Remember you are in a process of Evolution in this dream.

[Javfly33]

This Evolution is of your Being, is not about your mind. 

 

Whatever you reach by your own means, it is written forever/realized within You. It is not Lost. 

Whatever the mind reaches/realizes/understands, it has no significance for you. It will be lost. Is relative.

 

The Evolution I´m talking about happens in the core of your very Being. It transcends and goes beyond mind, body and death. 

Edited July 14 by Javfly33

[Jehovah increases]

59 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

This Evolution is of your Being, is not about your mind. 

 

Whatever you reach by your own means, it is written forever/realized within You. It is not Lost. 

Whatever the mind reaches/realizes/understands, it has no significance for you. It will be lost. Is relative.

 

The Evolution I´m talking about happens in the core of your very Being. It transcends and goes beyond mind, body and death. 

What is the evolution of being? 

[Ishanga]

I would say there is No Evolution of Being, Being is already Established, all we have to do is Realize it, or become Aware of It, the evolution is in the Area of going from UnTruth to Truth in Realization, that is why we have all these Systems available to Us from the East, they allow this Realization to Happen when it is not already in our daily lives because of Karma or Conditioning of some sort preventing it from happening naturally!

[Jehovah increases]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I would say there is No Evolution of Being, Being is already Established, all we have to do is Realize it, or become Aware of It, the evolution is in the Area of going from UnTruth to Truth in Realization, that is why we have all these Systems available to Us from the East, they allow this Realization to Happen when it is not already in our daily lives because of Karma or Conditioning of some sort preventing it from happening naturally!

Why from the east and karma is imaginary and if it were true why would it prevent it from naturally happening?

[Ishanga]

21 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Why from the east and karma is imaginary and if it were true why would it prevent it from naturally happening?

In my research and experience, the East provides more detailed and efficient methods and techniques, as well as explanations of how to Reach High Levels of Potential within a Human Being compared to other parts of the world, they may have it too but it seems more hidden... They also explain Reality in a more complete way imo..

Karma is not Imaginary, it is in all the systems of what makes up a Human Being and all Matter and Material Existence, without Karma there is no Creation. By Karma I am meaning all the effect of the residual action from the past, for a Human there are 4 basic areas of actions, Body, Mind, Emotion, and Energy action, how conscious one is of all these areas of Action determines how much of their Potential and Free Will is available to them, in my experience most ppl are less than 1% Aware of any of these actions within themselves..

What prevents us from naturally being Enlightened is that we are only provided survival skills when we are born in a way, or an ability to learn how to Survive, it is like learning ABC and 123, we don't know these things but have the ability to learn it via striving to learn it.. Once a Human Being has mastered Survival level of Living, they can go further, there is more Potential to explore, but it has to be strived for, seeked out, its not given to us naturally unless our Karma is there to allow it too happen (previous life's lived via a Spiritual Intention to Know and be Enlightened)

Edited July 14 by Ishanga

[Jehovah increases]

3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

In my research and experience, the East provides more detailed and efficient methods and techniques, as well as explanations of how to Reach High Levels of Potential within a Human Being compared to other parts of the world, they may have it too but it seems more hidden... They also explain Reality in a more complete way imo..

Karma is not Imaginary, it is in all the systems of what makes up a Human Being and all Matter and Material Existence, without Karma there is no Creation. By Karma I am meaning all the effect of the residual action from the past, for a Human there are 4 basic areas of actions, Body, Mind, Emotion, and Energy action, how conscious one is of all these areas of Action determines how much of their Potential and Free Will is available to them, in my experience most ppl are less than 1% Aware of any of these actions within themselves..

This is coming from your relative Pov?

[Ishanga]

Just now, Jehovah increases said:

This is coming from your relative Pov?

Yes, where all POV come from, everything is Subjective, and here on this forum we are only talking "around" Spirituality, not directly about it, as we can't talk directly about something that is about the Non Physical aspect of what Reality is, so its all Subjectivity here...

[Jehovah increases]

7 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, where all POV come from, everything is Subjective, and here on this forum we are only talking "around" Spirituality, not directly about it, as we can't talk directly about something that is about the Non Physical aspect of what Reality is, so its all Subjectivity here...

Yes but some of us can talk directly talk from the so-called non-physical aspects of reality. In fact, in a way we all are.

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Yes but some of us can talk directly talk from the so-called non-physical aspects of reality. In fact, in a way we all are.

Yes agreed, in the end its all about what we are experiencing within Ourselves, its good to share and support one another:)

[Jehovah increases]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

Yes agreed, in the end its all about what we are experiencing within Ourselves, its good to share and support one another:)

Yes, it is🙏

[tuku747]

My mind is a well-polished crystal; a sacred palace I'm taking with me after I shed this mortal coil

Edited July 14 by tuku747

[Jehovah increases]

Yes, I also wish to take my consciousness back to consciousness. How silly of me that I forgot again that I never left. Namastē

Edited July 14 by Jehovah increases

[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Ishanga said:

 going from UnTruth to Truth in Realization, 

Yes, you are right. But im calling that the Evolution. 

Going from untruth to Truth does not happen in a day. It can take a lot of work to unfold. And is not going back. 

 

The understanding most people have about It is i realize i am God/consciousness, etc...and go back to my normal Life. This is not the Realization im talking about.

What im talking about is something you can not undo. Because is not written in any kind of memory. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Javfly33 Ultimately, it is realizing the transcendent perspective which clears one's vision to gain the choice, right?

I'm still here so I have not experientially realized it yet, I have desires, should I just let go? Then again, you all are here also...

[Javfly33]

3 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Javfly33 Ultimately, it is realizing the transcendent perspective which clears one's vision to gain the choice, right?

 

You have the choice at all times, but it can be useful to have little spaces of Awareness to accelerate the process.

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I'm still here so I have not experientially realized it yet, I have desires, should I just let go? Then again, you all are here also...

I´m not talking about losing the body  

Don´t kill me just yet  

@Keryo Koffa  I´m talking about Experiencing yourself as something Independent of anything relative.

Now...what is relative? Everything that this mind can think and this body can touch. 

Now imagine a freedom where you exist beyond anything physical.

 

8 hours ago, Jehovah increases said:

What is the evolution of being? 

Is the core of what your consciousness is doing. 

You could ask yourself this questions:

 

• Is Your consciousness absolute or is entangled with anything that it touches? 
• Do you Exist as You, or do you seem to exist 'all over the place', a bit in the mind, 'sort' of in the body, ...etc?

[Keryo Koffa]

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I´m not talking about losing the body  

Don´t kill me just yet  

@Javfly33 Hmm, but I don't read your thoughts, I still see a screen, I am aware of interpreting my perception, I do not yet realize the mechanisms that contextualize it although I infer that the same self writing is the same self creating its and all experience. I don't seem to be able to morph my perception to instantaneously visit Kailash for example to the same depth I now see this screen. Advice?

Edited July 14 by Keryo Koffa