The dark side of Steroids

[Davino]

 

 

[OBEler]

Thanks for sharing, yeah it sounds so stereotypical but it seems real

[Asia P]

I can't explain to myself many things about humanity, one of these is why do ppl take steroids, it seems a terrible routine

[Davino]

@Asia P It makes you strong af

[Keryo Koffa]

@Davino

Agreed

Duwang

 

[Schizophonia]

10 hours ago, Asia P said:

I can't explain to myself many things about humanity, one of these is why do ppl take steroids, it seems a terrible routine

He is mentally ill.

 

[OBEler]

7 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

He is mentally ill.

 

10 hours ago, Asia P said:

 

That can be the price you pay for something you desire. Nothing bad or stupid about that.

It's just that most people are having a mediocre life with mediocre desires. They don't need steroids. And they will not understand people who have higher desires and aim for that with a sacrifice 

 

[Schizophonia]

18 minutes ago, OBEler said:

That can be the price you pay for something you desire. Nothing bad or stupid about that.

It's just that most people are having a mediocre life with mediocre desires. They don't need steroids. And they will not understand people who have higher desires and aim for that with a sacrifice 

 

You're chronically depressed and/or neurotic and so you can only or almost project yourself on "low frequencies" projects, because you have a problem, a blockage with the challenges of social survival.

Bodybuilding is terribly stressful, painful and dangerous ; It's a dumb delirium.

There is a lot better.

Edited August 16 by Schizophonia

[Davino]

@Schizophonia Consider some people are born with an innate love for bodybuilding and body aesthetics. For them taking steroids fuels their passion for live, while having negative side effects that they still think are net positive in the end.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Davino Does this metaphor apply to psychonauts, yogis, models, trekkers, managers, visionaries, and leo too?
Pushing themselves to their limits with whatever means and activities are available...

[Davino]

@Keryo Koffa Yes, you got it

How far each one pushes it, is what makes the difference. Consider that the best will push it beyond comfort and health for they love too much pursuing their passion.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Davino Hmm, sounds like Life Purpose at this point.

Lifting and pushing yourself until the fibers in your muscles snap, and the body recreates them stronger.

Pushing the neurons inside your brain to their maximum until the only way for them to survive is to evolve.

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

@Schizophonia Consider some people are born with an innate love for bodybuilding and body aesthetics.

Steroids don't exist on nature, how could a baby want doing bodybuilding ?

1 hour ago, Davino said:

while having negative side effects that they still think are net positive in the end.

Which positivity ?

I think there are other ways to feel fulfilled that turning yourself into a drugged freak.

[Keryo Koffa]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Steroids don't exist on nature, how could a baby want doing bodybuilding ?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/natural-steroids

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Which positivity?

Growth

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I think there are other ways to feel fulfilled that turning yourself into a drugged freak.

I'll leave that discussion to the two of you

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/natural-steroids

Lol

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/natural-steroids

Growth

Muscles yeah maybe.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Schizophonia Any activity you do evolves that part of you, same with pushing past limits.

And just like you can transcend a paradigm, you could also cripple yourself, balance is important.

But the point still stands and applies to everything.

[Ishanga]

The pushing past limits and such, is just another example of Desire process.  Whatever label you attach to it, Ambition, Greed, Conquest, Success, Wanting More, etc,,,if you go to the root of it all its about Being More than What You are Right Now, it just manifests differently in ppl depending on many factors...

The only problem is a matter of Awareness of it, if Your UnAware then it may be destructive to you (see modern day Ronnie Coleman, can't walk, in constant pain, etc), but if You can Joyfully accept the consequence then do whatever it is, but it may also be destructive to those around you or on a larger scale (see Putin), so in some sense there is a Good and Bad evaluation here, it depends on how on contextualizes it! If Your Aware of this wanting to be More/Desire process, then for sure You will do what is best for You and all around You! Like Technology, none of it is disempowering for You, it is your Awareness level regarding how to use it..Your Karma is that Life is Your Making, take Response Ability for Everything and life Transforms!

Edited August 16 by Ishanga

[Schizophonia]

57 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Schizophonia Any activity you do evolves that part of you, same with pushing past limits.

And just like you can transcend a paradigm, you could also cripple yourself, balance is important.

But the point still stands and applies to everything.

You don't get it.

Roids are very dangerous and unhealthy, it can be an hell.

It's not like being a great athlete, having your own enterprise or something like that.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Ishanga Excellent Answer! Like the homeostatic evolution of the Yin Yang balance.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Schizophonia That might be true, I don't have enough of a dataset.

I guess if I multiplied the risk factor of the weights and biases by x100, then it would make perfect sense.

And yes, it seems to just build up the body, while the body already by itself evolves to face hardships at hand.

It's quite interesting, isn't pushing itself the goal, which would self-perpetuate?

So then steroids speed up the journey, but isn't it solely for approval and aesthetics? Sounds quite arbitrary...

Then again, that's my bias... and there's no reason why it wouldn't metaphorically apply to all kinds of activities

Edited August 16 by Keryo Koffa