Warning: Cracking Down On Low Quality Political Posting

[Gennadiy1981]

@Thought Art And who said its a problem, we can agree to disagree. And thats fine and thats perfect. I sometimes go to Ayahuasca ceremonies and we have a person named Mike who organizes events, and I would say he is truly awakened person and when you ask him about politics, he would say that he just does not know enough ot make a claim one way or another, but when it comes to healthy life style, the medicine and etc, he would give his answer as he did tremendous amount of research and most importantly he lives that life style.

But back to our topic, look if you dont use foul language, you dont tell others to get f*** off or calling names and present your point of view, i really think its perfect to continue. I am sure we dont want to totally brush off other opinion, then we are like censoring and not much different than the media in dictatorship country. Being awakened is also to understand the other side, and if you have people with other views, there is a reason why they have it. I see here on this forum, one side trashes Trump and honestly with a lot of silly reasons. And by the way, you have half of the USA, its not a small number that supports him, so there is a reason why a half of such large country does it. This means they have their own fears, life styles and biases and they are justifiable. And by the way, so many politicians and looking at the world not US, scream form the top of their lungs to keep hte coutries united, by the way the divisions now is happening pretty much in msot of the world, some its just very suppressed, but what they all fail to see, is that everyone only pushes their narrative, but a truly awakened person, would respect others point of view. You don't need to agree and its perfectly to disagree, but you need to respect as if the other person has a strong opinion, it must have bases where t comes form, no one creates ideology out of thin air. The ideologies occur when society turns wrong and instead of silencing, which by the way, most politicians do form liberal to conservatives (and dont BS me otherwise, all of them are full of) you only create the rift bigger.

Again this is not my forum, I am only here as a guest, Leo is the one who created it, he pays the money to run it and etc and the moderators are the ones monitoring and etc. And if they want to silence other opinions, its fine, they have all rights of doing that, but then dont voice that you are all righteous and awakened.

Edited July 23 by Gennadiy1981

[zurew]

5 hours ago, Thought Art said:

I’ve reached a point where with politics I can’t even say anything… it’s too complicated. I am not an expert but I know I know little. 

I can relate, but you can say things, just be aware and qualify before you give your opinion, how much knowledge you have on that particular topic and be aware of your own biases.

At least thats what I do or strive to do - you need to have a map in your mind about your own knowledge and track,  on what set of assumptions and on what set of values and biases a given opinion of yours is based on and that way it will be easier to update your beliefs if you learn more about a given subject. "Given this set of assumptions and given these values, my opinion on this particular topic is this, for this set of reasons" - if you manage to have that much specificity and clarity on a given topic, that on its  own is a huge success.

Edited July 23 by zurew

[Schizophonia]

On 19/07/2024 at 11:28 PM, Leo Gura said:

You can see plenty of examples of it in the Israel-Gaza thread. The same people relentlessly making the same excuses for Israel.

Let’s debate against vegan gains. 

Edited July 23 by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

BREAKING NEWS:

Studying Conscious Politics dovetails with Conscious Communication !

[numbersinarow]

On 7/23/2024 at 5:13 PM, Schizophonia said:

Let’s debate against vegan gains. 

Okay...? You're free to make an argument. Or request a debate with Ask Yourself or Avi Bitterman (who's biased sample fallacies I will not defend, ever).

[Nivsch]

On 23.7.2024 at 9:20 PM, Yimpa said:

BREAKING NEWS:

Studying Conscious Politics dovetails with Conscious Communication !

Right 🙏

I try now to stop the triggering snowball by, as much as I can, not to pass it back to the second side and answer in a non-triggering way.

Honestly I think I was ok with that even before but I want to improve it, and help the discussion to be more healthy and truth oriented.

Edited August 4 by Nivsch

[Schizophonia]

54 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

Okay...? You're free to make an argument. Or request a debate with Ask Yourself or Avi Bitterman (who's biased sample fallacies I will not defend, ever).

I'm not interested in VG or these guys, it was a "boutade". 

Edited August 4 by Schizophonia

[zurew]

19 hours ago, numbersinarow said:

Or request a debate with Ask Yourself or Avi Bitterman

Both of them are highly skilled debaters.

[ici]

Oh my god noooo! Leo is exercising his authoritarian power over a forum he practically owns. Where is my free speech 💀 Censorship at its finest!!! Power corrupted Leo! Leo takes sides. Leo is biased. Leo owns this place and we must abide by the rules he sets.

i’m joking. Or AM I?! Anyway, back to real life…

[EternalForest]

I stopped talking politics on this forum after Fox News was banned and considered propaganda. That's all I needed to see that only certain opinions will be tolerated. Republican or Conservative views aren't welcome here, despite the fact that Leo does acknowledge there is "healthy conservatism", it's removed from what the actual millions of Republicans believe in the modern day and doesn't acknowledge the ways in which liberals poke at and egg on the other side to bring out the worst in them.