Rafael Thundercat

Specialists in Tibetan Tradition. Help to Understand this?

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As a side study, I am trying to collect the history of Females who attained high levels of Awakening. I feel we need to integrate this side. So I am realing some books and making research. Help is accepted for those who know a bit about it. I know from study that the Oracles of Delphi were woman, and many Woman were Prophets,Priests and Magicians in the Past. In the Modern days we have woman shamans, Maria Sibina,a dn many others so I found this Tibetan Important Being called: 

Yeshe Tsogyal

https://www.shambhala.com/the-secret-life-story-of-yeshe-tsogyal.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshe_Tsogyal

  • known as "Victorious Ocean of Knowledge", "Knowledge Lake Empress"
  • attained enlightenment in her lifetime and is considered the Mother of Tibetan Buddhism
  • she began studying Buddhism with Padmasambhava, who became her main karmamudrā consort
  • She is known to have revealed terma with Padmasambhava and was also the main scribe for these terma. Later, Yeshe Tsogyal also hid many of Padmasambhava's terma on her own, under the instructions of Padmasambhava for future generations

Is with the concept of Terma that I need a second opinion. Because we have the concept of Karma yes, but Terma is a Nebulous thing, sounds like a sort of Revelation that can be hidden is a object or even in space or maybe in Akashic records. So imagine you are able to acess the field as a libary and download information from there or even up-load wisdom in there. of course when I say there I am using dual language but for any of you who had acess to some frequency realm you know what I am talkig about, is not Physical at all. 

Ok back to the concept of Terma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terma_(religion)

Terma  "hidden treasure") are various forms of hidden teachings that are key to Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhist and Bon spiritual traditions. In the Vajrayana Nyingma school tradition, two lineages occur: an oral kama lineage and a revealed terma lineage.

Tradition holds that terma teachings were originally esoterically hidden by eighth-century Vajrayana masters Padmasambhava and Yeshe Tsogyal, to be discovered at auspicious times by treasure revealers known as tertöns. As such, terma represent a tradition of continuous revelation in Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhism.

My interesst here is in the topic of TERTONS. since is via ternons that the continous revelation are channeled. And what the possibility to become one of this channelers. 

Again about the Importance of study Females Awakened beings the Wiki say this about her "

"In the body of a woman

 

As to the question of the place of female practitioners in Tibetan Buddhism, Yeshe Tsogyal has been an important role model. When she herself asked about "her inferior female body" (a common theme in the biographies of female spiritual practitioners), Padmasambhava advised Yeshe Tsogyal that far from being a hindrance to enlightenment, as was generally accepted, a woman's body is an asset: "The basis for realizing enlightenment is a human body. Male or female, there is no great difference. But if she develops the mind bent on enlightenment the woman’s body is better."

 

After many years of serious study and meditative practice, Yeshe Tsogyal's level of spiritual awakening, enlightenment, was equal to that of Padmasambhava.

The body is the vessel, the Veichle of Attainment, must be clear this for anyone, even for the ones who claim that the body is just a dream as everything else. The truth is that If you going to use any techinique to Awaken you will use the body structure as the Trampolin. ShamanicBrething,Bandas,DMT,5MEO DMT.. ETC.. All demands a human body. and a trainment of the mind to make the breakthought.

The Terton is someone who channel Wisdom, so, I keep thinking how much Termas or "Hidden Treasures" there are hidden in Tibetan Valts? Just a curiosity. Would demand a travel to Tibet and somehow acess to the Books there to know. But why make the physical effort to access treasures if all the wisdom even gatherered from any human mind came from the same iNFINITE source of Intelligence? 

But again, about the writen texts, there are acctualy tresure hunters in this world that have passion to find out this lost sacred texts .

check this :

https://himalaya.socanth.cam.ac.uk/collections/journals/jiabr/pdf/JIABR_01_10.pdf

On the tab Terton on wikipedia is decribed about Khakyab Dorje, 15th Karmapa Lama

The 15th Karmapa Khakyab Dorje of the Karma Kagyu Lineage was a tertön. There was a prophecy from Yeshe Tsogyal that he should take tantric consorts. Initially, he wished to stay a monk, but his health was failing. Meditation masters told him he would die if he didn't fulfill his functions as a tertön. In 1892, he was convinced to marry when he was 20 years old. By the time the 15th karmapa died, he had accumulated 40 boxes of termas, texts and objects

This bit make one ask is the path of celibate is really functional for all. What if engaging with a consort may be a way up to increase the advencdement of spiritual awakening instead of being a hindrance? See in this particular historical case the guy would die if he keept ignoring the destiny of his soul path. 

That is something that I admire in Traditional Lineages, in this Traditions there are a whole clan of wizards around that can sense who is aimed to certain paths. Even is Amazom Tribes the boys who the Shaman see that have a call for the Craft are selected and trained since young age to become a Shaman himself. And from oral transmision, those guys have no books, all they know is transmited by Songs 

To finish about the Necessity of a Consort to be able to be a Terton: 

Tertön practices

Consorts, with whom they practice sexual yoga or karmamudra to accelerate and enhance their capacity for realization, are thought to be very important to tertöns.[6] Fremantle (2001: p. 19) states that:

One of the special requirements for the discovery of termas is the inspiration of the feminine principle, just as it was necessary for their concealment. The great majority of tertöns have been men, and generally they are accompanied by their wives or female companions (who need not necessarily have a sexual relationship with them). Alternatively, something representing the tertön's complementary energy, whether male or female, must be present.

Yet, even very realized female practitioners bring forth terma, sometimes with an living male consort and sometimes alone. Dakini Sera Khandro is a notable example of a woman tertön.

Although the authenticity and value of a terma may be questioned or debated, tertöns are exempt from being judged according to their behavior and lifestyle, with Guru Rinpoche having cautioned that "hidden enlightened beings appear in uncertain form" and, by contrast, "fool-deceivers are great hypocritical mimics of the dharmic practitioner".

 

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