Ralston's Final Awakening?

[Thought Art]

@Water by the River English only, review forum guidelines 

[Terell Kirby]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I still consider that human.

hmm .. seems one can awaken within limited consciousness of a human. But that can be expanded to something non human .. which wouldn’t make it human anymore? I would assume that expansion wouldn’t necessarily include an awakening/God Realization .. but it could with enough contemplation, deconstruction work.

Any update on your Awakening courses?

Edited August 4 by Terell Kirby

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Water by the River said:

And that continues until it is no more fun, looses its fascination, and the wave drops in the River and dissolves into Infinite Being.

Reading you it's seen that you believe in karmic continuity after death. How do you explain this? Let's say that the human that you are is happening within the timeless field of consciousness like a dream, and within that dream there are infinite dreams, turtles or whatever. At a given moment Waterriver disappears and a new cycle begins taking Waterriver's karmic structure as a base. but at the same time other infinite cycles are going out and starting having other karmic structures as a basis, "yours" is within all of them and all of them are within your cycle. So how can you consider it "yours"? There is no continuity since you, once you disappear, are equally your cycle or any other cycle. Let's say that the karmic structures in the end are only empty frameworks, not "you". 

[Vibes]

On 8/2/2024 at 5:58 PM, Water by the River said:

Leo walked on mathematical terrain, came up with a half true half false interpretation (that you will live all possible lives). At the same time he says God will never run out of realms to explore.

Truth is, and can be proven with Cantors Set Theory of differently sized Infinities and a little bit of logical deduction: God can go on exploring for Infinity the smaller Infinity, and is not exploring all possible lives (larger Infinities), and yet will never run out of lives to explore (the smaller Infinity, which is still... Infinity. To be explored forever.

Practical meaning of that: Not all of your Horror Shows/lifes will be experienced. God is not stupid. And yet the show will go on forever. But some Horrow shows are and will be experienced by some perspectives. Tends to clean up some Karma.

That can be understand with Cantors Set Theory and its differently sized Infinities. Its not so hard with the specific examples of Infinities Cantor used to deduct his theory. That will answer this point.

 

I've said that a few times in the past because it doesn't make sense to experience every single possibility, but they want me to live in fear and existential despair waiting for my next dreadful life and looking over my shoulder at every step in this incarnation... But whatever, what do I know anyway

Edited August 4 by Vibes

[Water by the River]

21 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Reading you it's seen that you believe in karmic continuity after death. How do you explain this? Let's say that the human that you are is happening within the timeless field of consciousness like a dream, and within that dream there are infinite dreams, turtles or whatever. At a given moment Waterriver disappears and a new cycle begins taking Waterriver's karmic structure as a base. but at the same time other infinite cycles are going out and starting having other karmic structures as a basis, "yours" is within all of them and all of them are within your cycle. So how can you consider it "yours"? There is no continuity since you, once you disappear, are equally your cycle or any other cycle. Let's say that the karmic structures in the end are only empty frameworks, not "you". 

David Spangler, Subtle Worlds, An Explorer's Field Notes, Chapter 8 Soul

"The soul, to me, is the ultimate origin point for each of our incarnations (you will note that I take reincarnation for granted and always have, particularly since that experience when I was seven). It is who we actually are, a hyperdimensional consciousness existing in what I think of as the “soul levels” of the higher-order worlds.

By its very nature, the soul generally cannot take full incarnation in the physical world. There is too much of it, so to speak, and it is too differently configured as a higher dimensional being and consciousness, to fit into this three-dimensional space. What does incarnate, however, is a part of the soul that organizes itself specifically for taking the incarnational journey into the earth. I think of it as a fractal of the soul."

 

No problem to create such a game as Infinite Reality. Just spark some more dimensions/Holons that carry this information from lifetime to lifetime. Seen from a mathematical perspective no problem, the mathematics of our realm can handle an Infinity of (even nested and fractal) dimensions easily. So it is easy for Infinite Being to play this game, since already our realm-mathematics can do it, and that mathematics is contained in Infinite Reality.

Infinite Reality doesn't have to, but can play this game (one of the many alternatives to a sophisticated multi-life-dream with souls is for example spawning an on-the-fly dream at night with imagined background-story also no problem (believed even if totally incoherent, like "where did I park my car").

And in the end its all illusion and appearance, including this higher dimensional soul. But with relative reality/appearance to it. But as long as this Karma-Soul-Game is played, and one is not immune to suffering, better respect the rules of the game...

Although my view is higher than the sky, my respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour.
-Padmasambhava

Btw., this is not idle speculation, but direct experience of Spangler and many others. For example Jac O'Keffee, Jürgen Ziewe, Chris Bache, and many many others over the millenia.

 

 

[Water by the River]

23 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Water by the River English only, review forum guidelines 

Wasn't aware of that English-only concerning quotes. But no problem, I will always add a translation, if that is ok then.

WbtR even got a warning point, although not by Thought Art. Which interestingly evaporated today without any complaint from my side. Hey, who stole my warning point?!  BazookaJesus would have been so proud of me. But anyways, Gracie! - Thank you! Hope you get my humour  

Water by the River always had a hard time learning this simple fact: "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses". - If you had kept your silence, you would have stayed a philosopher.  Karmic overhang I would guess. Maybe it evaporates after this life, who knows... (hermitage here i come ) - although I don't think so...

Mumbling in German, English, a liiiitle bit of French, and some Latin quotes (never learned it, but once had a GF learning it.. not for the faint of hearted) by the River

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Water by the River said:

No problem to create such a game as Infinite Reality. Just spark some more dimensions/Holons that carry this information from lifetime to lifetime

Seems quite possible but I wouldn't say it's a game, I'd say it's the inevitable movement of the infinity. Seems too personal someone creating a game .

Anyway, You would agree that a given cycle of birth and death is finite. So it seems a logical idea that all the cycles of birth and death are in turn part of a total cosmic cycle that is itself finite. infinite in that it restarts infinitely, but each soul or whatever has a finite path. So, the idea of Buddhism 1.0 could be correct, in fact it seems more logical than infinite ascending cycles, since if so, you would have already done infinite ascending cycles. If one life is cyclical, all the life or existence should be cyclical too. Then, in a given moment you merge with the whole, and when every holon is in that point, the cosmic cycle restart. 

Edited August 5 by Breakingthewall

[What Am I]

@Water by the River Have you ever used psychedelics? Some of them (especially DMT) can really reveal aspects of the hyperdimensional soul. It's exactly as described in that book, where the experience is just too profound and expansive to fit back into the regular human experience, and much of it slips away upon return. But then what's also interesting is that all previous memories of the space are unlocked when it's reentered. It's as if you pick up where you previously left off.

[Keryo Koffa]

On 8/4/2024 at 7:09 AM, Inliytened1 said:

@Leo Gura You aren't in a human state of Consciousness when you wake up.  Duh.

On 8/4/2024 at 7:28 AM, Leo Gura said:

@Inliytened1 I still consider that human.

[Breakingthewall]

Even if a cosmic cycle has a beginning and an end, there are infinitely many cosmic cycles, and these are not sequential in time, since time is only one dimension of this reality. The infinite cycles are now superimposed, cycles upon cycles, eternal, changing realities, springing up infinitely, and all of them are a hologram that evaporates and the reality that is, I, you, the being of total depth remains as real, always here. 

[OBEler]

20 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

 oh man is that good 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Nemra Gotcha! But I gotta keep reading and skimming the forum for new ideas and contexts!

Already have a dance-off video ready that's pretty fun, just waiting for the right opportunity to post

After all, I gotta cover for --> Yimpa <-- while he's on (mandatory) vacation! Bless his soul

All of this media production and I'll never get to explaining Stage Coral and Iridescent properly 😅

Or Retrocausality, or the AI Singularity, or Deja Vu, or Aliens, or the Dynamics of Spiral Meta.nics

Edited August 5 by Keryo Koffa

[sleep]

Lol. I wonder if now Ralston with begin all his newsletters with "I've reached a new level of awakening" like Leo does with his videos. 

[OBEler]

3 hours ago, sleep said:

Lol. I wonder if now Ralston with begin all his newsletters with "I've reached a new level of awakening" like Leo does with his videos. 

If he would try 5 meos, then for sure. Otherwise his next new level of awakening would be probably his own death