Ongoing issue with rape being prevalent in India

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Karmadhi said:

He has a point though.

 

THERE'S NO POINT THERE. Rape is not about sex.

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

Why don't you agree that sexual frustration also could lead to rape?

There's at least someone who has more power than someone else. If someone had sexual frustration, they could abuse their power.

It's another matter to know which one is the underlying motivation. Maybe, it's both.

Edited August 19 by Nemra

[vibv]

18 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

THERE'S NO POINT THERE. Rape is not about sex.

Of course it is. Maybe not exclusively, but you can't deny the sexual aspect.

[Princess Arabia]

What I'm saying is, if one doesn't have the other attributes that leads to rape, they're not going to likely commit the act from mere sexual frustration or the fact that they crave sex. A person doesn't become a rapist out of sexual frustration. They can be sexually frustrated, but it's not the underlying reason. It's these kinds of belief systems that sometimes make these perpetrators feel justifiable in committing their acts or simplify the act of rape and boil it down to a mere matter of sexual frustration. There are men turning down pussy just so they can derive pleasure from the one that was harder to get or that they had to manipulate their way into getting. It's a type of mindset, guys. I'm not saying that rapists don't get sexually frustrated.....but it's not why they rape.

[Moutushi]

51 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The reason men rape is because they crave sex.

I can see that being the case in many instances, however, in this particular case it was a mix of that and power/control/intimidation of a female doctor (the victim in this case), as she was threatening to expose corruption in the hospital she was working in

[Karmadhi]

43 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

THERE'S NO POINT THERE. Rape is not about sex.

Often it is caused by sexual frustration.

You are not a guy, so I do not think you can understand how it feels for a guy.

I am not saying it is not a horrible thing, but I can totally see how an ultra sexually frustrated guy that is also either mentally ill or just cruel person can resort to it.

What keeps men from rape is morals and conscience.

Remove these and.. 

There are cases where rape is about control more than sex, I do not disagree.

Both cases can happen

Edited August 19 by Karmadhi

[Princess Arabia]

There's probably 100 men right now in a particular town who are sexually frustrated another 200 that crave sex and not getting any, but not one of them is a rapist. There's probably one rapist in that same town, married with kids and can get pussy anytime he wants. Don't be fooled guys, there's a difference between a rape fantasy, and actually going out and committing the act. Or even thinking about rape from frustration and anger and actually doing it. One doesn't become a rapist by just thinking about it. Many people think about it. Just like you might think about robbing a bank when you're broke, but never actually doing it.

[Karmadhi]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

here's probably 100 men right now in a particular town who are sexually frustrated another 200 that crave sex and not getting any, but not one of them is a rapist. There's probably one rapist in that same town, married with kids and can get pussy anytime he wants. Don't be fooled guys, there's a difference between a rape fantasy, and actually going out and committing the act. Or even thinking about rape from frustration and anger and actually doing it. One doesn't become a rapist by just thinking about it. Many people think about it. Just like you might think about robbing a bank when you're broke, but never actually doing it.

Because rape is totally seen as horrible and not jusficible in our society and in basically all cultures.

Those sexually frustrated men have morals, some basic ethics or are just scared of the consequences (revenge, jail, relatives killing them back) etc.

Men that rape are either psychopathic or mentally unwell.

 

Edited August 19 by Karmadhi

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Karmadhi said:

You are not a guy,

I was waiting for this to come up. I'm not intimidated by this statement. It's just a way of trying to silence the female voice on these matters. I don't have to be a guy to know or understand why people rape. Your arguments are lame and only shows ignorance on your part.

[Davino]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What I'm saying is, if one doesn't have the other attributes that leads to rape, they're not going to likely commit the act from mere sexual frustration or the fact that they crave sex. A person doesn't become a rapist out of sexual frustration. They can be sexually frustrated, but it's not the underlying reason. It's these kinds of belief systems that sometimes make these perpetrators feel justifiable in committing their acts or simplify the act of rape and boil it down to a mere matter of sexual frustration. There are men turning down pussy just so they can derive pleasure from the one that was harder to get or that they had to manipulate their way into getting. It's a type of mindset, guys. I'm not saying that rapists don't get sexually frustrated.....but it's not why they rape.

The core issue keeps being sexual frustration.

See, what does sexual frustration do to a man: say 1 week, without sex, meh, one month, one year, one decade. How that is building up, slowly and steadfastly. 

Say you haven't eaten for one hour, for half a day, for one week. See that? the more intense the craving, the thirst, the more willing you are to push your limits.

Your position assumes that survival and basic human needs won't overpower belief systems or principles. Trust me, they will everyday of the week.

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The reason men rape is because they crave sex.

It's not rocket science.

If your belly is full of eating in 5 star buffet hotels, you're not gonna steal a slice of bread. Maybe one does it for the thrill but that's all there is to it.

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, Ajay0 said:

does not warrant presidents rule

I didn't say president's rule. Center has to intervene and crack down on them. That are plenty of other ways.

Else you will get more such incidents again and again.

[vibv]

14 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What I'm saying is, if one doesn't have the other attributes that leads to rape, they're not going to likely commit the act from mere sexual frustration or the fact that they crave sex. A person doesn't become a rapist out of sexual frustration. They can be sexually frustrated, but it's not the underlying reason. It's these kinds of belief systems that sometimes make these perpetrators feel justifiable in committing their acts or simplify the act of rape and boil it down to a mere matter of sexual frustration. There are men turning down pussy just so they can derive pleasure from the one that was harder to get or that they had to manipulate their way into getting. It's a type of mindset, guys. I'm not saying that rapists don't get sexually frustrated.....but it's not why they rape.

Sexual frustration is not sufficient, but necessary.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Karmadhi said:

Those sexually frustrated men have morals, some basic ethics or are just scared of the consequences (revenge, jail, relatives killing them back) etc.

Most criminals don't not commit their crimes because of fear of being incarcerated. A true rapist isn't thinking all this through. The urge is stronger than the consequences. Has nothing to do with morals.

[Davino]

1 minute ago, Karmadhi said:

Men that rape are either psychopathic or mentally unwell.

Maybe they are just desperate, like hungry ghosts.

If you demonize them, you will never understand them nor love them.

That's not how we reduce rape in India or in any other country. A conscious, psychological, cultural and holistic approach is necessary to tackle this issue.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, vibv said:

Sexual frustration is not sufficient, but necessary.

No

[Bobby_2021]

Powerful men rape not because they couldn't get sex. 

It's a power trip. 

I will do it and there is nothing you could do about it. 

[Davino]

Just now, Bobby_2021 said:

Powerful men rape not because they couldn't get sex. 

It's a power trip. 

I will do it and there is nothing you could do about it. 

How much rape is of that calliber?

I would assume its the exception and not the rule.

Besides, you can use power dynamics within regular sex, no need to rape. Only when lack of sex and power dynamics fuse together that happens, this is the common rape case.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Powerful men rape not because they couldn't get sex. 

It's a power trip. 

I will do it and there is nothing you could do about it. 

I can't seem to get through to these people that it's not about the lack of sex, the less powerful.....it's still about power but a different kind of power.

[Moutushi]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't have experience with India so I don't know why rape is so common there.

I would guess the problem is related to the culture's lack of acceptance for casual sex. From what I understand sex in India mostly requires getting married, which leaves many people sexually frustrated.

@Leo Gura I'm from the Middle East and familiar with their religious/cultural norms, despite living the majority of my life in the US. In the middle east, it very much mostly requires getting married (mainly for religious reasons), which leaves many people sexually frustrated, but the rape incidents are significantly less there than they are in India, so I do see other factors unique to India causing the rape rate to be as tragically high as it is

[Buck Edwards]

3 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Powerful men rape not because they couldn't get sex. 

It's a power trip. 

I will do it and there is nothing you could do about it. 

Yes.