's true is a different approach to what you guys are bringing up.

Edited September 12 by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

44 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

We should work on this concept vs actuality business, and on principles.

You can do that without giving up describing things.

[UnbornTao]

On 8/31/2024 at 4:18 PM, Carl-Richard said:

You can do that without giving up describing things.

Describing a dynamic is different from what you did above, I'd say. Why bring up this formless-nothingness subject? Is that what you guys presume eliminating a belief entails? 

It's more like having your cup emptied––being open. The cup (your experience) doesn't go away.

Edited September 12 by UnbornTao

[Basman]

21 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

 

What is "practical spirituality"?

oxymoron I guess, my bad.

[Basman]

Personally, I consider New-Ageism merely a sub-culture.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Personally, I consider New-Ageism merely a sub-culture.

That's the norm. But if you ask an academic like the guy in the video, it's generally a much wider category.

[Letho]

Self-referentiality.

[Keryo Koffa]

On 9/1/2024 at 0:45 AM, Carl-Richard said:

That's the norm. But if you ask an academic like the guy in the video, it's generally a much wider category.

If you ask the academic, yoga = new age, dance = emotions = culture = irrational = new age

[Ero]

I would say both my personality and life purpose are at a strong opposition with New Age beliefs/ social Dynamics, despite having extremely strong spiritual experiences, dozens of trips, and a very deep love for nature.

I cannot stand conformity and could care less about being part of a group. I am open to and have experienced paranormal/ siddhis. But as someone highly-technical, the new age thinking and rhetoric on these topics is just making me cringe.
 

I seek understanding, so I can engineer the next paradigm. I work 9-10h days with passion and could care less about “going with the flow”.

[Keryo Koffa]

18 minutes ago, Ero said:

I'm linked in the transcendental stuff but not the conformity
As a high-tech dude, new-age rhetoric makes me cringe.
I wanna make my own stuff!

I agree, the new age is

severely lacking in the

science department,

let's transcend & include

and then integrate both.

And transcend that also.

Edited September 12 by Keryo Koffa

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

I

Schizo poster