I feel more comfortable running as a Democrat but I have more republican views

[Emerald]

4 minutes ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald What I believe is that your hormones literally design you to be attracted to the opposite sex for every human being. 

What gay and bisexual people do is actively change the hormones inside of their body on purpose as your body is literally designed for you to be attracted to and reproduce with the opposite sex.

I believe it is extremely dangerous for the lgbtq community to be accepted as normal in society because it could influence or even attempt to force other people to change the hormones inside their body.

Once you change the hormones inside your body you can't just reverse that, that is why I believe it is extremely dangerous for the lgbtq community to be open and accepted the way it is. 

That's a totally non-scientific perspective. How do you suppose that people with same-sex attractions change the hormones in their body? 

I can tell you that, though I am mostly romantically attracted to men... I've been sexually attracted to males and females since before I went through puberty. My 10 year old self, would even rationalize away my sexual attraction to girls/women by thinking "Maybe it's because society conditions everyone to associate sex with pretty ladies."

It took me until I was twenty to be like, "Oh yeah... duh. I just bisexual and rationalizing it away."

So, there was no hormone change.... nor do I know how anyone would even pull that off in your mind.

It's just something that's always been there that I have the capacity to be aroused by a woman.

[Nemra]

42 minutes ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@ICURBlessings I would say the beliefs that are held on by Christians. 

Brainwashing Kids!

You most likely wouldn't be a Christian if you weren't exposed to it as a kid. Think about that.

Edited August 13 by Nemra

[aurum]

38 minutes ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@aurum That may not always be there intentions but that's what happens in society though. 

They either want to influence you or force you to join the LGBTQ community or they want you to have something to do with it.

For example now at some sports game they are forcing the players to try to wear lgbtq jerseys for pride month. 

You went from just accepting the community to now being forced to have something to do with it even though you didn't want to. 

Your example is not strong at all.

Consider that things like jerseys and pride month are nessesary in order to stand up against conservatives, such as yourself, who would still like to role back LGBTQ rights. And that some players may actually may want to wear those jerseys because they genuinely care about the cause.

It's quite a leap from "people forced to wear jerseys" to "LGBTQ people are forcing you to be LGBTQ".

And yes, you are to certain degree being left behind by the culture. It's going to feel like you are being forced into things you don't like, and it's because many people have gotten past this issue already.

[Talinn]

Testosterone increases your drive for sex more than estrogen does in my experience -- in a more, maybe I'll say "primal" and (my personal note, disgusting) way, but neither of them can really alter your base sexual orientation. They may tweak it a little but it's not really that significant. It is interesting to contemplate their similarities, though. You'd notice what feels more "pure" to you, if you had one or the other in your body, and that might make think they make unrecognizable differences, but yeah they don't generally change this specific area.

Edited August 13 by Talinn

[NightHawkBuzz]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You are talking about leadership. To be a leader you have to lead, YOU have to tell us the solution, we shouldn't be telling you the solution. A leader is someone who comes up with solutions that others do not see and then convinces others to see as he does.

@Leo Gura Yeah I agree but I still thought you may have had some suggestions or ideas though for me though. 

[Ves]

9 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald What I believe is that your hormones literally design you to be attracted to the opposite sex for every human being. 

What gay and bisexual people do is actively change the hormones inside of their body on purpose as your body is literally designed for you to be attracted to and reproduce with the opposite sex.

I believe it is extremely dangerous for the lgbtq community to be accepted as normal in society because it could influence or even attempt to force other people to change the hormones inside their body.

Once you change the hormones inside your body you can't just reverse that, that is why I believe it is extremely dangerous for the lgbtq community to be open and accepted the way it is. 

I was born male and took estrogen for 1 year. I stopped nearly 2 years ago. My sexual attraction to women never changed, I met my current girlfriend near the end of my time on estrogen. This happens to many people, there are a lot of trans woman lesbians.

Also you can reverse it — at least, for males taking estrogen — depending on how long you were taking hormones and individual factors. My body went back to normal over a few months, except for the fact that I have some fairly mild gyno now 😔.

(Unless you meant different hormones?)

[ICURBlessings]

23 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald

Once you change the hormones inside your body you can't just reverse that, that is why I believe it is extremely dangerous for the lgbtq community to be open and accepted the way it is. 

NightHawkBuzz you and others that are LGBTQ-Phobic are coming up with truly UNSOUND theories. Your theory is a story you tell yourself to justify your UNFOUNDED fears.

Your line of thinking is faulty in a way that you don't understand (obviously) - here is an example, you said "Once you change the hormones inside your body you can't just reverse that, ... " Althought the premise of hormonal change as a cause for homosexuality's is not valid - TELL ME why in your 'tale' is the theory that hormonal changes cannot be reversed? In your theory you claim that hormones can be change ONE WAY but NOT the other way?!?

Edited August 14 by ICURBlessings
spelling correction

[DLH]

On 8/12/2024 at 11:17 PM, NightHawkBuzz said:

What do you think I should do about my whole problem here though. 

I feel more comfortable running as a Democrat because I am half white and half black. I feel that I would be prohibited from moving up in the Republican Party the way I want to because they have never elected any person of color to be Speaker of the House, Vice President or President before. 

My goal is to get extremely far in politics and I feel I might be restricted running as a Republican because of my mixed race. 

However, I have way more Republican Party beliefs than I do democrat. I would like to pass a large amount of anti-lgbtq laws and I know I won't be able to do that if I run as a democrat. 

So what do you think I should do here?

Truly Amazing!!!

You keep asking the same questions over and over, and many people on the forum have taken the time to give you constructive help, support and suggestions!

I don't think you are looking for advice because your glass cup is full and overflowing with your steadfast beliefs, ignorance, and fear.

Your feeble attempts to sway the audience with your justification to suppress LGBTQ people is nothing more than a shallow form of gaslighting!  

 

Seriously!  If you want to be a Leader you need to learn to listen and have an open flexible mind, and you need to overcome your fears and outdated belief system!

Ultimately, you need to respect other people and their beliefs...  Meaning, stop projecting your fears and antiquated beliefs on to others!

If you are not open to consider constructive helpful feedback to your questions and perceived situation, then stop wasting other peoples time!

 

On 8/11/2024 at 10:43 AM, DLH said:

Fear is the route of all suffering when you attach it to a belief system, an ideology, and then projected it out onto the world

This fear projection onto the world is a false, misguided, and a delusional hope of eliminating the cause of the fear you have attached your identity and ego on!

I was a Christian in my younger years, but soon realized that most of the teachings, (from my perspective) were mainly based on fear and a means to control the masses to suppress an individual’s freedom of “Beingness”.  The teaching also suppress the freedom to chose ones own journey and creative expression.

From my perspective, when you project fear intentionally onto the world, individuals, groups, and ideas that do not align with your own beliefs, wouldn't God considered this to be one of the greatest “Christian Sins” one can commit as a human?  

If God has “Lovingly” given you the freedom to chose whatever belief you wish to attach yourself to!  Whether right or wrong!  Why are you not giving that same freedom to others?

Are you above God?

Do you really want to play judge and jury?

Wouldn't you rather want to share the same “Love” and "Freedom" that God has giving you, to share with the rest of the world?

 

On another note:

As for your struggles to chose a political party.  Why are you so intent on attaching yourself to other peoples’ ideas, dogmas, beliefs, and ideologies?

God has given you the freedom to express your “own beliefs and creativity”, which by the way, are constantly changing as you expand your awareness and consciousness.

Nothing stands still.  When you close yourself off from the infinite expressions of God and the infinite forms of human beingness, you create suffering!  

When you choose to attach yourself and your identity to a strongly held narrow-minded belief and ideology, you are subjecting yourself to stagnation and self-inflicted pain and anguish.  Why would you do this to yourself?

Do not sacrifice your God given gift to freely express your uniqueness to the world by projecting your fear on to others!

 

Just a thought!

Why have you not considered being an independent?

Being independent, being unique, and having the freedom to share your "unconditional love" towards freedom and unimpeded expression of creativity is one of the highest forms of Love that God can bestow onto humanity!

 

Just sharing a few thoughts and ideas!

And like my grandpappy used to say, "do as you like, and live another day in freedom!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14 by DLH

[NightHawkBuzz]

On 8/12/2024 at 10:37 PM, Emerald said:

That's a totally non-scientific perspective. How do you suppose that people with same-sex attractions change the hormones in their body? 

I can tell you that, though I am mostly romantically attracted to men... I've been sexually attracted to males and females since before I went through puberty. My 10 year old self, would even rationalize away my sexual attraction to girls/women by thinking "Maybe it's because society conditions everyone to associate sex with pretty ladies."

It took me until I was twenty to be like, "Oh yeah... duh. I just bisexual and rationalizing it away."

So, there was no hormone change.... nor do I know how anyone would even pull that off in your mind.

It's just something that's always been there that I have the capacity to be aroused by a woman.

@Emerald It's actual the opposite it is a scientific perspective. The natural hormones inside your body make you attracted to the opposite sex and gay people decide to change that in their bodies. 

Nobody is naturally attracted to the same sex you have to actively decided to do that. 

[NightHawkBuzz]

On 8/12/2024 at 11:13 PM, aurum said:

Your example is not strong at all.

Consider that things like jerseys and pride month are nessesary in order to stand up against conservatives, such as yourself, who would still like to role back LGBTQ rights. And that some players may actually may want to wear those jerseys because they genuinely care about the cause.

It's quite a leap from "people forced to wear jerseys" to "LGBTQ people are forcing you to be LGBTQ".

And yes, you are to certain degree being left behind by the culture. It's going to feel like you are being forced into things you don't like, and it's because many people have gotten past this issue already.

@aurum Yeah but there are people who don't want to wear LGBTQ jerseys who are being forced to do so as well. 

And yes that is forcing someone to participate in something they don't want to do. Also, the community could be trying to force people or influence them to become LGBTQ as well. 

[NightHawkBuzz]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:09 AM, ICURBlessings said:

NightHawkBuzz you and others that are LGBTQ-Phobic are coming up with truly UNSOUND theories. Your theory is a story you tell yourself to justify your UNFOUNDED fears.

Your line of thinking is faulty in a way that you don't understand (obviously) - here is an example, you said "Once you change the hormones inside your body you can't just reverse that, ... " Althought the premise of hormonal change as a cause for homosexuality's is not valid - TELL ME why in your 'tale' is the theory that hormonal changes cannot be reversed? In your theory you claim that hormones can be change ONE WAY but NOT the other way?!?

@ICURBlessings I'm right your natural hormones make you attracted to the opposite sex and once you change that you can't undo it.

It's just a fact you can say I'm wrong but I know I'm right. 

[NightHawkBuzz]

On 8/11/2024 at 9:43 AM, DLH said:

Fear is the route of all suffering when you attach it to a belief system, an ideology, and then projected it out onto the world

This fear projection onto the world is a false, misguided, and a delusional hope of eliminating the cause of the fear you have attached your identity and ego on!

I was a Christian in my younger years, but soon realized that most of the teachings, (from my perspective) were mainly based on fear and a means to control the masses to suppress an individual’s freedom of “Beingness”.  The teaching also suppress the freedom to chose ones own journey and creative expression.

From my perspective, when you project fear intentionally onto the world, individuals, groups, and ideas that do not align with your own beliefs, wouldn't God considered this to be one of the greatest “Christian Sins” one can commit as a human?  

If God has “Lovingly” given you the freedom to chose whatever belief you wish to attach yourself to!  Whether right or wrong!  Why are you not giving that same freedom to others?

Are you above God?

Do you really want to play judge and jury?

Wouldn't you rather want to share the same “Love” and "Freedom" that God has giving you, to share with the rest of the world?

 

On another note:

As for your struggles to chose a political party.  Why are you so intent on attaching yourself to other peoples’ ideas, dogmas, beliefs, and ideologies?

God has given you the freedom to express your “own beliefs and creativity”, which by the way, are constantly changing as you expand your awareness and consciousness.

Nothing stands still.  When you close yourself off from the infinite expressions of God and the infinite forms of human beingness, you create suffering!  

When you choose to attach yourself and your identity to a strongly held narrow-minded belief and ideology, you are subjecting yourself to stagnation and self-inflicted pain and anguish.  Why would you do this to yourself?

Do not sacrifice your God given gift to freely express your uniqueness to the world by projecting your fear on to others!

 

Just a thought!

Why have you not considered being an independent?

Being independent, being unique, and having the freedom to share your "unconditional love" towards freedom and unimpeded expression of creativity is one of the highest forms of Love that God can bestow onto humanity!

 

Just sharing a few thoughts and ideas!

And like my grandpappy used to say, "do as you like, and live another day in freedom!

@DLH I have thought about becoming an independent actually. The reason that I haven't done it yet is because I felt like I might be stopped from moving my way up the way I want to.

I have huge political goals one day wanting to become the President, Vice President or Speaker of the House and I feel like being an independent might hurt me doing so because they usually don't win huge political races like that. 

[mattm33]

6 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald It's actual the opposite it is a scientific perspective. The natural hormones inside your body make you attracted to the opposite sex and gay people decide to change that in their bodies. 

Nobody is naturally attracted to the same sex you have to actively decided to do that. 

Is this person just trolling? How do they change their hormones? Are you confusing gay and transgender or something?

[Schizophonia]

On 8/13/2024 at 6:32 AM, Talinn said:

Testosterone increases your drive for sex more than estrogen does in my experience -- in a more, maybe I'll say "primal" and (my personal note, disgusting) way, but neither of them can really alter your base sexual orientation. They may tweak it a little but it's not really that significant. It is interesting to contemplate their similarities, though. You'd notice what feels more "pure" to you, if you had one or the other in your body, and that might make think they make unrecognizable differences, but yeah they don't generally change this specific area.

Why do you mean ?

Have you both injected testosterone and estradiol ?

[Alex M]

11 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald Nobody is naturally attracted to the same sex you have to actively decided to do that. 

If I understand you correctly you are saying I made a conscious decision not to be attracted to men. And at any point I could choose to stop being attracted to women and start liking men?

I'm heterosexual for context.

[ICURBlessings]

22 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@ICURBlessings I'm right your natural hormones make you attracted to the opposite sex and once you change that you can't undo it.

It's just a fact you can say I'm wrong but I know I'm right. 

Hormones are involved in every processes of our BODY - But to say hormones are the CAUSE of a human behavior is another thing completely. Such a belief is the product of an UNEDUCATED mind on the subject.

Here I quote from a the following study paper titled The biological basis of sexual orientation: How hormonal, genetic, and environmental factors influence to whom we are sexually attracted:

"Sexual orientation in humans represents a highly complex behavioral trait and is the result of multifaceted interactions between endocrine, genetic, and non-socioenvironmental factors. Although research has elucidated some initial insights into the basic mechanisms underlying sexual orientation, our knowledge regarding the full network that contributes to this complex phenomenon remains incomplete; additional interdisciplinary research and critical experiments are therefore required "

endocrine > Hormonal system

Edited August 16 by ICURBlessings
spell. cor.

[mattm33]

This thread has really got me thinking. If only me and my nerdy gaming buddy's could have just made ourselves gay back in college. I could've been having daily orgy's with my best friends. Life solved. Is their anything I can take to make myself bisexual? Maybe give my wife that devil's threesome...

[ICURBlessings]

14 hours ago, mattm33 said:

Is this person just trolling? How do they change their hormones? Are you confusing gay and transgender or something?

NIGHTHAWK I repeat what Mattm33 ASKED:  

Are you confusing gay and transgender?

Edited August 16 by ICURBlessings

[ICURBlessings]

21 hours ago, NightHawkBuzz said:

@ICURBlessings ... but I know I'm right. 

You make claims as other extremist have done - same claims that is - not only there is no evidence to youir claim BUT there is evidences against your claim.

You say "... but I know I'm right. " - HOWEVER sorry for my bluntness but I tell you what you are doing is an act of both DELUSION and Self-Righteousness.

Mattm33 ASKED:  Are you confusing gay and transgender? the answer to this question may explains somewhat some of your claims.

[Emerald]

On 8/15/2024 at 5:22 PM, NightHawkBuzz said:

@Emerald It's actual the opposite it is a scientific perspective. The natural hormones inside your body make you attracted to the opposite sex and gay people decide to change that in their bodies. 

Nobody is naturally attracted to the same sex you have to actively decided to do that. 

In the context of your non-evidence-based theories regarding same sex attraction, how do you suppose one actively decides to change the hormones in their body to 'choose' to be attracted to the same sex?

What do you assume the mechanism to be behind changing the hormones?

How do you assume that I changed the hormones in my body to be attracted to both men and women?

What actions do you believe that I took to develop that attraction?

Though I know you're incorrect, I'm asking in earnest because I genuinely want to understand your assumptions about how human sexuality works to come to this conclusion.

Also, since this isn't a viewpoint shared by most people who don't like gay people, I'll be straightforward with you about what this makes me think of. Though I'm aware that this may be interpreted as a "gay person trying to turn you gay".

But this anti-LGBT rationale and the intensity of the fixation/paranoia about LGBT people forcing you to "participate", genuinely makes me suspicious that you might be a closeted gay person who's ashamed and in denial of being gay.

It's somewhat common that, when someone is gay but is raised in context where being gay is taboo, the gay person might feel more comfortable thinking of same sex attraction as a conscious choice that they (and others) can decide upon at will.

And this person can often see the LGBT community as tempters trying to get them to stray from the path, as it is easier to scapegoat LGBT people and blame them for the gay feelings.

So, as long as they keep fighting the good fight of 'choosing to be straight', and don't choose to give into the same sex attractions... that they're straight and therefore 'normal' and acceptable in the eyes of their friends, family, and community.

Another common rationale with repressed gay people is the thought process that same-sex attraction is something that everyone struggles with. And that, if it's normalized or accepted, there would be nothing stopping themselves or anyone else from giving into the same sex urges.

But of course, the reality is that most people are straight and don't have same sex attractions. It's not something that most people "struggle" with. Like 10-20% of people have some degree of same sex attraction and the other 80-90% of people don't.

And it's just comforting for the gay person in denial to think of same-sex attraction as a normal and ubiquitous 'sin' that everyone struggle with but must fight off.

This is what your behavior on this post makes me think.