Eternal fucking silence

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

In such a state, I would speedrun all the greatest personal significances, life paths, profound questions, and so forth, seeing them from a meta-perspective is pretty transformative, a big part of my trips was to hold objects, ideas, sensations, and memories dear to me, and see them from a meta angle to expand, integrate or dismiss, whatever was authentic in the expanded state of mind.

All of what you are saying means nothing in this state there is no transformation its all imaginary nothing changes even if you get billions of dollars or greatest ideas...

[NoSelfSelf]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

I’ve been thinking that too that, how it seems spontaneously happen for some , although maybe practice helps too

Yeah "ive been doing it for a decade then stop" because on psychadelics i saw ill lose attachment to the body then "i" dropped it all to pursue thing like game which now is all collapsed 😆

So its working hard but then you see nobody was working hard at all really weird

[Keryo Koffa]

Just now, NoSelfSelf said:

All of what you are saying means nothing in this state there is no transformation its all imaginary nothing changes even if you get billions of dollars or greatest ideas...

That's true!-ish. I am more so talking about internal drives though. We still are and come back into the experience, and then it's back to "why don't I always naturally feel this way?"  and then when you end up in that state again, it's "ah, everything was always perfect (except when you aren't in it)"

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah "ive been doing it for a decade then stop" because on psychadelics i saw ill lose attachment to the body then "i" dropped it all to pursue thing like game which now is all collapsed 😆

So its working hard but then you see nobody was working hard at all really weird

Damn . We will see how this changes your writing from now on. Do you think it’s something permanent or will the self come back? I think it’s pretty cool what you’re describing 

[NoSelfSelf]

Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

That's true!-ish. I am more so talking about internal drives though. We still are and come back into the experience, and then it's back to "why don't I always naturally feel this way?"  and then when you end up in that state again, it's "ah, everything was always perfect (except when you aren't in it)"

Yeah this is more like stateless state as sages calls it its state beyond states idk how to say it better

[Keryo Koffa]

1 minute ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah this is more like stateless state as sages calls it its state beyond states idk how to say it better

maybe it's a fools game, but I'm trying to bridge both. One might say the very process creates separation, but it'd be cool if you could navigate in and out through a web of associations or like a 5 minute breath technique or something that you establish in this state and bind back into the other, like some form of conscious control to be able to get there without luck and chance

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Damn . We will see how this changes your writing from now on. Do you think it’s something permanent or will the self come back? I think it’s pretty cool what you’re describing 

Thats always the thing with every natural awakening you dont know, but i experienced more than dozens of awakenings and each one pushes you more and more to the source.So its like now i got pushed further even if it comes back.In like 15 years ill be in full blown 5meo trip by sipping beer 😂

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

maybe it's a fools game, but I'm trying to bridge both. One might say the very process creates separation, but it'd be cool if you could navigate in and out through a web of associations or like a 5 minute breath technique or something that you establish in this state and bind back into the other, like some form of conscious control to be able to get there without luck and chance

There is just what is you cant navigate or wish it to happen thats ego fairy tale point is why one cant reach the state its because you want to reach it.

Immidiet insight you get is that wanting to be joyful is reason why you are not its mindbending..

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Thats always the thing with every natural awakening you dont know, but i experienced more than dozens of awakenings and each one pushes you more and more to the source.So its like now i got pushed further even if it comes back.In like 15 years ill be in full blown 5meo trip by sipping beer 😂

lol cool. U really living up to your name 

[NoSelfSelf]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

lol cool. U really living up to your name 

More like NoCreativitySelf when you dont know what to call yourself online.

[Keryo Koffa]

5 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

There is just what is you cant navigate or wish it to happen thats ego fairy tale point is why one cant reach the state its because you want to reach it.

Immidiet insight you get is that wanting to be joyful is reason why you are not its mindbending..

You remind me of my trip at the start of December that I recorded a part of 😁, to cite:

"So I could use this for productivity, become a millionaire or something, being so efficient like po-po-po-po-pow
But while you're actually on that state of mind none of it matters, it's all so stupid!
When you're fully in touch with existence, emotions, senses, your entire body, what it means to exist in this world...
You're like: Fu*k that shit! Screw productivity You can do that when you come down
You can do that when you can deal with infinite bullshit. When you aren't so freaking awake and aware
Then you can actually do that. Then you can actually do some bullshit, some chores, some stuff and you can be a millionaire
But when you're in the state of mind of infinite love [you get the point]!"

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

More like NoCreativitySelf when you dont know what to call yourself online.

I think your name is one of the best here 

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

You remind me of my trip at the start of December that I recorded a part of 😁, to cite:

"So I could use this for productivity, become a millionaire or something, being so efficient like po-po-po-po-pow
But while you're actually on that state of mind none of it matters, it's all so stupid!
When you're fully in touch with existence, emotions, senses, your entire body, what it means to exist in this world...
You're like: Fu*k that shit! Screw productivity You can do that when you come down
You can do that when you can deal with infinite bullshit. When you aren't so freaking awake and aware
Then you can actually do that. Then you can actually do some bullshit, some chores, some stuff and you can be a millionaire
But when you're in the state of mind of infinite love [you get the point]!"

I wouldnt say stupid but i get the point, its just an exeprience of the source like i was thinking that riding a horse would be cool, just as different pov but at the end of the day it doesnt add up because there is no person to get imapcted by the experience if that makes sense..thinking is also different because thinking doesnt stick its floating and dissapears as soon as it appears

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I think your name is one of the best here 

Thanks but it doesnt have sugar in it, so its not spice and everything nice 😁

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, NoSelfSelf said:

Thanks but it doesnt have sugar in it, so its not spice and everything nice 😁

Hehe

[Keryo Koffa]

Just now, NoSelfSelf said:

I wouldnt say stupid but i get the point, its just an exeprience of the source like i was thinking that riding a horse would be cool, just as different pov but at the end of the day it doesnt add up because there is no person to get imapcted by the experience if that makes sense..thinking is also different because thinking doesnt stick its floating and dissapears as soon as it appears

That thought annihilation part is kinda funny. Usually, we ponder questions, but in this state of mind, you realize you're making up the questions with the answers already implied and the intention crystal clear. Also, everything turns into omniscient telepathy, you look and can instantly tell what is happening because you realize you're constructing it. It's really something nothing infinithing?

[NoSelfSelf]

Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

That thought annihilation part is kinda funny. Usually, we ponder questions, but in this state of mind, you realize you're making up the questions with the answers already implied and the intention crystal clear. Also, everything turns into omniscient telepathy, you look and can instantly tell what is happening because you realize you're constructing it. It's really something nothing infinithing?

Yeah if its not alligned with the truth its seen as just human thing that humans do construction to survive..

[Keryo Koffa]

3 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Thanks but it doesnt have sugar in it, so its not spice and everything nice 😁

Ah yes, the most important ingredients

Sugar, spice and everything nice! And...

You forgot Chemical X!

[Keryo Koffa]

2 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah if its not alligned with the truth its seen as just human thing that humans do construction to survive..

Hmmmm? What if it is? Can you tell me some more about the Truth?

[NoSelfSelf]

4 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Hmmmm? What if it is? Can you tell me some more about the Truth?

It cant be said its what is and it never changes,its same now as it will be same billion years from now while falsehood will change into all kinds of new constructions..

Edited August 24 by NoSelfSelf