I don't believe in radical solipsism

[yetineti]

@Ishanga Nobody said this was practical. Then again, it depends on what you’re trying to do.

If you want to understand, create or maybe even heal - this could be practical.

Mostly will drive you mad, otherwise. This is why I talk about this on this forum and not with strangers.

Don’t make what’s practical the truth. The truth is not practical. Unless it is.

 

Edited August 25 by yetineti

[Ishanga]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Solipism is not a thing you "buy into". Either you are conscious that you imagine everything or you are not.

The cool thing about being Human is that we can do whatever, be conscious of that I am the only thing in existence, imagining everything else, or I am a part of everything else, connected to it and Inclusive in Experience with it, that is the choice, its all potential and possibility, not just one or the other, we can choose!

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Ishanga Nobody said this was practical. Then again, it depends on what you’re trying to do.

If you want to understand, create or maybe even heal - this could be practical.

Mostly will drive you made otherwise. This is why I talk about this on this forum and not with strangers.

Don’t make what’s practical the truth. The truth is not practical. Unless it is.

 

i said it was practical, or that practicality is a part of the whole... If one is just an Absolutist then they miss the complete picture, if one is just a practicalist they miss it too, see the whole of it, on logical, discretionary POV there are levels to it all, but this pov just makes the separations more apparent and appealing, better to look at it holistically and with a Complete Overview, that is some ways we are one, there is only One, that is Fundamental Existence, Absolute, God Source, Grand Intelligence that allows all creation to appear and disappear, then there is You and Me, and the Dog Shit on the street left behind!

[yetineti]

@Ishanga 

You’ve reached incoherent levels of communication, from grammar to rational.

 

[Will1125]

38 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Drop a Large and Heavy Brick on Your foot, report back if the result of this experientially is an illusion or real for You???

Thats the point of illusion e

Edited August 25 by Will1125

[Max1993]

@LordFall If there is separation... How are you magically and permanently separate from me? You are not even separate from the air that comes from trees, those trees get sunlight from space. I can't even slide a paper between you and everything else. Dare I say taa daa? 

 

When everything is THAT connected its not even connected anymore it might as well be just ONE coherent thing. This is you. 

Edited August 25 by Max1993

[NoSelfSelf]

20 hours ago, LordFall said:

Per Leo's latest blog post on Ekajivavada and total solipsism basically saying that nothing exists outside of my experience? 

That makes no sense, no human could claim that. I have never invented a laptop yet I'm using one. Who came up with it? A being with a different life experience than me would be a completely different being regardless of how someone our consciousness is one. Non-duality as a whole makes no sense even if we are all one being on some level the different identities of that being are individual single human agents with different realities, life experiences and, effect on the world. 

 

When all stories you made up collapses then you can see it.Laptop is just a concept and what you see is created by god which happened by itself.

[OBEler]

@Ishanga You are not interested what truth is. That's ok. But here we talk about existential topics and not life advices.

I give you an analogy:

Imagine you would participate in a mad experiment, where you forget your whole life and now putting a VR headset on with an life simulator playing which becomes your new reality 24 hours. Then one NPC tells you that this is just a game. But you answer him your senses tell you it's not a game and hearing that's it all just a game sounds weird to you. You are just interested into how to collect more coins in the game, because that's all that matters. End of discussion. You will never discover that it was just a game (which for sure would also have practical implications).

 

Edited August 25 by OBEler

[ryandesreu]

17 hours ago, Ishanga said:

This makes  no sense at all.. My simple Senses tell me there are other ppl, obviously they have consciousness because they go thru the samethings as me, as everyone does, everyone breaths, sleeps, eats, shits, cries, laughs, loves, hates, etc etc,,,, to say its a dream, or that I do not know that this is really happening is a once again lame argument.. You and anyone replying to this or any message proves there are others with other experiences different from mine within this moment and with different intentions

What is the difference between knowing and believing? What assumptions are being made? Think deeply.

[Atb210201]

It's simple just don't say I built every TV on the planet

Say God did

And don't think of yourself as God say God also built me

Take God as your Creator and The Creator of the world and do not identify as God yourself

Just give credit to God for creation

That makes things so much easier to understand

Edited August 25 by Atb210201

[NoSelfSelf]

30 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

It's simple just don't say I built every TV on the planet

Say God did

And don't think of yourself as God say God also built me

Take God as your Creator and The Creator of the world and do not identify as God yourself

Just give credit to God for creation

That makes things so much easier to understand

Be careful to understand something that can be understood by seeing it and you see it by being open to not know it. This sounds too Zen it is what it is 😆

[Max1993]

@Atb210201 God is dreaming it is not God. If you are not God than who? God is not some secret club hidden away...

 

However yes, this character that feels like you and who "thinks" is not you, a temporary illusion that passes.

The self is a collection of thoughts about self, nothing more. 

 

God is all that is left. You are all that is left. You can still see signs from your higher self and follow the communication of God if you want,

doesn't mean God is not you. Where is this separation you speak of?

[Atb210201]

7 minutes ago, Max1993 said:

@Atb210201 God is dreaming it is not God. If you are not God than who? God is not some secret club hidden away...

 

However yes, this character that feels like you and who "thinks" is not you, a temporary illusion that passes.

The self is a collection of thoughts about self, nothing more. 

 

God is all that is left. You are all that is left. You can still see signs from your higher self and follow the communication of God if you want,

doesn't mean God is not you. Where is this separation you speak of?

I was just saying that for the solipsists to understand better and not feel lonely

Because the ego deceives us hugely all the time

It's better to separate God from yourself for that matter

In these cases it is better this way at least it was for me

Edited August 25 by Atb210201

[Max1993]

@Atb210201 I do agree with that. Only the ego could feel lonely. God is full. 

[Someone here]

Solipsism. Org. 

[legendary]

This topic does require a lot of maturity and radical open mindedness.
Just came across this: My sweet brother : https://www.reddit.com/r/5MeODMT/comments/1f0zxbs/my_sweet_brother/

Edited August 26 by legendary

[Ishanga]

18 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

What is the difference between knowing and believing? What assumptions are being made? Think deeply.

I know I have 5 fingers on each hand, its not a belief, its experiential, when someone picks up a belief more than likely its not experiential, its like ppl that pray to some God, they are asking for this or that, or for an answer to a "Why" Question, but how is this possible to question this so called Creator, who is supposedly Omni this and that, if that is so, why is this little human questioning them about what is happening in their life? So this is belief, they belief in an entity above them, but its not experiential, if it was they would not pray like this and ask why or for stuff, they would just live and when they pray they would give thanks, as who is more aware of reality, this God or themselves?

[OBEler]

8 hours ago, Ishanga said:

I know I have 5 fingers on each hand, its not a belief, its experiential, when someone picks up a belief more than likely its not experiential, its like ppl that pray to some God, they are asking for this or that, or for an answer to a "Why" Question, but how is this possible to question this so called Creator, who is supposedly Omni this and that, if that is so, why is this little human questioning them about what is happening in their life? So this is belief, they belief in an entity above them, but its not experiential, if it was they would not pray like this and ask why or for stuff, they would just live and when they pray they would give thanks, as who is more aware of reality, this God or themselves?

your writing style is really hard to read. Maybe use shorter sentences. Not endless comma.

Overall everyone should keep their answers short and on point. This sometimes needs a lot of editing but this forum has higher standards than reddit so please to all those people here (not just you) take this as a friendly reminder.

 

Edited August 26 by OBEler

[Keryo Koffa]

21 hours ago, Someone here said:

Solipsism. Org. 

Solipsist.dork (nothing personal, my imagination just went brrrrr and it fit 😅)