Why can't Gurus have sex with their followers?

Someone here · August 1

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Isn't God everything, so by this definition, dog poop is divine.

bon appétit

Princess Arabia · August 1

12 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Well..then you are having lame ass weak ass orgasms . If you have mind blowing earth shattering orgasms you will be dead mentally.

You have missed the point. I have had many orgasms in my life; surely I can dedicate one of them to do an experiment. This was a self-induced orgasm, btw. The quality of the orgasm has nothing to do with what i was referring to. I was simply testing to see if thought is possible during orgasms and it is.

gettoefl · August 1

40 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Sorry I strongly disagree.

Sex is divine . Its divinity itself .hell..it's GOD itself .or a window to god . Osho said that the first person who discovered meditation discovered it through an orgasm when he realised that what happens during an orgasm is that the mind is silent . And that's really what we are looking for in sex .the zero mind state .

body is trying to keep you a body - read osho's from sex to superconsciousness - sex needs to be dropped, it is just a taste to convince you that there is something blissful available to you, it is your first encounter with the divine ... there is much more and much profounder available

best wishes

Someone here · August 1

6 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

body is trying to keep you a body - read osho's from sex to superconsciousness - sex needs to be dropped, it is just a taste to convince you that there is something blissful available to you, it is your first encounter with the divine ... there is much more and much profounder available

best wishes

Thanks I have read that book actually. And that reference that I mentioned (about discovering meditativeness via sex) is actually from that very book you've mentioned .

There is also nothing in this physical world that feels better than sex . If you're talking about pleasure or ecstasy ..then sex produces the highest rate of dopamine in the brain more than any other activity like eating a delicious meal or socializing or entertainment etc

Meditation during sex is sex on steroids. You can either use sex to reach heaven or hell . Your choice .

God bless ya 🙏

Princess Arabia · August 1

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

There is also nothing in this physical world that feels better than sex .

Not everybody feels the same and this remark is just relative to you and your experiences. It's not Universal and a given.

LastThursday · August 1

3 hours ago, aurum said:

You’re thinking with the wrong head my friend.

That cracked up so bad 🤣 Carry on... 🤣

Salvijus · August 1

16 minutes ago, Someone here said:

There is also nothing in this physical world that feels better than sex . If you're talking about pleasure or ecstasy ..then sex produces the highest rate of dopamine in the brain more than any other activity like eating a delicious meal or socializing or entertainment etc

What about sky diving

Someone here · August 1

9 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

What about sky diving

No sorry 😂. I'd rather get adrenaline high from running or swimming.

gettoefl · August 1

24 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Thanks I have read that book actually. And that reference that I mentioned (about discovering meditativeness via sex) is actually from that very book you've mentioned .

There is also nothing in this physical world that feels better than sex . If you're talking about pleasure or ecstasy ..then sex produces the highest rate of dopamine in the brain more than any other activity like eating a delicious meal or socializing or entertainment etc

Meditation during sex is sex on steroids. You can either use sex to reach heaven or hell . Your choice .

God bless ya 🙏

everything you said is correct except the last bit ... sex keeps you a body, it's a trap and dead end ... youi won't reach heaven, uniting bodies is just part of the movie, awakening is about a oneness that does not exclude ... that's the road to heaven

thanks for sharing your experience

vibv · August 1

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

There is also nothing in this physical world that feels better than sex . If you're talking about pleasure or ecstasy ..then sex produces the highest rate of dopamine in the brain more than any other activity like eating a delicious meal or socializing or entertainment etc

Oh, there are way better feelings than a sexual orgasm. It's infinite.

Ajay0 · August 2

17 hours ago, Butters said:

But if I was a Guru, my whole cult would be around sex with my female followers. What's the problem with that? My followers get to have the time of their lives while we all enjoy physical contact, which may further enhance our spiritual bonding together.

In Sanskrit, 'Guru' comes from the root words 'gu' meaning darkness or ignorance and 'ru' meaning remover of that darkness. A Guru is one who removes our darkness in the form of ignorance or unconsciousness, and makes a person aware and mindful and adhering to virtuous conduct.

If the system which the teacher teaches prescribes celibacy and abstinence, then it would be hypocrisy on the part of the teacher to have sexual relations with his disciples.

This can be very hard in devotional paths,as the kundalini release can results in much higher sex drive and only a well-trained and experienced teacher who has a disciplined lifestyle,good physical-mental fitness, and character can withstand the same, and properly channel it to higher states of consciousness.

This is the reason why scandals are common among priests and spiritual teachers in all religions.

If the teacher is enlightened though, this will not be an issue.

Sex is not forbidden in the left-handed path of tantra, provided the Guru has the proper qualifications for it, and can guide the disciple or partner to higher states of consciousness. But the left-handed path is very hard and the erring aspirant can easily move to lower states of consciousness instead.

Edited August 2 by Ajay0

Ajay0 · August 2

Mooji basically teaches nonduality, and that too in a western atmosphere. I don't think he will insist on moral rules and stuff related to sex as that would drive away most of his western disciples, and would be liberal with them.

Mental health issues and depression amongst western nations is very high and high health care expenses involved ensures that most westerners does not get the treatment they require, and hence it is possible that some of his disciples may be having mental health issues , but is finding peace and tranquility in Mooji's presence and his teachings.

It is said that being in a Buddha's presence can bring about healing through increase in prana/chi.

Edited August 2 by Ajay0

Dodo · August 2

Statutory rape

What you describe is not a spiritual gathering, but an orgy.

If you're into that stuff there is a place for that, just dont corrupt spiritual seekers with your own dark desires.

Keep those only as fantasies at best.

Edited August 2 by Dodo

Husseinisdoingfine · August 2

I see you’re taking inspiration from Osho.

Edited August 2 by Husseinisdoingfine

An young being · August 2

Sex is no different from other pleasures, if enjoying a spicy and tasty fried meat has a pleasure rating of 5 on a scale of 10, animalistic sex would have something around 9 to 10.

Sex can be done in different forms, and each carries different pleasure levels.

Pure animalistic sex or masturbation with only the urge to quench your thirst or desire without regard for the heart has the highest pleasure and hence the highest pain, especially for those with desires set on a spiritual path.

Sex with the intention to feel pleasure mutually and connect with your partner romantically has a mixture of both pleasure and bliss.

Tantric sex with a pure intention to connect with eyes and immerse in love with your partner or yourself has lower pleasure and higher bliss.

Anything that is pleasurable is selfish in nature, and hence comes back to you in the form of pain one way or the other. When you are indulging in pleasurable activities like sex, eating, watching shorts or anything else, the activity itself may not be a hindrance to spiritual path, but with what intention you do the activity or how selfish you are while setting your intention or doing it.

An young being · August 2

4 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

WOW, this view is so accurate 😍

Thank you 💚

Keryo Koffa · August 2

5 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

I have read it as "fries" (like potato fries) lol
I can be so blind sometimes to the word meat

Wheat is great, you can make lots of foods out of that! Or did you mean beet as in beetroot?

Hojo · August 2

they probably do. A man can make a woman cum so hard they see God. I had sex with a woman she said she saw static and then turned into a buddhist

Edited August 2 by Hojo