How does god make sure that every part reunites back into the godhead?

[rudirotbart]

Hello,

i have a question regarding the nature of god. In the video "The Ultimate structure of Reality explained" Leo explains that god can't force a being to become conscious, that Consciousness has to be chosen freely by it. But what if the part decided to stay unconscious for eternity? How does god make sure that every being reunites in the long run?

[Sugarcoat]

I don’t know if this is true but I think of it kind of like this. In my experience, an aspect of the self is this constant mental activity that is trying to maintain itself. It’s like this mental structure that’s trying to maintain itself. The most natural thing is for it to slowly over lifetimes dissolve (can go faster ofc), like how entropy increases with time  ( i don’t know if that’s a fair comparison). 

Edited August 4 by Sugarcoat

[Hojo]

As you go through your life you leave parts of you behind. You go back and pick them up and Karmas done and you vanish.

When you are a baby- teenager you have much more emotions and feelings and you drop them when you get hurt. I think you go back into spaces where you dropped parts of yourself and get them. They are in your memories.

You can die and come back to the same body to finish gathering yourself but everything is a dream so its not physically the same body.

I imagine you just keep going through cycles until you see what needs to be done.

Edited August 4 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, rudirotbart said:

Hello,

i have a question regarding the nature of god. In the video "The Ultimate structure of Reality explained" Leo explains that god can't force a being to become conscious, that Consciousness has to be chosen freely by it. But what if the part decided to stay unconscious for eternity? How does god make sure that every being reunites in the long run?

There's no one deciding to stay unconscious. Same as when you go to sleep, do you in the middle of sleep decide to wake up; no, it just happens. No one says they're going to stay unconscious for eternity. Consciousness is the dream of the separate "I" of which there is none to begin with, only in appearance. There's no separation and no real unconscious being. It's just a part being played by the Universal I, the Self. This is why "normal beings don't wanna hear this shit and people stay "asleep". Would you like for someone to wake you up forcibly in the middle of your dream. Nobody gets out of this alive to ensure that it doesn't sleep forever. Name one person who lives forever in the human body. No one. 

Edited August 4 by Princess Arabia

[rudirotbart]

I imagine the seperate self reincarnating for eternity, never reaching the god head, because god doesn‘t force it to give up it‘s false Identity. Is that possible?

[Sugarcoat]

43 minutes ago, rudirotbart said:

I imagine the seperate self reincarnating for eternity, never reaching the god head, because god doesn‘t force it to give up it‘s false Identity. Is that possible?

Some people describe awakenings as being able to happen spontaneously, so that would probably happen sooner or later. And also as I said before, the way the human self is structured it’s bound to dissolve sooner or later because it’s not really real

[Princess Arabia]

55 minutes ago, rudirotbart said:

I imagine the seperate self reincarnating for eternity, never reaching the god head, because god doesn‘t force it to give up it‘s false Identity. Is that possible?

The illusory imagined separate self cannot reincarnate because it doesn't exist.

[Javfly33]

@rudirotbart Great question.

God does not make sure of this because there is not God outside of you doing anything.

You are "God" literally, actually, and Now.

 

You as God picked Up certain information in the sense of duality.

What you call your body, is a certain information too.

 

The process of Spirituality is just this. You become so conscious you start cleaning and dissolving all the dualities you picked Up. 

How Deep you want to go is Up to you. 

 

Remember, this work is not something you outsource to God because you ARE God.

You are currently entangled in your own Creation, thats the REASON you are experiencing a universe and a reality in the first place. 

 

And by the way, the Godhead is not somewhere else. You are It. When you liberate you just become completely you without dualities. Simply. You are already the Godhead but you have too many knots and anchors all over the place.

 

Remember Infinity is Infinite aloleneness, even if I do mahasamadhi your process of entanglement Will Still be on.

My process of Liberation Will free some things in you, but you Will Still have to do your work. 

 

Your understanding of God or the Godhead is incorrect. 

With that incorrect perception (Beliefs about a God or Godhead somewhere outside of you doing things for you) you won't ever take responsability for your process of Liberation.

Edited August 4 by Javfly33

[Keryo Koffa]

In a way: God doesn't care, in another: you are guided, in yet another: you're God playing around.

We are all each other's holographic holistic projections, externalized for interactive experience.

We are an unconscious amalgamation that evolves into conscious self-exploring psychic entities.

Earth is a uniquely shrowded experience of unconscious depth and teaches through discomfort.

This plane uniquely collapses possibilities, so that they gain in meaning through the limits of time.

But there is no end to and you determine the particular experiences, moving on again as you wish.

[Davino]

How does water make sure it arrives to the ocean after raining? 

It's the whole water cycle.

[Leo Gura]

DEATH

[Davino]

Does Infinity imply I will live through every possible POV?

[puporing]

Because you cannot truly forget where you came from and as well discernment of what's true. It's why there will always be spiritual teachers etc.

Edited August 5 by puporing

[Hojo]

@rudirotbart The Godhead is outside of time. Anytime spent out is no time. Even if you left time you could come right back in 1 second when in first person experience it was infinite time. Theres nothing to do for the Godhead but come back to itself it cant not.

Edited August 5 by Hojo

[rudirotbart]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

DEATH

So god forces the seperate self to give up its Identity in the end? How ist his compatible with love?

[puporing]

There's not really "forcing" but you could say influencing. 

Also the cutoff part of you is suffering due to it now being largely forgotten, so due to that it can only suffer for so long before it has to come out into this world.

Edited August 5 by puporing

[Leo Gura]

32 minutes ago, rudirotbart said:

How is this compatible with love?

Death is Love.

[rudirotbart]

You explained that God doesn‘t force a being to be Loving, but when a being dies (physically) the Love is forced onto it? Wouldn‘t it be more loving (from my selfish POV) to accept it‘s selfishness and not force it to die?

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, rudirotbart said:

You explained that God doesn‘t force a being to be Loving

Except for death.

There's not really an option. All finite things must die.

Edited August 5 by Leo Gura

[rudirotbart]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Except for death.

There's not really an option. All finite things must die.

That's perfect, but scary. For how long does god have mercy until it sais: "Ok, now you will die. Muhahahaha"?