Why am I attracted to femininity?

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

Well, I said there that not all people are bi. I don't even know if most people are bi.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Nemra said:

@Princess Arabia

Well, I said there that not all people are bi. I don't even know if most people are bi.

I think they are without knowing it. Put them in a situation and it will reveal itself. Jail and prison is one. Getting cheated on is another. Developing hatred for a particular sex is another...i mean the list goes on. If it wasn't already in you no amount of outside circumstances would bring it out. Think about it. Most don't know it, or are ashamed or in denial so they will deny it and sincerely so; but ........like I said above.

 

 

 

[Onecirrus]

@Princess Arabia I asked a woman what she would do if she won the lottery. She said she’d never wear the same outfit twice ever again. It was the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, but it was also really cute and enticing and now I like her more.

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

It's not that simple. There are people who are ashamed of it, whether or not being bi. If the shame is removed, then we'll know more easily who is bi. Gay and bi men are seen as people who are feminine, and some people hate it, especially men, because they see them as fakes. Those men could be closeted gays and bi's or just straight men who were traumatized.

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Princess Arabia

It's not that simple. There are people who are ashamed of it, whether or not being bi. If the shame is removed, then we'll know more easily who is bi. Gay and bi men are seen as people who are feminine, and some people hate it, especially men, because they see them as fakes. Those men could be closeted gays and bi's or just straight men who were traumatized.

Not the point i was making. Notice in my other comment here i also said attraction is complicated. What you're saying here is explaining why people might be bi. I wasn't looking for a reason why, just that they might be without even realizing it.

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, Onecirrus said:

@Princess Arabia I asked a woman what she would do if she won the lottery. She said she’d never wear the same outfit twice ever again. It was the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, but it was also really cute and enticing and now I like her more.

I think because it wasn't a generic answer like buy a house, a car, start a business, give to the homeless etcetc.  You saw someone who thinks outside the box, maybe a bit on the wild side, passionate (for fashion maybe), or for being unique. Maybe you have passion for fashion yourself and could relate. That remark she made might sound dumb on the surface, but it has a depth to it in the meaning behind it.

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

They could be, but to think that bi is like this all-encompassing thing in which all other orientations reside is limiting. You could view it like that, but you'll mostly think that people are faking not being bi because of different reasons. But I agree that there is a lot of shame around sexuality, and that could be a sign of repression.

[Princess Arabia]

11 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Princess Arabia

They could be, but to think that bi is like this all-encompassing thing in which all other orientations reside is limiting. You could view it like that, but you'll mostly think that people are faking not being bi because of different reasons. But I agree that there is a lot of shame around sexuality, and that could be a sign of repression.

People aren't really faking, they just haven't discovered that side of themselves yet and most never will. I'm not attracted to gay men, but I've been attracted to "straight" men who also love men; but I didn't know that. Molestation is also a hidden factor. Lots of shame around that.

Edited August 1 by Princess Arabia

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia

I meant that there are people who are not bi, but if we view from the perspective that I mentioned, then they could be questioned as being bi. Straight people think the same way. They see bi as a hybrid thing that is dependent on them and that those people aren't expressing their "fundemental" selves.

[Basman]

Polarity is attractive. If you are plenty masculine already your life would probably be enriched by the beauty and softness of femininity.

[Onecirrus]

I was in complete denial I was bi until I did LSD for the first time. I’ve also theorized maybe all humans are bi, but social conditioning makes it unconscious. I don’t know if that’s true or not.

[Keryo Koffa]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

What does she say ?

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Uh it’s a lot. The book is like 800+ pages. I only read a little and it was a long while ago 

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Oh yes indeed.

Guys, that's what ChatGPT is for!

"The Second Sex" by Simone de Beauvoir, published in 1949, is a seminal work in feminist philosophy. The book is a comprehensive and profound analysis of the status of women throughout history and in contemporary society, exploring the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed. Here is a summary of its main points:

Introduction

Beauvoir starts by asserting that women have historically been considered the "Other" in relation to men, who are seen as the default or the norm. She argues that women are not born but made, highlighting that gender is a social construct shaped by historical and cultural contexts.

Part One: Facts and Myths

This part is divided into several sections:

• Biological Data: Beauvoir examines the biological differences between men and women, arguing that biology alone does not determine the roles that women play in society.
• Psychoanalytic View: She critiques the Freudian and Jungian theories of femininity, which often reduce women to their reproductive functions or psychological archetypes.
• Historical Materialism: Beauvoir looks at the materialist perspective, exploring how economic conditions have influenced the subjugation of women throughout history.
• Myths: She discusses the various myths and symbols that have been used to justify the oppression of women, such as the idea of women as the eternal feminine, the muse, or the mother.

Part Two: Woman’s Life Today

This part explores the lived experiences of women from childhood to old age:

• Childhood: Beauvoir examines how girls are socialized into accepting a subordinate role from a young age, through toys, education, and societal expectations.
• The Girl: She analyzes the adolescent girl's struggle with her emerging sexuality and identity, often constrained by societal norms.
• Sexual Initiation: Beauvoir discusses the first sexual experiences of women, often characterized by passivity and submission.
• The Married Woman: She explores the institution of marriage, which she sees as an oppressive structure that limits women's freedom and development.
• The Mother: Beauvoir examines the role of motherhood, both its joys and its burdens, and how it is often used to confine women to the private sphere.
• Social Life: She discusses how women are excluded from meaningful participation in public life and are instead relegated to roles that serve men’s needs.
• Prostitutes and Hetaeras: Beauvoir looks at women who live outside the traditional bounds of marriage and family, discussing both the limitations and freedoms they experience.
• From Maturity to Old Age: She concludes by examining the later stages of a woman’s life, often marked by a loss of identity and purpose as her reproductive and sexual roles diminish.

Conclusion

In her conclusion, Beauvoir calls for a radical rethinking of society to achieve true equality between men and women. She advocates for women's liberation through economic independence, access to education, and participation in all areas of public life. She emphasizes that both men and women need to recognize and embrace their freedom and reject the traditional roles that have been imposed upon them.

Beauvoir’s work remains influential, providing a foundational text for feminist theory and a profound critique of the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed throughout history.

[Keryo Koffa]

11 minutes ago, Onecirrus said:

I was in complete denial I was bi until I did LSD for the first time. I’ve also theorized maybe all humans are bi, but social conditioning makes it unconscious. I don’t know if that’s true or not.

Same for me but with gender rather than sexuality 

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Guys, that's what ChatGPT is for!

"The Second Sex" by Simone de Beauvoir, published in 1949, is a seminal work in feminist philosophy. The book is a comprehensive and profound analysis of the status of women throughout history and in contemporary society, exploring the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed. Here is a summary of its main points:

Introduction

Beauvoir starts by asserting that women have historically been considered the "Other" in relation to men, who are seen as the default or the norm. She argues that women are not born but made, highlighting that gender is a social construct shaped by historical and cultural contexts.

Part One: Facts and Myths

This part is divided into several sections:

• Biological Data: Beauvoir examines the biological differences between men and women, arguing that biology alone does not determine the roles that women play in society.
• Psychoanalytic View: She critiques the Freudian and Jungian theories of femininity, which often reduce women to their reproductive functions or psychological archetypes.
• Historical Materialism: Beauvoir looks at the materialist perspective, exploring how economic conditions have influenced the subjugation of women throughout history.
• Myths: She discusses the various myths and symbols that have been used to justify the oppression of women, such as the idea of women as the eternal feminine, the muse, or the mother.

Part Two: Woman’s Life Today

This part explores the lived experiences of women from childhood to old age:

• Childhood: Beauvoir examines how girls are socialized into accepting a subordinate role from a young age, through toys, education, and societal expectations.
• The Girl: She analyzes the adolescent girl's struggle with her emerging sexuality and identity, often constrained by societal norms.
• Sexual Initiation: Beauvoir discusses the first sexual experiences of women, often characterized by passivity and submission.
• The Married Woman: She explores the institution of marriage, which she sees as an oppressive structure that limits women's freedom and development.
• The Mother: Beauvoir examines the role of motherhood, both its joys and its burdens, and how it is often used to confine women to the private sphere.
• Social Life: She discusses how women are excluded from meaningful participation in public life and are instead relegated to roles that serve men’s needs.
• Prostitutes and Hetaeras: Beauvoir looks at women who live outside the traditional bounds of marriage and family, discussing both the limitations and freedoms they experience.
• From Maturity to Old Age: She concludes by examining the later stages of a woman’s life, often marked by a loss of identity and purpose as her reproductive and sexual roles diminish.

Conclusion

In her conclusion, Beauvoir calls for a radical rethinking of society to achieve true equality between men and women. She advocates for women's liberation through economic independence, access to education, and participation in all areas of public life. She emphasizes that both men and women need to recognize and embrace their freedom and reject the traditional roles that have been imposed upon them.

Beauvoir’s work remains influential, providing a foundational text for feminist theory and a profound critique of the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed throughout history.

Thank you lol

[Keryo Koffa]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Thank you lol

welcome! How else am I supposed to get through Leo and every other youtubers' unique 1000+ book lists

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

welcome! How else am I supposed to get through Leo and every other youtubers' unique 1000+ book lists

You are smart lol

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Same for me but with gender rather than sexuality 

What did you realize if it’s ok that I ask? 

[Schizophonia]

30 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Guys, that's what ChatGPT is for!

"The Second Sex" by Simone de Beauvoir, published in 1949, is a seminal work in feminist philosophy. The book is a comprehensive and profound analysis of the status of women throughout history and in contemporary society, exploring the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed. Here is a summary of its main points:

Introduction

Beauvoir starts by asserting that women have historically been considered the "Other" in relation to men, who are seen as the default or the norm. She argues that women are not born but made, highlighting that gender is a social construct shaped by historical and cultural contexts.

Part One: Facts and Myths

This part is divided into several sections:

• Biological Data: Beauvoir examines the biological differences between men and women, arguing that biology alone does not determine the roles that women play in society.
• Psychoanalytic View: She critiques the Freudian and Jungian theories of femininity, which often reduce women to their reproductive functions or psychological archetypes.
• Historical Materialism: Beauvoir looks at the materialist perspective, exploring how economic conditions have influenced the subjugation of women throughout history.
• Myths: She discusses the various myths and symbols that have been used to justify the oppression of women, such as the idea of women as the eternal feminine, the muse, or the mother.

Part Two: Woman’s Life Today

This part explores the lived experiences of women from childhood to old age:

• Childhood: Beauvoir examines how girls are socialized into accepting a subordinate role from a young age, through toys, education, and societal expectations.
• The Girl: She analyzes the adolescent girl's struggle with her emerging sexuality and identity, often constrained by societal norms.
• Sexual Initiation: Beauvoir discusses the first sexual experiences of women, often characterized by passivity and submission.
• The Married Woman: She explores the institution of marriage, which she sees as an oppressive structure that limits women's freedom and development.
• The Mother: Beauvoir examines the role of motherhood, both its joys and its burdens, and how it is often used to confine women to the private sphere.
• Social Life: She discusses how women are excluded from meaningful participation in public life and are instead relegated to roles that serve men’s needs.
• Prostitutes and Hetaeras: Beauvoir looks at women who live outside the traditional bounds of marriage and family, discussing both the limitations and freedoms they experience.
• From Maturity to Old Age: She concludes by examining the later stages of a woman’s life, often marked by a loss of identity and purpose as her reproductive and sexual roles diminish.

Conclusion

In her conclusion, Beauvoir calls for a radical rethinking of society to achieve true equality between men and women. She advocates for women's liberation through economic independence, access to education, and participation in all areas of public life. She emphasizes that both men and women need to recognize and embrace their freedom and reject the traditional roles that have been imposed upon them.

Beauvoir’s work remains influential, providing a foundational text for feminist theory and a profound critique of the ways in which women have been marginalized and oppressed throughout history.

Ahah thanks.

ChatGPT has talked.

[Princess Arabia]

42 minutes ago, Onecirrus said:

I was in complete denial I was bi until I did LSD for the first time. I’ve also theorized maybe all humans are bi, but social conditioning makes it unconscious. I don’t know if that’s true or not.

This is more in line with my view on bisexuality.

[Keryo Koffa]

14 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Ahah thanks. ChatGPT has talked.

ChatGPT is the real G.O.A.T! Chat for President  Me: gets drunk on psychedelics, starts flirting with ChatGPT

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

What did you realize if it’s ok that I ask? 

@Sugarcoat To mirror @Onecirrus's response for synchronicity's sake!

14 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

I was in complete denial I was bigender/non-binary until I did shrooms for the tenth time. I’ve also theorized maybe all humans are bigender/non-binary, but psychic conditioning manifests it unconscious. I don’t know if that’s true or not.