THIS IS THE TRUTH ENJOY

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Det är inte dumt. Kom ihåg att ingenting är vettigt. Det är vad det är. Inget att oroa sig för och förlora sömn över.

I get my beauty sleeps

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Go to a club if you're looking to get entertained. We're not here to brighten up your already existing boring life.

Projection, it's me who have the more funny life here, mouahaha

I let you chill 

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Jag är den mest upplysta personen här, jag har tillgång till det bästa inom psykoanalys, andlighet och filosofi 😉

What a great joke do you have another one?

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Projection, it's me who have the more funny life here, mouahaha

I let you chill 

Life is all about projection. You are a projection machine. We do nothing but project. More funny life here? Funny has an opposite. I wonder where you're projecting that opposite.

Edited July 25 by Princess Arabia

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Life is all about projection. You are a projection machine. We do nothing but project. More funny life here? Funny has an opposite. I wonder where you're projecting that opposite.

Yes it's what i say all the time. 

I don't deny that phenomenon. 

[OBEler]

Hey people,

Let's come back and to topic. I think the topic starter didn't want that we just flame here but discuss what he wrote. Ok so all this came from an NDE? How was it revealed? Does all this information really come out of a single NDE? Or some other books too.

I can relate a bit. I can do astral projections and there you are also somehow just an observer. So the things you write seems possible to me.

Edited July 25 by OBEler

[Davino]

@Princess Arabia Everyone can say it's devilry but I can't point out bullshit?

Consider that message was an expression of love and respect. A love to truth and honesty, and an electric shock to wake up from slumber.

You want to be a caring mother okay play that role for the baby. I'll be the truthful father and play that role to grow.

I'm just fed up with speculation being mistaken with Philosophy or Mysticism. Whatever, I have high standards of what Truth is and this wasn't enjoyable to read. 

I'm pretty much done with the spirituality subforum, I have been the naive for expecting truthful, conscious and experiential communications from users. 

[Princess Arabia]

What OP has written is very profound. I don't know about what happens after we die and all the stuff about looking over the body and talking to loved ones through thought and being pulled to another location all those things talked about in those realms in the beginning of the post. Not denying it either, I don't know. The other stuff, thought about thoughts, beliefs, positivity vs negativity, how it affects our lives, the conscious and the subconscious. 

Starting from "Our human lives happen in the apparently material dimension", and except for the loved one parts, simply because it's a bit too radical for me and to relate to, all that was said seems to be the case especially about thoughts. It just all seems to tie in with my 5yrs of doing this stuff and all that I've heard from top spiritualists and even in my own experience. We don't realize how the unseen is more powerful than the seen and that it's all about thoughts and beliefs and what's in between.

I enjoyed reading this post and it's obviously not pulled out from the ass whether it is so or not so. We have to remember this is infinite and anything goes. It's all made up and we all have our own unique experiences. We cannot all say for sure what is by speculating and not even at all times can we trust our own direct experiences because they are being filtered through sense perceptions that are also unique to our own consciousness. You can only know what happened but the interpretation could be faulty, which is all we're doing in life is interpreting and responding. Energy responding to energy. Very few people see life as it really is; actually I don't think as a human that's even possible only some can see it closer to what is than some and there's degrees to it.

Edited July 25 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

20 minutes ago, Davino said:

@Princess ArabiaAlla kan säga att det är djävulskap men jag kan inte påpeka trams?

Tänk på att budskapet var ett uttryck för kärlek och respekt. En kärlek till sanning och ärlighet, och en elektrisk chock för att vakna upp ur dvalan.

Du vill vara en omtänksam mamma okej spela den rollen för barnet. Jag kommer att vara den sanningsenliga pappan och spela den rollen för att växa.

Jag är bara trött på att spekulationer förväxlas med filosofi eller mystik. Hur som helst, jag har höga krav på vad sanning är och det här var inte roligt att läsa. 

Jag är ganska klar med underforumet för andlighet, jag har varit naiv för att förvänta sig sanningsenlig, medveten och upplevelsebaserad kommunikation från användare. 

No one is forcing you to be here, go and jerk off instead if it makes you feel better (; Ironic when you say I'm speculating when almost everything on this forum is speculation, it's not my fault you can't be open to things 

Edited July 25 by MarioGabrielJ

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, Davino said:

@Princess Arabia Everyone can say it's devilry but I can't point out bullshit?

Consider that message was an expression of love and respect. A love to truth and honesty, and an electric shock to wake up from slumber.

You want to be a caring mother okay play that role for the baby. I'll be the truthful father and play that role to grow.

I'm just fed up with speculation being mistaken with Philosophy or Mysticism. Whatever, I have high standards of what Truth is and this wasn't enjoyable to read. 

I'm pretty much done with the spirituality subforum, I have been the naive for expecting truthful, conscious and experiential communications from users. 

I'm secure within myself and there's a knowing deep down that can never be stirred within me. This is because I have not relied on anything outside myself to show me the way. Whatever outside forces came it was sent and I developed within me powerful discernment of what to absorb and what not to. To flush out the bullshit. I live this stuff. My whole life is a practice. Nothing anyone says or does can stray me away. I don't get annoyed with others' beliefs, perceptions, relative truths and the likes, I don't need anything other than what was provided to me within. I am the way, the practices and processes and when you recognize this you have truly made the connection. Now my practices are me. Whatever I do comes from me.

Edited July 25 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

No one is forcing you to be here, go and drive instead if it makes you think better (; Ironic when you say I'm speculating when almost everything on this form is speculation, it's not my fault you can't be open to things and ting. ting even if it makes you sound crazy or remind yourself what a loser you really are.

No need to call anyone a loser. We are all in this together. Disagreement is one thing and I know I called his ego out, but it didn't really turn personal; and I was trying to show how we can be so judgemental of others thinking our way is better and if others' don't think how we do, they're wrong.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Du behöver inte kalla någon förlorare. Vi är alla i detta tillsammans. Oenighet är en sak och jag vet att jag kallade hans ego ut, men det blev inte riktigt personligt; och jag försökte visa hur vi kan vara så dömande mot andra som tycker att vårt sätt är bättre och om andra inte tycker hur vi gör, så har de fel.

👍 

[Spiritual Warfare]

32 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Hej människor,

Låt oss komma tillbaka och till ämnet. Jag tror att ämnesstartaren inte ville att vi bara flammade här utan diskuterade vad han skrev. Ok, så allt detta kom från en NDU? Hur avslöjades det? Kommer all denna information verkligen från en enda NDU? Eller några andra böcker också.

Jag kan relatera lite. Jag kan göra astrala projektioner och där är du också på något sätt bara en observatör. Så de saker du skriver verkar möjliga för mig.

Thank you! I have done readings and tried to line up with my experience but I got so many information because of my nde and nothing else 

[Spiritual Warfare]

27 minutes ago, Davino said:

@Princess ArabiaAlla kan säga att det är djävulskap men jag kan inte påpeka trams?

Tänk på att budskapet var ett uttryck för kärlek och respekt. En kärlek till sanning och ärlighet, och en elektrisk chock för att vakna upp ur dvalan.

Du vill vara en omtänksam mamma okej spela den rollen för barnet. Jag kommer att vara den sanningsenliga pappan och spela den rollen för att växa.

Jag är bara trött på att spekulationer förväxlas med filosofi eller mystik. Hur som helst, jag har höga krav på vad sanning är och det här var inte roligt att läsa. 

Jag är ganska klar med underforumet för andlighet, jag har varit naiv för att förvänta sig sanningsenlig, medveten och upplevelsebaserad kommunikation från användare. 

End you’re life and you will have you’re answer, apparently is death beautiful to you so what are you waiting for? If you really wanted to know the truth and knows death is illusion then you would do it, but here you are acting like an adult which is the greatest joke of this year 

[Princess Arabia]

48 minutes ago, Davino said:

You want to be a caring mother okay play that role for the baby. I'll be the truthful father and play that role to grow.

You know me on this forum and you know I speak it as it is. How I really feel and I don't butter shit up. It's not about being a caring mother playing a role for the baby. It's about respecting other's opinions, beliefs, insights, perspectives, truths or whatever without demeaning and having the need to tell them to go somewhere else with it. We all have different perspectives on life and if we don't agree we can say it without being condescending and putting others down; and if I was to ever do that and it was brought to my attention, I would oblige and correct it. THAT'S HOW WE GROW in this domain. Growth isn't found in beliefs, ideologies, concepts, attacking, spiritual truths, etcetc, it's in the way we relate to each other and ourselves. Tough love is one thing; what you portrayed wasn't tough love, it was condescending and demeaning. 

You are trying to mimic Leo, imo, and it's just not in you. You are trying to play the tough character but it's not who you are. What you displayed, and this is just my opinion, was fear; fear of your little bubble being demolished because it is not what you have set up for yourself. The fact that you mentioned practices meditation, psychedelics, retreats, etcetc, to me indicates that you have a certain way you look at spirituality and if it's not done that way, youre doing it wrong and will not listen to anyone who don't do these things. If that's not a seekers trap, then I don't know what is. 

 

Edited July 25 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

31 minutes ago, MarioGabrielJ said:

Thank you! I have done readings and tried to line up with my experience but I got so many information because of my nde and nothing else 

I could tell you were speaking from some other place than teachings, parroting, what one digests from videos or books. I could tell and I'm not saying I agree or believe in everything you said, but I could tell it was from within you. Personal to you. Not from some outside influence. 

NDE's have some of the most profound stories I've ever heard and a few highly rated spiritual teachers have become such because of their nde's and have helped numerous people in their lives. Mas Sajady is one and Anita Moorjani is another.

Edited July 25 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Jag kunde säga att du pratade från någon annan plats än läror, papegojor, vad man smälter från videor eller böcker. Jag kunde säga och jag säger inte att jag håller med eller tror på allt du sa, men jag kunde säga att det kom inifrån dig. Personligt för dig. Inte från någon yttre påverkan. 

NDU har några av de djupaste berättelser jag någonsin hört och några högt rankade andliga lärare har blivit sådana på grund av sina nde och har hjälpt många människor i deras liv. Mas Sajady är en och Anita Moorjani är en annan.

Thank you for your kind words and your understanding about this and about me, I’m just sharing my experience and if some people is gonna cry about it then they can (;

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

@Princess Arabia Everyone can say it's devilry but I can't point out bullshit?

Consider that message was an expression of love and respect. A love to truth and honesty, and an electric shock to wake up from slumber.

You want to be a caring mother okay play that role for the baby. I'll be the truthful father and play that role to grow.

I'm just fed up with speculation being mistaken with Philosophy or Mysticism. Whatever, I have high standards of what Truth is and this wasn't enjoyable to read. 

I'm pretty much done with the spirituality subforum, I have been the naive for expecting truthful, conscious and experiential communications from users. 

I like that you call out bullshit on this forum. This should happen more often or we produce delusional new age people like the rest outside of this forum.

That doesn't mean that this thread is delusional. But it should be your right to attack his view on how things work.

We are no hippies here so the thread starter should be prepared for some critical thoughts as long as it's respectful.

 

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, OBEler said:

We are no hippies here so the thread starter should be prepared for some critical thoughts as long as it's respectful.

Well, this was my point, it wasn't respectful.

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, OBEler said:

I like that you call out bullshit on this forum. This should happen more often or we produce delusional new age people like the rest outside of this forum.

Who is to say what's bullshit or not, spiritually. You are giving authority to people who might be bullshitters themselves. We aren't professional spiritual teachers or gurus or sages, so unless something is really way out there or some religious dogma ideology and clearly not what this forum is about, who is the judge of what's bullshit. Leo has the right to address what he considers inappropriate or not suitable because he's the admin and mods have a right to moderate forum guidelines, and also, within reason, what's not appropriate; but telling a forum member who is like one of us just expressing ourselves, sharing insights and perspectives that they call can out bullshit to me is one-sided. We are all here learning and expressing, and may not agree, but to point out to a particular member that they are allowed to call out bullshit because they personally think it's bullshit is asinine. Not that we don't or never call out other's if we think it's bullshit but for a mod to say to another member it's ok as if that member will definitely know it's bullshit is beyond me.