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@OBEler

7 hours ago, OBEler said:

@enchanted

PTSD is kicking in

   I have confirmed your suspicions. Yes, I think it's very likely PTSD and probably something else, but based on the body language I'm seeing, the shooting has effected him and made him realize how lucky he was, and how finite life can be. Or something like that!

   So nope, no Hitler god complex yet I'm seeing!😂

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@Danioover9000 You've never seen Rounders? A "fish" in poker just means incompetent player. 

I don't think you've understood the main point. I plugged my post into ChatGPT and said "analyze this writing". ChatGPT has correctly interpreted my point. Maybe have a look at it here: https://chatgpt.com/share/6709b94a-c7f1-4fcf-801b-ba5058b2113c

Also, I don't consider myself to be highly intelligent and I'm not well-educated but my ability to perceive reality accurately is probably in the 95%+ percentile. Maybe even 99, IDK. I would call this ability a form of intelligence but I'm not well-educated. So I would say you could consider me highly intelligent when it comes to reading reality, but definitely not in terms of cognition and breadth of factual knowledge. I can definitely be wrong about things and often am, but I'm not wrong about this. 

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If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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@Joshe

13 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Danioover9000 You've never seen Rounders? A "fish" in poker just means incompetent players. 

I don't think you've understood the main point. I plugged my post into ChatGPT and said "analyze this writing". ChatGPT has correctly interpreted my point. Maybe have a look at it here: https://chatgpt.com/share/6709b94a-c7f1-4fcf-801b-ba5058b2113c

Also, I don't consider myself to be highly intelligent and I'm not well-educated but my ability to perceive reality accurately is probably in the 95%+ percentile. Maybe even 99, IDK. I would call this ability a form of intelligence but I'm not well-educated. So I would say you could consider me highly intelligent when it comes to reading reality, but definitely not in terms of cognition. I can definitely be wrong about things and often am, but I'm not wrong about this. 

1. Never seen Rounders, if that's what you meant okay. Just saying general a fish in some poker table makes no sense for most who don't know.

2. I understood your point well enough without relying on ChatGBT or other A.I programs to do the thinking for me. I also understand that after Leo Gura made that blog post about Evangelical Christian nationalists, and the art of the devil, that most of your posts since then have been copying and aping Leo's linguistics. Why is more of your posts making very similar points to Leo Gura when most of your posts before Leo Gura's blog posts were more normal and less resembling Leo's talking points?

3. Great you admitted you don't consider yourself intelligent and well educated, yet claim your perception of reality is in the 95% percentile to maybe 99%, then saying 'IDK', and not providing a site or source to verify your claim of those percentiles. Then you claim this perception is your form of intelligence, yet, claim you're not educated enough. Then assume I could consider you intelligent to 'read reality', then claim it's definitely not in terms of cognition so which is it intelligence or cognition? And then claim you can definitely be wrong but in this case you're not. Why all the weaseling, dodging, deflecting, jumping from one claim to another, without anyone evidence to support at least one point? Why the floundering and granting yourself these many positions without any evidence at all? 

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@Danioover9000 you most certainly did not understand my point because you failed to address it. You fail to acknowledge the key point. Can you, right now, without nastiness, articulate to me what my point is


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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@Danioover9000  Here, I'll save you the embarrassment. 

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Also, spare me your adhominems and focus on the point.

Here is the problem:

  • Those who don't see Trump as evil are consistently reading reality wrong. Each inaccurate read can be seen as a brick in a wall. These bricks add up over time and reinforce each other.
  • When their wrong reads are pointed out to them, they fortify and entrench by adding more mortar or another brick in the wall. 
  • A single brick is easy to destroy when it exists all by itself but when you have 1000 connected bricks, tearing one down is difficult because 999 others help keep it locked in.
  • Removing a single brick from the wall is inconsequential. 
  • The only way to tear down your wall of falsehood is by opening your mind. The only way I could assist is if you wanted to tear it down, and of course, you don't, therefore, there is no evidence I can present to you. At best, I will destroy one brick but your wall will stand.

But here I am, uselessly banging my head against your brick wall, hoping it will make a difference. 

Again, please spare me your adhominems.

Am I safe to use this brick wall analogy or has Leo mentioned that before too?

Edit: Also, Leo does often supply me with words, terms, or phrases that are useful in articulating my existing, original thoughts and so if you think I steal some of his terminology, you are correct. However, he does not give me my positions but rather, reinforces the ones I already have. So it'd be nice if you could understand this as well. 

Edited by Joshe

If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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@enchanted sorry for referring your name all the time, can't delete.

 

This close death encounter will change him. But not for the better. I know a red/orange minded person who survived a knife attack. Some years later he is a megalomaniac, he feels he is the toughest guy in town. Also he has a weapon equipment at home , just in case you know.

That also will happen to Trump on a bigger scale. Trump will be worse than you know him already. He will be unpredictable, which is a kind of super power he already had. Just even stronger.

 

 

 

 

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@Joshe

7 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Danioover9000  Here, I'll save you the embarrassment. 

ZwjDMHt.png

Also, spare me your adhominems and focus on the point.

Here is the problem:

  • Those who don't see Trump as evil are consistently reading reality wrong. Each inaccurate read can be seen as a brick in a wall. These bricks add up over time and reinforce each other.
  • When their wrong reads are pointed out to them, they fortify and entrench by adding more mortar or another brick in the wall. 
  • A single brick is easy to destroy when it exists all by itself but when you have 1000 connected bricks, tearing one down is difficult because 999 others help keep it locked in.
  • Removing a single brick from the wall is inconsequential. 
  • The only way to tear down your wall of falsehood is by opening your mind. The only way I could assist is if you wanted to tear it down, and of course, you don't. 

But here I am, uselessly banging my head against your brick wall, hoping it will make a difference. 

Again, please spare me your adhominems.

 

1. What Ad hominem? Show me what ad hominems I have done to you exactly since this post. When did I specifically insult you?

2. So those who don't see Trump as evil are consistently reading reality wrong? Are you saying that those people are illiterate and cannot read a book, therefore those people can't 'read reality', therefore they are lower intelligence than you? What do you mean each inaccuracies is a brick?

3. Again, your brick analogy is confusing. So a brick is a reasoning, or a person? because you claim one brick is 'easy to destroy' but when you have 1000 'connected bricks' 'tearing' one down is difficult because of the other 999 bricks. So are you suggesting these bricks are reasons or people, because if they're people then you're suggesting it's easy to 'destroy' one person but not 1000 people together right, because that would be homicide and not mass murder?

4. Removing a single brick is inconsequential? Really? Because in the context of engineering and construction and an actual wall of bricks, removing one is actually consequential because that creates weakness which adds to faster errosion over time that effects the concrete, the cement lines connecting the bricks, which leads to safety issues for those living within the brick wall and house, and an increase in danger of the wall collapsing.

5. So you assume I have a wall of falsehood which can only be taken down if I concede to you and open my mind??? And why do I want assistance from you to destroy a brick wall, or a brick, or a people that I apparently have???Dude I don't literally have a brick wall with me here, and I refuse any solicitation from you to commit an act of homicide or mass destruction of about 1000 people or 1 person...

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@Joshe

34 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Danioover9000 you most certainly did not understand my point because you failed to address it. You fail to acknowledge the key point. Can you, right now, without nastiness, articulate to me what my point is

   If I had to guess your ultimate aim here, is to buddy up to some mods and Leo, share their value words in the Trump hate? Because To me it's more than coincidental that this change in language you have is after Leo dropped his blog post about Christian nationalism and Trump being a devil. Before he dropped that you have about 100 posts in several threads that show you're a typical user here, but you ended up changing your language a bit to copy him and another mod. If you want I can just DM these posts right now to you, to show you what I mean when I'm addressing the change in language you underwent right? Or if you want I can share them publicly right here and we can talk about it right, why you're trying to sound more similar to Leo right?  Literally after July 7-14 your posts are resembling more of his takes but before that it was a bit different. I'm just asking the quiet question out loud is all...

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@Danioover9000 Are you trolling me? Instead of engaging with the main idea, you're throwing insults about how I get my marching orders from Leo. All the while, COMPLETELY avoiding the main idea. Anyway, I gotta get back to work. See ya

 


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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What’s the temperature today? 


I AM Lovin' It

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On 14/07/2024 at 9:09 PM, zazen said:

Chris hedges:

”My thoughts on the assassination attempt on former President Trump:

His substack is a gift thanks for sharing

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1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

   If I had to guess your ultimate aim here, is to buddy up to some mods and Leo, share their value words in the Trump hate? Because To me it's more than coincidental that this change in language you have is after Leo dropped his blog post about Christian nationalism and Trump being a devil. Before he dropped that you have about 100 posts in several threads that show you're a typical user here, but you ended up changing your language a bit to copy him and another mod. If you want I can just DM these posts right now to you, to show you what I mean when I'm addressing the change in language you underwent right? Or if you want I can share them publicly right here and we can talk about it right, why you're trying to sound more similar to Leo right? 

Not everything is a conspiracy bro. I could give two shits about clout on some forum. I just got on this forum the other day when the Trump news came out. Probably had 5 posts before that, over the course of 8 years or however long it's been since the forum started. 

Look, again, you're reading reality wrong and you're allowing your assumptions to run wild AF with little to no evidence. Just chill. I wouldn't want to be a mod here and I wouldn't even if they begged me to. I just don't care. Relax bro. You read is out of this world wrong. I don't want recognition from a single person here.

Let this FACT be a clue to you that you may have a thousands more bricks in your wall of falsehood. Let's go back to not engaging each other. 


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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@Joshe

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

@Danioover9000 Are you trolling me? Instead of engaging with the main idea, you're throwing insults about how I get my marching orders from Leo. All the while, COMPLETELY avoiding the main idea. Anyway, I gotta get back to work. See ya

 

   Again, insults where exactly? Also I will concede a bit, I'll give you credit for intelligence because after I posted that other post I checked your profile right? 66 counts of posts missing about 50 that I have, joined October 27, 2018, spooking time to join IMO, and I swear there were about 100 posts that I have about you posting here and there in several sub forums right? But I swear after I just pointed this out, you went and deleted some of those posts! Joshe what are you trying to hide mate? I mean you are for TRUTH and anti devilry, yet you are hiding, like why???😂

   At least with me right, you can go into my history and even quote posts and show how crazy I am, and that's fine because those strangeness in me I own it right? But why are you running away from Joshe? Like who hurt you to make you tremble before me? I am fine I will not hurt you I am not that scary come here.😄😊🤗

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@Joshe

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

Not everything is a conspiracy bro. I could give two shits about clout on some forum. I just got on this forum the other day when the Trump news came out. Probably had 5 posts before that, over the course of 8 years or however long it's been since the forum started. 

Look, again, you're reading reality wrong and you're allowing your assumptions to run wild AF with little to no evidence. Just chill. I wouldn't want to be a mod here and I wouldn't even if they begged me to. I just don't care. Relax bro. You read is out of this world wrong. I don't want recognition from a single person here.

Let this FACT be a clue to you that you may have a thousands more bricks in your wall of falsehood. Let's go back to not engaging each other. 

   Actually been about 6 years since you joined, again spooky time to join but that's just IMHO. And I am chill, just asking questions buddy. I am having a good time, gonna do the garden work later, I enjoy this back and forth, nothing wrong here right? Am just asking the questions is all.

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2 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

 At least with me right, you can go into my history and even quote posts and show how crazy I am, and that's fine because those strangeness in me I own it right? But why are you running away from Joshe? Like who hurt you to make you tremble before me? I am fine I will not hurt you I am not that scary come here.😄😊🤗

He need to learn the balance bettwen seriousness and good humor. I remember trying to enter in figths with you. Yes, is interesting enter in figths, but in the end of the day all karma need to be resolved so one can sleep with clean mindspace. At least this is my inner policy. 

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Posted (edited)

What I love about this events is to listening to all sides. In time of Crisis people reveal some good content to learn about human traits. 

All videos related to World events I collect in my youtube in a List called " Sick Modernity". Literally all social related topics, because most videos deals with How Society is Sick.

 

Edited by Rafael Thundercat

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@Joshe  I will say sorry in advance right? Because I have joined like in April 2019, and you joined like in October 2018, so you 1 year my senior in this forum by digital clock right? However you got like about 66 counts in posts, 3 shy away from being pervy, but I have like 12,336 in total posts and counting, been more active in this forum than you, have participated in all sub forums than you, survived dramas here and there than you, so in engagement and activity I am the senior and you the junior. If I hurt yo feelings I do apologies because I like having a healthy debate and back in forth, nothing personal yeah? If you too triggered I will official drop this and agree to disagree right?

Any ways back to thread topic, despite the shooter being an introvert, a 'loser', I do feel sorry due t his severe bullying. I wish America get's itself right and reduce the bullying epidemic to some schoolers that are too different to fit in normally. One thing I hate about in the American schooling system is the bullying, not cool IMO.

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After what Happened in January 6 United States Capitol attack, and the suspect of FBI hands on it or at least a provocateur infiltraed inciting the riots to go into the capitol, well, what cant be possible after that? What sort of tatics this experts have in their pockets?

 

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