Ken Wilber on Idealism/Materialism

[Nilsi]

“If you’re in a dream at night and there are thousands of people starving, there are two ways you can stop their hunger. One is that, in the dream, you can try to feed them all, but the second is you can wake up, and that will end their suffering immediately. But they’re both right; they’re both true.“

This is Ken Wilber at his best.

I have no issue with idealism and spirituality. I’ve had my fair share of „awakening“ experiences over the years, and I’m not going to deny their reality.

But it’s refreshing to see someone acknowledge the irreducible value and reality of life, rather than just programmatically sticking to the spiritual side of the debate (although, as a good Nietzschean, I must, of course, be just as ride-or-die with life as you idealists are with spirituality).

Edited August 12 by Nilsi

[aurum]

Looks like Jamie Wheal asking the question.

Makes sense that he would have been influenced by Wilber.

[CARDOZZO]

Amazing.

Wilber is intensely passionate about his work.

Thanks for sharing.

[Nilsi]

13 hours ago, aurum said:

Looks like Jamie Wheal asking the question.

Makes sense that he would have been influenced by Wilber.

Yes, and decades later, he delivered the most intelligent and poignant critique of Wilber.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve shared this interview here over the years, but it remains as fresh and relevant as ever.

[aurum]

5 hours ago, Nilsi said:

Yes, and decades later, he delivered the most intelligent and poignant critique of Wilber.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve shared this interview here over the years, but it remains as fresh and relevant as ever.

He makes some decent points. 

[CARDOZZO]

I became shocked when he was explaining the results he got about applying Integral Theory on business.