Glimpse

[numbersinarow]

Suffering is the very metaphysical core of existence, pleasure is a construct within that.

Even suicide is impossible, if you kill yourself you will live in some other form, perpetually floating around and suffering.

Not even Christ and Buddha could save you or themselves for that matter, they are constructs of suffering.

I caught a glimpse of how evil the supernatural forces/God are. Even 0.0001% of the evil malice required to let human tragedies occur when you have the unbiased universal perspective at your core and every aspect of your mind, is so great that the human mind can't comprehend it. I won't ever bother trying to describe the feeling of seeing that.

The only thing for a human to do is surrender to the suffering, knowing there will be no shields, and infinite involuntary attachment.

[Sugarcoat]

No way out. So scary .

[Sugarcoat]

13 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

I caught a glimpse of how evil the supernatural forces/God are. Even 0.0001% of the evil malice required to let human tragedies occur when you have the unbiased universal perspective at your core and every aspect of your mind, is so great that the human mind can't comprehend it. I won't ever bother trying to describe the feeling of seeing that.

I don’t get this. What u mean

[numbersinarow]

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I don’t get this. What u mean

Because there are supernatural... nevermind, you can put it into google translate if English isn't your first language.

[Sugarcoat]

12 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

Because there are supernatural... nevermind, you can put it into google translate if English isn't your first language.

Enligsh isn’t my first language but I’m still really good at it, it was just the way it was formulated made it a little hard to understand imo

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat There are states where you will have feelings put in you you cant deal with. Things you have never felt before and they are all scary unless you take fear away then you are just feeling them.

Edited August 5 by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

7 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat There are states where you will have feelings put in you you cant deal with. Things you have never felt before and they are all scary unless you take fear away then you are just feeling them.

what states 

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat I dunno there are infinite states of terror

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat I dunno there are infinite states of terror

But you mean like a state you could enter on psychedelics or through some practice? And who is putting those feelings in you? Are they just randomly appearing or you meet some supernatural force? But ofc there’s so much potential terror when you’re human 

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat

 

There are many states of being a human that you or I havent experienced yet or have experienced but forgotten or lost by giving them away. When you do the shadow work you will remeber these sweet states and they have much much more complexity than what we experience as adults. Everything in reality has infinite unique flavour. Each painting created is a unique human experience and emotion but when we look at one painting to another they both look and feel the same unless we deem them special but each one even the non special painting have a unique experience if the brain is in the right state. Each object in the universe is super special with its own experience. God goes into them and experiences them and in a human you can do that but you also get to be locked to the body so you dont have to live as that thing. The human body is like an experience measurement machine that you get locked into so that you can experience something without being it.

So your experience you are having now via your body is the unique special feeling of 1 object you are its totally unique to you. A table can have just as many aspects to itself as a human just different. The amount of uniqueness in the universe is mindblowing .So if you are not walking around like feeling infinite blasts of unique feelings you are missing the human experience.

Its a practice of forgetting you exist and staring at something and tasting it.

You arent the human you are the point where your eyes meet and you can experience where you are its sort of like a pointer you can use to experience seperate objects in reality

the feelings are all within you because you are the no thing that is creating all these things.

Edited August 5 by Hojo

[LastThursday]

Suffering is directly caused by identity. An identity is an actively self sustaining entity or system. It can be anything like a biological identity or mental identity. Any disruption to the identity causes suffering, which is an alarm signal to say it is under attack in some way.

It's interesting to investigate whether something like a car has an identity. Once the ignition is triggered, then the engine and car systems sustain themselves. The car systems have to regulate themselves otherwise the car will stall. Often if those systems are not working correctly then you will get warning lights. In that sense the car "suffers". Or you might have an alarm system against theft, again the car "suffers" by sounding an alarm, if it is compromised in some way.

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

 

Suffering is directly caused by identity. An identity is an actively self sustaining entity or system. It can be anything like a biological identity or mental identity. Any disruption to the identity causes suffering, which is an alarm signal to say it is under attack in some way.

 

 

That was a good way of putting it

[Sugarcoat]

33 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat

 

There are many states of being a human that you or I havent experienced yet or have experienced but forgotten or lost by giving them away. When you do the shadow work you will remeber these sweet states and they have much much more complexity than what we experience as adults. Everything in reality has infinite unique flavour. Each painting created is a unique human experience and emotion but when we look at one painting to another they both look and feel the same unless we deem them special but each one even the non special painting have a unique experience if the brain is in the right state. Each object in the universe is super special with its own experience. God goes into them and experiences them and in a human you can do that but you also get to be locked to the body so you dont have to live as that thing. The human body is like an experience measurement machine that you get locked into so that you can experience something without being it.

So your experience you are having now via your body is the unique special feeling of 1 object you are its totally unique to you. A table can have just as many aspects to itself as a human just different. The amount of uniqueness in the universe is mindblowing .So if you are not walking around like feeling infinite blasts of unique feelings you are missing the human experience.

Its a practice of forgetting you exist and staring at something and tasting it.

You arent the human you are the point where your eyes meet and you can experience where you are its sort of like a pointer you can use to experience seperate objects in reality

the feelings are all within you because you are the no thing that is creating all these things.

Ok I see. I think I can understand some of what you mean. 

[Hojo]

@SugarcoatNp as another one imagine God is like the point in your vision where your eyes meet and its just there with no identity so its not stuck to thinking its human. with no identity its focused on an apple suddenly its inside the apple and reality its just black and the space where you feel your body right now becomes like hard and has all the sensations of an apple you can feel and taste and smell and experience the energy in the apple and it becomes it because it has no identity. If its not conscious its nothing it will just stay that way until its destroyed. If it knows its nothing it can focus on itself and leave. And a human body is a way God can do this and have an identity.

Edited August 5 by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

@SugarcoatNp as another one imagine God is like the point in your vision where your eyes meet and its just there with no identity so its not stuck to thinking its human. with no identity its focused on an apple suddenly its inside the apple and reality its just black and the space where you feel your body right now becomes like hard and has all the sensations of an apple you can feel and taste and smell and experience the energy in the apple and it becomes it because it has no identity. If its not conscious its nothing it will just stay that way until its destroyed. If it knows its nothing it can focus on itself and leave. And a human body is a way God can do this and have an identity.

👍🏻

[Javfly33]

That's because your glimpse was just more psychological baggage.

You don´t understand what Existence is. Is completely outside your psychological imagination, suffering or not suffering, that belongs to the realm of your mind.

[numbersinarow]

18 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

That's because your glimpse was just more psychological baggage.

You don´t understand what Existence is. Is completely outside your psychological imagination, suffering or not suffering, that belongs to the realm of your mind.

That's because all your psychedelic trips were reliant on a cheat code AKA drugs.

Thinking about some tragedy that doesn't affect me directly and thinking about how god allowed it is not related to my baggage. "But your mind is wired by the baggage to think that way." Well no, all human minds are wired that way in some way, outside of mental illnesses, which is to say, to be more moral than a god that allows suffering.

[numbersinarow]

23 hours ago, Hojo said:

@SugarcoatNp as another one imagine God is like the point in your vision where your eyes meet and its just there with no identity so its not stuck to thinking its human. with no identity its focused on an apple suddenly its inside the apple and reality its just black and the space where you feel your body right now becomes like hard and has all the sensations of an apple you can feel and taste and smell and experience the energy in the apple and it becomes it because it has no identity. If its not conscious its nothing it will just stay that way until its destroyed. If it knows its nothing it can focus on itself and leave. And a human body is a way God can do this and have an identity.

And you conveniently forget about this when you do the very physical, very material activity of acquiring psychedelic drugs? Well no. So this method here is incompatible with psychedelics. Which is to say more bad about psychedelics than about it at all. So if you're against psychedelic use, then you're not contradicting yourself by saying  this.

[numbersinarow]

I randomly couldn't fall asleep for 2+ hours after waking up in the night today because I had the intention to use a lucid dream to simulate torturing someone. Despite not feeling any stress about it.

Here's a question for the people who think they have the right to disagree with me about the code of reality being infinite suffering:

Why doesn't your amazing, vast knowledge let you know that the supernatural exists, and interferes with the human world? Because it does. The experiments of Carl Jung prove this. My own experiment proved supernatural luck is 99.99% likely to be real, and different for different people. Your god is not benevolent, this is a world of torture, unfairness etc. even on a SUPERNATURAL level. It is truly a dying corpse as christ said.

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, numbersinarow said:

That's because all your psychedelic trips were reliant on a cheat code AKA drugs.

 

You assume incorrect things.

Havent touch a psychedelic in 2 years dude.

All of my past 100 awakenings have been "sober". 

You need Claritiy , beyond the psychological realm as i said.

1 hour ago, numbersinarow said:

 how god allowed it is not related to my baggage. "But your mind is wired by the baggage to think that way." 

@numbersinarow more assumptions. This one is Big. You assume there is a such a thing as a God allowing anything.

There is no god allowing or preventing anything. 

You are inside a phenomena or pure energy which is auto-created. 

The main issue is that which create itself Lost itself too much in his own imagination and manifestation (form, thoughts, etc...).

 

You can cry or you can actually do something out of the mess. 

But trust me, no God will help you because there is Nothing outside of you doing anything. Is absolute you Alone here and you can either Liberate Yourself from your imagination or get more and more entangled in It.

Which Direction you want to take? 

Edited August 6 by Javfly33