Two tier policing debunked

[Jacob Morres]

13 hours ago, Epikur said:

I would say more than half.

I believe you have no idea what Islam is. As Sam Harris puts it: Religions are a collection of bad ideas. One particular one is the mother of bad ideas.

The burqa among Muslims is certainly a feminist symbol

 

Does Tommy robinsons actions resemble nazism?

"The actions and statements of Tommy Robinson, as described in your query, show a pattern of targeting Muslims and promoting Islamophobic ideas. While these actions and rhetoric are indicative of extreme right-wing and xenophobic views, whether they resemble Nazism is more complex and depends on the specific aspects being compared.

 

**Similarities to Nazism:**

 

1. **Scapegoating and Dehumanization**: Robinson's rhetoric often involves portraying Muslims as a monolithic threat, similar to how Nazis scapegoated Jews and other minorities. The dehumanization of Muslims, by calling Islam a "disease" or promoting the idea of a "Muslim invasion," echoes Nazi propaganda that dehumanized Jews and depicted them as a threat to society.

 

2. **Violent Rhetoric**: The violent chants at EDL rallies, such as "Burn the mosque!" can be compared to the violent anti-Semitic chants and actions encouraged by the Nazis, particularly in the early years before they took full power.

 

3. **Anti-Immigration and Ethnic Purity**: Robinson's calls to ban Muslim immigration and his belief that Muslims cannot assimilate into European culture can be seen as resembling Nazi ideas of ethnic purity and the exclusion of those they considered "undesirable" from their vision of a homogeneous society.

 

**Differences from Nazism:**

 

1. **Ideological Foundation**: Nazism was based on a specific ideology of racial purity, Aryan supremacy, and a totalitarian state. Robinson's views, while extreme, are more focused on anti-Islam sentiment and do not encompass the full breadth of Nazi ideology, particularly its focus on racial hierarchy and genocide.

 

2. **State Power and Genocide**: The Nazis, when in power, implemented systematic genocide (the Holocaust) and other crimes against humanity. While Robinson's rhetoric is dangerous and promotes violence, it does not directly call for or carry out genocide, nor does he have state power to implement such policies.

 

In summary, while there are parallels in the scapegoating, dehumanization, and extreme rhetoric used by Tommy Robinson and Nazi propaganda, it is important to recognize the distinct historical and ideological contexts. Robinson's actions and views share similarities with broader far-right and xenophobic movements, but Nazism specifically was a unique and extreme form of racial totalitarianism that led to the Holocaust."

This was interesting to read. Initally i thought tommy's ideology was at the same level as nazis but i was def ignorant. Interesting to see the resemblences. But that being said, if culture didn't push back on him, how far would he go? 

Edited August 23 by Jacob Morres

[Consept]

2 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

This was interesting to read. Initally i thought tommy's ideology was at the same level as nazis but i was def ignorant. Interesting to see the resemblences. But that being said, if culture didn't push back on him, how far would he go? 

Realistically the only difference is power. There are undertones or even overt tones of being 'native english' and this is somehow superior. 

To say whether he would genocide or go to the extremes of nazism, I mean I don't think so, but people probably didn't think that of early nazis either so who knows 

[Jacob Morres]

4 hours ago, Consept said:

Realistically the only difference is power. There are undertones or even overt tones of being 'native english' and this is somehow superior. 

To say whether he would genocide or go to the extremes of nazism, I mean I don't think so, but people probably didn't think that of early nazis either so who knows 

Yeah good point. There's def a lot of projections of inferiority judgements onto Muslims. Lots of generalizations and negative stereotypes 

Like one being "inherently incapable of assimilating"

And then burning mosques is like "hate" 

I think this is fascism I think 

Edited August 24 by Jacob Morres