There is no such thing as nothing!

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3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You said there's no such thing as nothing. What am I reading. The word nothing. So it exists.

The word nothing exists as a concept but not in actuality 

Edited August 19 by MarioGabrielJ

[Keryo Koffa]

I made this hehe. Everything is Nothing, Nothing is a shared substrate, Nothing = Infinity = God = Interconnection

[ICURBlessings]

When it comes Truth and Reality - the word 'existence' is like a two-edge sword.

One can say that only what is real exist and be correct in a certain context.

While another can say that an illusion, although not real, can exist as such, meaning as an illusion - which is also correct.

If you take the definition of EXIST as 'stand out' - than one MUST ask: Stand out from what?

That very question frames a dualistic perspective: WHAT exist - and WHAT it stands out against or from. Since Reality is a UNIFIED State (Oneness) then a dualistic perspective is fundamentally of SOMETHING NOT REAL.

The only time that I see the topic of 'EXISTANCE' not ambiguous is when we are specific of what IS EXISTING. This could be 'objects of perception' such as a chair or a Planet. Or it could be about the Existence which is your BEINGNESS - or what many likes to call CONSCIOUSNESS. When we are specific about the Existence of 'WHAT' now we have much less ambiguity to deal with. 

 

Edited August 19 by ICURBlessings

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3 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

I made this hehe. Everything is Nothing, Nothing is a shared substrate, Nothing = Infinity = God = Interconnection

Everything is something but great drawing 

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2 minutes ago, ICURBlessings said:

When it comes Truth and Reality - the word 'existence' is like a two-edge sword.

One can say that only what is real exist and be correct in a certain context.

While another can say that an illusion, although not real, can exist as such, meaning as an illusion - which is also correct.

If you take the definition of EXIST as 'stand out' - than one MUST ask: Stand out from what?

That very question frames a dualistic perspective: WHAT exist - and WHAT it stands out against or from. Since Reality is a UNIFIED State (Oneness) then a dualistic perspective is fundamentally of SOMETHING NOT REAL.

The only time that I see the topic of 'EXISTANCE' not ambiguous is when we are specific of what IS EXISTING. This could be 'objects of perception' such as a chair or a Planet. Or it could be about the Existence which is your BEINGNESS - or what many likes to call CONSCIOUSNESS. When we are specific about the Existence of 'WHAT' now we have much less ambiguity to deal with. 

 

We’ll keep in mind that illusion etc are real, I made a topic about Illusions are real you can check it out, because if duality was not real then there would not be a thing called duality and nobody would experience it but here we are experience, it’s an illusion to our real nature but it is still real

[Dodo]

31 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

It either does exist or not and it does exist😁

Everything else exists within it, it itself doesn't exist. It doesn't stand out. Point to consciousness. You can't point to consciousness, you can only point to objects, as you said. Only reason you know consciousness is real, is because it is you, but it is nothing. 

Edited August 19 by Dodo

[ICURBlessings]

10 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

We’ll keep in mind that illusion etc are real, I made a topic about Illusions are real you can check it out, because if duality was not real then there would not be a thing called duality and nobody would experience it but here we are experience, it’s an illusion to our real nature but it is still real

About "We’ll keep in mind that illusion etc are real ..." In philosophical/metaphysical discussion context I consider Reality and Illusions as mutually exclusive - 

 

Edited August 19 by ICURBlessings

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1 minute ago, Dodo said:

Everything else exists within it, it itself doesn't exist. It doesn't stand out. Point to consciousness 

My friend I said before that even if we can not see it it still in existence, btw we can point to it for example our body

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@Dodo If consciousness itself did not exist, it would not make things exist! Non life does not make life 

[Keryo Koffa]

18 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

We’ll keep in mind that illusion etc are real, I made a topic about Illusions are real you can check it out, because if duality was not real then there would not be a thing called duality and nobody would experience it but here we are experience, it’s an illusion to our real nature but it is still real

@MarioGabrielJ

Maybe we should do a "transcend and include" combo with the "recontextualize duality as a unitary axis". Degrees of Reality

Nothing is an empty Container. Many containers have space for various dimensions, they can also be left empty, however

The Absolute Nothing is when all else is empty and the last/only container collapses into singular actualized total Indifference

The way I generally use Nothing though is a different Nothing, which is the linking inter-merged void connecting all "things"

Edited August 19 by Keryo Koffa

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Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

@MarioGabrielJ

Maybe we should do a "transcend and include" combo with the "recontextualize duality as a unitary axis". Degrees of Reality

Nothing is an empty Container. Many containers have space for various dimensions, they can also be left empty, however

The Absolute Nothing is when all else is empty and the last/only container collapses into singular actualized total Indifference

The way I generally use Nothing though is a different Nothing, which is the linking inter-merged void connecting all "things"

The nothing I refer to is that it does not exist, people use it as it means empty, but that is not the real definition.

[Keryo Koffa]

@MarioGabrielJ Which pathway/absolute are you pushing towards?

So empty, it's too void/null to exist or the by definition so unreal that it paradoxes itself?

Or the non-existent non-real that lies beyond the very pointer, but is truly unpointable because of that property?

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Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

@MarioGabrielJ Which pathway/absolute are you pushing towards?

So empty, it's too void/null to exist or the by definition so unreal that it paradoxes itself?

Or the non-existent non-real that lies beyond the very pointer, but is truly unpointable because of that property?

It can be how much empty it wants it still does exist just very very very very very empty (;

[Keryo Koffa]

@MarioGabrielJ I'd call that "Container Nothing", like an undivided idea of a Polarity, that doesn't contain any specifics yet.

Like an "Empty List", an "Empty Chalkboard", or an "Empty Festival". There is context, but there is nothing within to create or prove it.

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Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

@MarioGabrielJ I'd call that "Container Nothing", like an undivided idea of a Polarity, that doesn't contain any specifics yet.

Like an "Empty List", an "Empty Chalkboard", or an "Empty Festival". There is context, but there is nothing within to create or prove it.

Fair enough 

[Keryo Koffa]

@MarioGabrielJ Let's spice it up a bit. Remember Leo's Meta video?

Content vs Structure - and even that division must ultimately collapse lol

What if you know the Structure but haven't decided on content yet?

Apparently, the universe is holographic. Each part entailing the whole...

But then there is nothing but the structure to hint from the Content side

So the structure is also part content, the first content in fact, all else cursive

But the greater nothing escapes that, the greatest nothing is too nothing for that!

The Nothing⁰⁰ ⁰⁰ ⁰⁰ is ultimately too void for itself, hmmm...

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@Keryo Koffa Even though we can state there is no things inside an empty box, ultimately there are still things inside the box, such as space, air, particles, as well as the actual material of the box etc.

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1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@MarioGabrielJ Let's spice it up a bit. Remember Leo's Meta video?

Content vs Structure - and even that division must ultimately collapse lol

What if you know the Structure but haven't decided on content yet?

Apparently, the universe is holographic. Each part entailing the whole...

But then there is nothing but the structure to hint from the Content side

So the structure is also part content, the first content in fact, all else cursive

But the greater nothing escapes that, the greatest nothing is too nothing for that!

The Nothing⁰⁰ ⁰⁰ ⁰⁰ is ultimately too void for itself, hmmm...

I have not actually seen the video😢😏

[Keryo Koffa]

2 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

@Keryo Koffa Even though we can state there is no things inside an empty box, ultimately there are still things inside the box, such as space, air, particles, as well as the actual material of the box etc.

@MarioGabrielJ Nothing is a pointer towards "less things/ness", "fewer distinctions", "dissolving polarity", "no-thing-ness"

AND SO... A NEW IDEA MUST SPRING FORTH
The HOLISTIC NOTHING  ☯

[Dodo]

25 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

@Dodo If consciousness itself did not exist, it would not make things exist! Non life does not make life 

Consciousness is the canvas, things that exist are the painting. The painting, things that exist, can change, can come and go, the canvas does not exist in the realm of the painting, but it is essential to the painting and behind every brushstroke.

The canvas did not need to be painted, it is simply all-encompassing emptiness, which allows for the painting.