All of Infinity is Alive and It Exists Right Now.

[Rafael Thundercat]

We dont need to be against Rationality or Intelect. The inteligence of the Body is the signal that this Existence or what we call Universe have as it base a Extremely Inteligent Being,call it God, but not as a Centralized,Separated Inteligence, is a Infused Intelligence, Ingrained into every bit of Itself,every cell, not just human but living in all. Your very skill to read this words and make sense of it derive from it. Is Intelligent and Loving. Only a Loving Being would create such Intelligent Creation. When we fall in Love for Intelligence this Being Respond like Firework inside our Being. Is not a bug in the system,is a feature. Why? Intelligence can only expand into more Intelligence, Love into more Love. Forever. Limits are simply human prejudices and fears. People actually Fear Death, because we fear Infinite Love. The limited fear the Unlimited, the Finite fear Infinity,the drop fear to dissolve into Ocean. But, here did "you" came from anyway. There is no Out-there in a Infinite Whole. You was born inside your Self. One sperm+one egg and Boommm!!!

[Javfly33]

8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If God is absolute and you torture a 5 year old child in front of his parents and then burn them all with gasoline while you dance around them, it is God who is doing it. I guess that it should be necessary to equilibrate the infinity in some point. God is a merciless CEO, a machine of cosmic balance. the business must go on, and if the balance demands that you have to burn, you will burn

In my view there is no God outside of us doing anything.

I have a big issue with people here thinking God is controlling anything or doing anything. 

Is a big mistake, because doing that one never takes responsibility.

 

I have no experience of external God, but of one intelligent unified reality. This intelligent reality appears in humans, animals, insects, even atoms.

For some reason I don´t yet understand, a certain process of duality took place, from that place every piece of Infinity/God picked up a certain tendency according to this duality.

Torture is just the result of this duality. But there seems to be a 'bulletproof' rule in Existence. Torture can happen, but a clear asymmetry in this acts is experienced by the reality. So in a way, the Reality moves towards the simettry and the dissolution of the dualities.

 

[Keryo Koffa]

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

God is merciless, reality includes horrid torture.

14 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

God/Intelligence infuses Creation. Intelligence and Love expand. Limits are prejudices. Limits fear the Unlimited

13 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

There's no outside God, just responsibility ego-games. Intelligence permeates all. Duality=Suffering evolves to unity.

@Javfly33 I wouldn't dismiss larger coordinating holons that function like our idea of god altogether.

We do not understand our intelligence, either it's random luck, evolved programming running on momentum...

Or and take that as a possibility: There's a whole psychic reality behind the scenes that coordinates life and awareness.

And constructs, balances, and aligns the manifestation of our interconnected experiences through our subconsciousnesses.

Edited August 5 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Javfly33 I wouldn't dismiss larger coordinating holons that function like our idea of god altogether.

We do not understand our intelligence, either it's random luck, evolved programming running on momentum...

Or and take that as a possibility: There's a whole psychic reality behind the scenes that coordinates life and awareness.

And constructs, balances, and aligns the manifestation of our interconnected experiences through our subconsciousnesses.

@Keryo Koffa Mmm,Ill have to re-read that today on the mountain peak im trekking this afternoon again, maybe a clearer observation might come up, but at the moment my stance stands firm: we as Life/Awareness have the responsability to take this Creation into a more armonic and unified way.

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Of course everyone has the freedom to do It, since right now everyone is at a duality (this why apparent separate forms), every form can conduce their own process of Liberation and Unity at his own pace, altough the source might be the Same one, different "speeds" and ways of walking this process might be different depending on the form this source is using/encarnated in.

[Keryo Koffa]

@Javfly33 Of course, I agree. What we have control over is 100% our responsibility and we can control what we do.

All I'm saying is that it's too early to dismiss that there's more. But whether there is or not does not change what's here.

It's like: you can take advantage of systems and collaboration, but there's no reason not to give 100% irregardless.

[Keryo Koffa]

5 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

@Breakingthewall 

Just saw a post in the other section

It reminded me of your point

Well, here's that!

 

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

In my view there is no God outside of us doing anything.

16 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Let's say that god is the totality of existence. I'm not the totality of existence, I'm just a part. I'm the totality in a sense but in other I'm a bubble of conciousness that reach a limited area. A part of infinity, that is the whole infinity as any other part of infinity, but with a concrete state of consciousness right now. Then god is me in another state of consciousness, or as Leo says, level of consciousness. The question would be if there is such state of consciousness or it's just the movement due the infinite bubbles of conciousness coordinated. I'd say the second, there is not a god as a concious being who does things and decide, its just the infinite intelligence coordinating itself. But who knows. 

Edited August 5 by Breakingthewall

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Let's say that god is the totality of existence. I'm not the totality of existence, I'm just a part. I'm the totality in a sense but in other I'm a bubble of conciousness that reach a limited area. A part of infinity, that is the whole infinity as any other part of infinity, but with a concrete state of consciousness right now. Then god is me in another state of consciousness, or as Leo says, level of consciousness. The question would be if there is such state of consciousness or it's just the movement due the infinite bubbles of conciousness coordinated. I'd say the second, there is not a god as a concious being who does things and decide, its just the infinite intelligence coordinating itself. But who knows. 

Same, i think is pretty clear at this point the body and psychological movement is just a part of the Existence, a minuscule part. 

Then the Existence that gives Life to that body + psychological movement is what you are. 

When identification happens Existence ends Up having the perception that is indeed a limited physical thing. 

 

But The identification was not a mistake. All of us have identified. The reason we experience a form is because we are carrying dualistic tendencies even before having a human body. 

I would go Even further and say Even why we have a male body and not female is because of dualistic tendencies.

Ideally the work we are doing is in dissolving this tendencies so we can experience ourselves as the pure Reality.

Not just like an experience but as an Evolution of the Existence, existence is moving somewhere new, is not just Dream after Dream for no reason and only to hallucinate things because God is bored.

 

Edited August 5 by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Not just like an experience but as an Evolution of the Existence, existence is moving somewhere new, is not just Dream after Dream for no reason and only to hallucinate things because God is bored.

Exactly, existence is moving always to somewhere new, that's the glory of existence and the freedom. Existence is not a trap because it's open, never, in eternity, reach the end. 

When I have had moments, with 5meo, LSD or weed (never totally sober unfortunately), of total dissolution and realization of absolute existence, I, as absolute existence have a feeling: hallelujah. total openness, no end, endless wholeness, absolute joy of being. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Breakingthewall God is no entity, but the coordinated intelligence of infinite holons synergizing.

@Javfly33 Identification creates suffering, yet is no bug but a feature as duality evolves.

@Keryo Koffa If those are your takes, then we might finally agree. I'm still open to the opposites though