God paradox?

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

Says who? Speak for yourself lmao

The fact that rapists exists means that rape is desireable. Duh.

And let's not even mention the overabundance of people who feel undisclosed rape fantasies

To claim that rape is desirable because there are individuals who commit such acts is a dangerous and incorrect conclusion. Rape is an act of violence and coercion that causes immense suffering and trauma for the victim. It is not an act that anyone wishes to experience or that has any form of legitimate desirability.

The existence of individuals who commit rape reflects not a general desire or acceptance of the act, but rather a gross deviation from ethical and moral norms. Rape is criminal and immoral because it violates another person's bodily autonomy and integrity.

Furthermore, rape is a deeply traumatic experience that can lead to long-term psychological and physical consequences for the victim, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression, and anxiety. To claim that rape is desirable in any way trivializes these serious consequences and ignores the suffering of the victims.

It is also important to distinguish between fantasies and real actions. Even if some individuals may have fantasies involving dominance or submission, this does not mean they wish for these fantasies to be realized in reality, especially not through coercion or violence.

[Spiritual Warfare]

@Leo Gura 

Rape/Molestation is an act of coercion, violence, and power that violates another person's integrity and autonomy. Love, on the other hand, is based on consent, respect, and care for the other person's well-being. Rape is the opposite of love, as it involves forcing oneself on another person without regard for their will and feelings. Love entails respecting and valuing the other person's boundaries and autonomy. Being raped/molested means these fundamental principles are violated in a deeply harmful way. 

I am deeply sorry for what you have gone through. Being subjected to rape/molestation is an incredibly painful and traumatic experience, and I want you to know that your feelings and experiences are valid.

It's common to feel confusion and uncertainty about what happened, especially when it comes to understanding and processing such a traumatic event. Sometimes it can be difficult to see or accept that what happened was wrong, particularly if the perpetrator was someone you knew or trusted.

However, it is important to emphasize that rape is never right. Regardless of the circumstances, it is never okay for someone to force themselves on you without your consent. Your worth and your boundaries always deserve to be respected.

You are strong and brave and not alone.

Edited August 27 by MarioGabrielJ

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

Your assertion that acts such as rape occur due to a lack of consciousness and alignment is indeed a profound observation. However, attributing such acts solely to unconsciousness might oversimplify the complex interplay of psychological, social, and environmental factors that contribute to such behavior. While a higher state of consciousness might reduce the likelihood of committing harmful acts, it does not fully account for the myriad influences that can drive someone to commit such atrocities.

Moreover, suggesting that higher consciousness is the sole remedy for preventing such acts could inadvertently imply that victims or society at large are responsible for not elevating the perpetrator's consciousness. This can be a problematic stance, as it overlooks the need for systemic changes, mental health interventions, and social justice measures to address and prevent such acts.

If heightened consciousness and alignment can prevent such harmful acts, what practical steps can we take as individuals and as a society to cultivate this higher state of consciousness? How do we address the underlying psychological, social, and environmental factors that contribute to such behavior?

Thank you CHATGPT

[gettoefl]

rape is certainly a state of consciousness, fairly animalistic but easily embodiable

you deem yourself all-deserving and others are denied any say so in this matter

what you want is what you take

it's been a common state historically speaking and there are plenty on board with it today

the whole mentality of paying for sex is arguably this state

it makes it more nicey-nice and almost humanizing in that one rapes the other of their body and the other rapes one of their wallet

one person's rape is another person's reap

fare exchange is no rapery

Edited August 27 by gettoefl

[Spiritual Warfare]

20 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Thank you CHATGPT

Great, know listen to it, apparently you don’t listen to me (;

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

rape is certainly a state of consciousness, fairly animalistic but easily embodiable

you deem yourself all-deserving and others are denied any say so in this matter

what you want is what you take

it's been a common state historically speaking and there are plenty on board with it today

the whole mentality of paying for sex is arguably this state

it makes it more nicey-nice and almost humanizing in that one rapes the other of their body and the other rapes one of their wallet

fare exchange is no rapery

Its not just a state of consciousness but an act of violence and domination!

Edited August 27 by MarioGabrielJ

[gettoefl]

Just now, MarioGabrielJ said:

Its not just a state state of consciousness but an act of violence and domination!

which is some people's consciousness as we can see all around us

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

which is some people's consciousness as we can see all around us

Just because certain behaviours exist dosen’t  mean they right or should be tolerated. Just because something is common does not make it right. Choose respect over harm (;

Edited August 27 by MarioGabrielJ

[gettoefl]

10 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

Just because certain behaviours exist dosen’t  mean they right or should be tolerated. Just because something is common does not make it right. Choose respect over harm (;

consciousness is zero to do with morality or even one's biases

you are allowing yourself to be triggered by things which exist and flourish and disturb you because you have a unresolved shadow

[Spiritual Warfare]

9 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

consciousness is zero to do with morality or even one's biases

you are allowing yourself to be triggered by things which exist and flourish and disturb you because you have a unresolved shadow

Consciousness involves being aware of our thoughts and feelings, which allows us to reflect on and question our actions and beliefs. When we become aware of our biases, we can actively work to change them. Therefore, consciousness can serve as a catalyst for moral development. It's not just about managing a "shadow," but using consciousness to create a more aware and ethical world.

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

Consciousness involves being aware of our thoughts and feelings, which allows us to reflect on and question our actions and beliefs. When we become aware of our biases, we can actively work to change them. Therefore, consciousness can serve as a catalyst for moral development. It's not just about managing a "shadow," but using consciousness to create a more aware and ethical world.

you are conflating personal development with spiritual growth

latter is we are all the same, former is i am making something unique distinct and impactful with my life

consciousness is, knowing we are the same, what is the limit to our potential

[Javfly33]

40 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

which is some people's consciousness as we can see all around us

yeap

Is so deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness to both sides, some days ago some beautiful intelligent women confessed to me that she has fantasies of being raped or forced.

Not that is nothing new for women´s fantasies, but it just confirms the consciousness structure of the dream, not good still. 

[James123]

1 hour ago, gettoefl said:

you are conflating personal development with spiritual growth

Personal growth self development. Spritual growth self killing.

[Keryo Koffa]

41 minutes ago, James123 said:

Personal growth self development. Spritual growth self killing.

and transcendent growth is self-exploration

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

and transcendent growth is self-exploration

It can become really depressed🤪

[Keryo Koffa]

2 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

It can become really depressed🤪

personal depression = I fail to evolve | spiritual depression = I'm not empty enough | transcendent depression = *sad vibes*

[Nivsch]

21 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

If everything is love, isn’t being biased against rape is one out of infinite expressions of God’s love as well?

Nice point

[ICURBlessings]

28 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

If everything is love, isn’t being biased against rape is one out of infinite expressions of God’s love as well?

If everything and everyone is love, then any emotional reaction or opinion to child rape is love, isn’t it?

One aspect of God allowing child rape out of love while another part criticizes it out of love. 

Do all love equals? Is raping or torturing a child is as loving as raising, protecting him and nurturing him to be a healthy functional adult?

Is there healthier love than another? 
The only love I see in raping a child is the love of the rapist for their own lust. Lust is very low vibrational emotion. 
 

Lila9 I can see you are struggling to make sense or figure out a reasoning that holds from words such as "... rape is an absolute aspect of Infinity..."

It is impossible to come-up with a sound reasoning because first of all 'rape' is not an absolute - period. This kind of statement, if it was coming from a member of this forum, I would not even give it a second thought. It is only because Leo is the 'author' of this forum that I reflected on this statement. Before 2 days ago I did not even know how  Leo conceive of Reality. I came to this forum knowing nothing of Leo's teachings. So I had to look for some of his videos to find out.

he appear to believe that, all  experiences of perception, that they be of torture or rape or pleasures of the flesh or anything that has occurred within the human field of perception ...is an absolute aspect of Infinity... therefore is an absolute aspect of God...

My spiritual experiences have brought me to a fundamentally different conception of the human experience and of the process of Self-Realization. 

Edited August 27 by ICURBlessings

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

If everything is love, isn’t being biased against rape is one out of infinite expressions of God’s love as well?

Yes, of course.

Flinging shit like a baboon is also an expression of God's Love. But flinging shit will not help you realize God's Love.

The only reason I talk here is to help people understand reality at deeper levels. Well, that and for my personal entertainment.

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If everything and everyone is love, then any emotional reaction or opinion to child rape is love, isn’t it?

Have whatever reaction you want.

But existential understanding it is not.

Edited August 27 by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

41 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, that and for my personal entertainment.

Lol.😂 

Leo ..whats next for actualized channel..? did you run out of ideas ? you seriously can't keep rambling for 3 hrs about god and how reality is nothing anymore right ?

And you seem to enjoy your time on this forum .have at it .you’ve achievd gtreat success in your career and  finance that you have enough time for fooling around online. In a sense i envy you .

maybe Research the shit out of some random niche topicd until you find an interesting one. Dude I missed your videos. I only watch them for the entertainment they give me . 

Edited August 27 by Someone here