Ego death from psychidelic is a fake ego death

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Princess Arabia Dont be so arrogantly naive. Yoga is a science thousands of years old. Really unwise for you to have that attitude.

Ive been doing Hatha Yoga and Kriya process from sadhguru and in this 2 years there is a very distinct difference in energies, concentration, Breathing, etc...between every type of process.

Even if i I Breath one milimeter different i Will notice the difference. If i do an asana just a bit different everything Will change. You can not fathom the increíble complexity of not Only human mechanism also how the energies of Infinity and of the 5 elements work in regards to It.

It is very unwise for you to think this things do not exist. There are rules in existence, even if existence is imaginary.

Thats why Every time you take coffee It stimulates you and if you do 5-MeO-DMT Will Kick your ass of consciousness. Every single time. The rules and complexity of the Reality is profound. 

In the same way, there is a whole science of understanding about how the whole existence works in regards to human consciousness, not Only psychedelics.

Maybe the next one! Im learning Surya Kriya Next month ☺️

Youre right I was being ignorant and naive. I will straighten that part up and try to transcend that part of me that doesn't like complexities. It's the mind that's not familiar with those terms lashing out, instead of trying to embrace the different forms of expression that the Universe has to offer. How silly of me to make a statement like that. I retract.

[Javfly33]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Youre right I was being ignorant and naive. I will straighten that part up and try to transcend that part of me that doesn't like complexities. It's the mind that's not familiar with those terms lashing out, instead of trying to embrace the different forms of expression that the Universe has to offer. How silly of me to make a statement like that. I retract.

🙏

[Keryo Koffa]

12 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Im learning Surya Kriya Next month ☺️

Powerful! Well, the way I observe actualized.org's faction war, it's three sides, which I call the zeroes, ones, and infinities!

0:  Nothing exists, yo! (Buddhism) [Void] <Nihilism> {Dissolution} ~ Egoless ~
1:  Everything is One, yo! (Christianity) [Solipsism] <Karma> {Convergence} ~ God ~
∞: Hyperspace yo-yo! (Psychonauts) [Aliens] <Insanity> {Divergence} ~ Self ~

[r0ckyreed]

there is no such thing as an ego death because the ego never existed in the first place.

[Javfly33]

35 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Powerful! Well, the way I observe actualized.org's faction war, it's three sides, which I call the zeroes, ones, and infinities!

0:  Nothing exists, yo! (Buddhism) [Void] <Nihilism> {Dissolution} ~ Egoless ~
1:  Everything is One, yo! (Christianity) [Solipsism] <Karma> {Convergence} ~ God ~
∞: Hyperspace yo-yo! (Psychonauts) [Aliens] <Insanity> {Divergence} ~ Self ~

35 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Powerful! Well, the way I observe actualized.org's faction war, it's three sides, which I call the zeroes, ones, and infinities!

0:  Nothing exists, yo! (Buddhism) [Void] <Nihilism> {Dissolution} ~ Egoless ~
1:  Everything is One, yo! (Christianity) [Solipsism] <Karma> {Convergence} ~ God ~
∞: Hyperspace yo-yo! (Psychonauts) [Aliens] <Insanity> {Divergence} ~ Self ~

🤣🤣 

@Keryo Koffa i think 1 is also a bit in the ♾️ symbol Though. Recently i was thinking on getting a tattoo on my arm like this:

Couldnt find a better resolution imagen but basically is a trishula with Infinity symbol 

Edited August 20 by Javfly33

[Keryo Koffa]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

🤣🤣 I think 1 is also in the ∞ symbol. I was thinking of getting a tattoo on my arm like a trishula-infinity combo

The one is bent into a mobius strip loop, turning a line into ∞, but it's still one, too!

Sounds like some badass symbolism, that's for sure, infinity 1, 2 zeros, trident, trishula, trinity, and all their ∞ synergy!

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Youre right I was being ignorant and naive. I will straighten that part up and try to transcend that part of me that doesn't like complexities. It's the mind that's not familiar with those terms lashing out, instead of trying to embrace the different forms of expression that the Universe has to offer. How silly of me to make a statement like that. I retract.

Last time my ego became this malleable and self-reflective, you called me Insane!

Edited August 20 by Keryo Koffa

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Last time my ego became this malleable and self-reflective, you called me Insane!

The only thing that's not insane is the empty space that holds all this insanity. 

😍

[Keryo Koffa]

47 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The only thing that's not insane is the empty space that holds all this insanity. 😍

Did you just assume the empty space's gender insanity level? Who said emptiness can't be insane?! That's such a stereotype!

[Davino]

4 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

there is no such thing as an ego death because the ego never existed in the first place.

Oh sure it does beloved

If you aren't aware of you're ego you are quite unconscious of your true potential

Edited August 20 by Davino

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

The only thing that's not insane is the empty space that holds all this insanity. 

😍

thank god the space will always be sane 😂

Edited August 20 by Javfly33

[Keryo Koffa]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

The only thing that's not insane is the empty space that holds all this insanity. 😍

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

thank god the space will always be sane 😂

@Princess Arabia @Javfly33 I WILL NOT HAVE THESE DELUSIONS STAND ANY LONGER!

How dare you impose and project your narrow sanity onto space? Not for long!

May I present, non-euclidean hyperbolic hyperspace:

Space warping and stretching itself about is at the very core of Insanity!

Edited August 20 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

@Keryo Koffa mmm, I would say that is still mind, is not space.

Space is empty Bliss, Shiva! The destructor. 0. Mahasamadhi. End of manifestation.

DMT Realms is still incarnation! Just a more fun wacky one that an encarnation of going flip burgers at McDonalds ...

[Ishanga]

16 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

if ego is dead when u use psychidelic , how come that ego comes back the next day

I've never had a psychedelic ego death since I've never tried anything stronger than weed, but I've had a high realization of my own ego, there is a space btwn what I am (Chitta-Consciousness-Atman) and this self created (Unconsciously) personality and identity that I call Me (Ahankara - The Sense of Identity or Ego) via some teachings I've had and Sadhana practice and Self Inquiry/Contemplation... I would say what is happening with the Psychedelics Ego Death is just a glimpse of it, its like looking over the wall, and the wall is like 100' tall, its a big wall so its a long journey and your at the top looking over it, You've now had a Glimpse of the Chitta/Conscious realm, but when the drug wears off You go back to normal, the Manas/Karma kicks back in, so its not a real Ego Death but a temporary one.

This is the problem with ppl that take Psychedelics without any prior training or Sadhana in their past that develops a Stable Base of Emotions and Energy, they take it and it brings them too quickly up the wall, this brings fear in their experience and at that moment of Fear they get a Glimpse of Reality and Consciousness as it Truly is, so it doesn't work, it may inspire or may destroy them, but with the Sadhana method it takes a bit longer but is way more stable..!

[r0ckyreed]

6 hours ago, Davino said:

Oh sure it does beloved

If you aren't aware of you're ego you are quite unconscious of your true potential

Is it possible for Santa Clause to die if Santa Clause is nothing but a figment of your imagination?

[Carl-Richard]

Non-psychedelic ego death also comes and goes. It's rare that it stays for a long time.

[Ramanujan]

18 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

It comes back whether it's meditation or psychedelics..it's a state of Consciousness. 

in enlightment it doesnt come back

[Ramanujan]

18 hours ago, Davino said:

 

Btw, if you don't mind asking me, what type of spiritual practices do you do? Meditation, yoga, psychedelics?

I keep getting this sense again and again from you that you only do philosophy, this is a trap. You have maxed out philosophy, now you need mystical experiences and nothing can do it but that.

i used to do kriya yoga. but it was eating away my ambition and drive and it removed my suffering. i live in 3rd world country and survival is brutal hardcore cut throat. i need those ambition and drive to survive. so i gave up kriya yoga. will start practicing once i get a job

[Ramanujan]

@Javfly33 dont go for sadhgurus kriya yoga . go for kriya yoga international organisation . sadhgurus program is watered down version. kriya yoga international is very powerful

[Ramanujan]

18 hours ago, Davino said:

 

I keep getting this sense again and again from you that you only do philosophy, this is a trap. You have maxed out philosophy, now you need mystical experiences and nothing can do it but that.

yeah this is true

i had mystical experience too thou

nowadays i am focusing on survival 

kriya yoga is not good for survival as it eats away my ambition and drive

[Ero]

On 20/8/2024 at 1:46 AM, Ramanujan said:

if ego is dead when u use psychidelic , how come that ego comes back the next day

If your body disappears when you fall asleep, how come it's real and not 'fake'? Sober or high, everything is a state of consciousness.

18 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Powerful! Well, the way I observe actualized.org's faction war, it's three sides, which I call the zeroes, ones, and infinities!

0:  Nothing exists, yo! (Buddhism) [Void] <Nihilism> {Dissolution} ~ Egoless ~
1:  Everything is One, yo! (Christianity) [Solipsism] <Karma> {Convergence} ~ God ~
∞: Hyperspace yo-yo! (Psychonauts) [Aliens] <Insanity> {Divergence} ~ Self ~

Hah, this is very accurate. You, on the other hand, seems to have transcended the countable infinity (aleph_0) and are possibly into the realms of aleph_1, the uncountable infinity. 

11 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

 

How dare you impose and project your narrow sanity onto space? Not for long!

May I present, non-euclidean hyperbolic hyperspace:

I would suggest a reading for the Euclidian-minded individuals - consider the Nobel Laureate Illya Prigogine's ''The End of Certainty". The 'Probability Revolution' or the 'Chaos, Entropy, Order' paradigm as I like to call it is one that lives beyond Euclidian space and into hyperbolic space - determinism and reductionism are metaphysic illusions masked in scientific clothes, but that is not the actual nature of dynamic and complex systems.