Attachment to women. What is behind it ?

[Javfly33]

On 21/8/2024 at 1:35 AM, Someone here said:

Its nothing to be ashamed of . You are a young straight guy so you have sexual and emotional attraction towards girls . Getting obsessed about texting is normal if you are a newbie or if that girl is a "bomb" aka incredibly attractive and you have fallen "in love " with her . So which one is it ?

It was beyond a bomb. It was a fucking nuclear bomb man @Someone here

On 21/8/2024 at 2:54 AM, Buck Edwards said:

It's not like women don't get attached. I was attached to a guy for almost a year long after the relationship had died. It's completely normal and you don't have to beat yourself up for it. Walk away from someone who doesn't deserve your attention. Be with someone who is equally invested with you. 

@Buck Edwards good words ☝️

 

[Javfly33]

@NoSelfSelf Funny thing is, as always happens with this women, when I stop caring about her/ignore her (not consciously, just because i was focused in other things) SHE WOULD COME BACK!!! And when i would start to grow attachment again, she would run. lol 

What im getting about this is, there is no shortcut with this scenarios, either one maintains itself in a place of equality or one suffers.

But the Worst thing is that to really be succesfull to this women one really have to see them as a bag of meat with no value at all. Then they come to you craving your attention because they see you are the few guys you are not giving attention to a 10/10 

This women was not Only physically very attractive also high IQ, i had learned a lot. Do not project value to anyone because we are all beings of equal value. The moment one projects value one is fucked.

 

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

@NoSelfSelf Funny thing is, as always happens with this women, when I stop caring about her/ignore her (not consciously, just because i was focused in other things) SHE WOULD COME BACK!!! And when i would start to grow attachment again, she would run. lol 

What im getting about this is, there is no shortcut with this scenarios, either one maintains itself in a place of equality or one suffers.

But the Worst thing is that to really be succesfull to this women one really have to see them as a bag of meat with no value at all. Then they come to you craving your attention because they see you are the few guys you are not giving attention to a 10/10 

This women was not Only physically very attractive also high IQ, i had learned a lot. Do not project value to anyone because we are all beings of equal value. The moment one projects value one is fucked.

 

You are going about it in a wrong mindset see your response is needy and attachment to women where you are doing classic mistake of putting her as the center not yourself.When you put yourself thats manly and now shes pulled towards you because she cant sense weakness..you should see her waay more than her body and pushed her to be more than her looks.

Well this is all a process of learning gane and being a man since you not interested in that then you will always look for some gimmic or way to fake to be one to get a woman.

[Javfly33]

1 minute ago, NoSelfSelf said:

you should see her waay more than her body and pushed her to be more than her looks.

 

No, i understand you, when i connected to her equal to equal was precisely because i tapped in that attitude of trying to see her more than his looks, seeing an interesting person

Edited August 28 by Javfly33

[NoSelfSelf]

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

No, i understand you, when i connected to her equal to equal was precisely because i tapped in that.

She should be connected to you and you being the source not you connecting to her and she being the source..your mind is making you believe you are more than you are so it will always push you to find evidence of how good you did vs looking it objectively..

You cant see her as more because you cant see yourself more than just a guy wanting to get laid.

Edited August 28 by NoSelfSelf

[Javfly33]

4 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

She should be connected to you and you being the source not you connecting to her and she being the source..your mind is making you believe you are more than you are so it will always push you to find evidence of how good you did vs looking it objectively..

You cant see her as more because you cant see yourself more than just a guy wanting to get laid.

Good point brother, im taking advice @NoSelfSelf 💪💪💪

[NoSelfSelf]

@Javfly33 everything im speaking takes years to make an inner shift expecially without guidence its not just advice you gonna put over your foundation thats blocking it.But im glad you see the value 🙏

[Javfly33]

2 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Javfly33 everything im speaking takes years to make an inner shift expecially without guidence its not just advice you gonna put over your foundation thats blocking it.But im glad you see the value 🙏

@NoSelfSelf Yeap man, totally resonate It with the last thing you said. I have to be source, not her 

💪 Whatever It takes brother. Thank you

Edited August 28 by Javfly33

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

@NoSelfSelf Yeap man, totally resonate It with the last thing you said. I have to be source, not her 

💪 Whatever It takes brother. Thank you

👍

[Schizophonia]

@NoSelfSelf You're describing that with your own words :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallic_stage

[NoSelfSelf]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@NoSelfSelf You're describing that with your own words :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallic_stage

I dont understand nothing from that link so i cant say. All im saying can be understood only if you are inner rooted if not its all just mumbo jumbo.

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

I dont understand nothing from that link so i cant say. All im saying can be understood only if you are inner rooted if not its all just mumbo jumbo.

When the child tries to compete with the father to have his mother and then a substitution after having internalized the taboo of incest, he understands that he must take the father's place, that is to say, manage to have the phallus (give money, humor, a physique, know how to play a musical instrument, etc.).

Through incomprehension or cognitive dissonance, there may be an excessive temptation to believe that one can attract by behaving in a feminine (non-phallic) manner, what you call neediness.
Generally because of the family situation and what is expected of the child.

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

When the child tries to compete with the father to have his mother and then a substitution after having internalized the taboo of incest, he understands that he must take the father's place, that is to say, manage to have the phallus (give money, humor, a physique, know how to play a musical instrument, etc.).

Through incomprehension or cognitive dissonance, there may be an excessive temptation to believe that one can attract by behaving in a feminine (non-phallic) manner, what you call neediness.
Generally because of the family situation and what is expected of the child.

What im talking about one doesnt compete with nobody but yourself...

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

When the child tries to compete with the father to have his mother and then a substitution after having internalized the taboo of incest, he understands that he must take the father's place, that is to say, manage to have the phallus (give money, humor, a physique, know how to play a musical instrument, etc.).

Through incomprehension or cognitive dissonance, there may be an excessive temptation to believe that one can attract by behaving in a feminine (non-phallic) manner, what you call neediness.
Generally because of the family situation and what is expected of the child.

I don´t think feminine manner matches neediness. By that logic most women should be needy, but that´s not the case.

Something in my energy system clearly does not work right, I think you guys are right in that masculine energy is partly shut down in my part, probably going to stop doing spirituality the next couple of years.

11 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

What im talking about one doesnt compete with nobody but yourself...

What you mean with that?

Edited August 29 by Javfly33

[Schizophonia]

51 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I don´t think feminine manner matches neediness. By that logic most women should be needy, but that´s not the case.

Women are needy but not with you because they have better options.

If your good looking OR masculine enough they are.

Girls also hide their feelings a lot more.

51 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Something in my energy system clearly does not work right, I think you guys are right in that masculine energy is partly shut down in my part, probably going to stop doing spirituality the next couple of years.

Try testosterone cream.
Not long if you're afraid, just for the experience.

You can also try to make a paleo diet (no overly processed products, allergens and which contain exorphins (therefore milk and modern cereals, especially wheat)), dopamine detox and manage chronic anxiety if you are affected.

Anxiety makes you needy and even somehow autistic.

A low anxiety state makes you masculin and euphorical.

 

Edited August 29 by Schizophonia

[NoSelfSelf]

@Javfly33 So to be source you need to be EVERYTHING(not just in spiritual sense) you are the competition,you are direction,you are the law,you are sex there is nothing outside imposing and defining you,you are doing it from inside-out you are competing againts yourself for example: in how many moves im gonna get her you say 6, if you miss one even if you win on the outside you didnt win! thats just a little simple example...

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Women are needy but not with you because they have better options.

If your good looking OR masculine enough they are.

Girls also hide their feelings a lot more.

Try testosterone cream.
Not long if you're afraid, just for the experience.

You can also try to make a paleo diet (no overly processed products, allergens and which contain exorphins (therefore milk and modern cereals, especially wheat)), dopamine detox and manage chronic anxiety if you are affected.

Anxiety makes you needy and even somehow autistic.

A low anxiety state makes you masculin and euphorical.

 

Ok, Ill try those advices

56 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Javfly33  in how many moves im gonna get her you say 6, if you miss one even if you win on the outside you didnt win! thats just a little simple example...

I dont understand what you mean by that

[NoSelfSelf]

@Javfly33 Even if you get the girl but you didnt get her in 6 moves then you lose because its competition with yourself.

[Javfly33]

10 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Javfly33 Even if you get the girl but you didnt get her in 6 moves then you lose because its competition with yourself.

right, I got ya. Congruence within, staying the source.

[NoSelfSelf]

9 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

right, I got ya. Congruence within, staying the source.

Yeah but you are not staying you are it.