I am Bored So I shoot. Gaza Soldiers Permited to shoot as they wish.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Of course it is like this, of course. Do we imagine that the Generals of Israel have a lovely dovie compassionate hearth to the poor palestinians? The very ideia of shooting someone demands a desuhamisation of that human. And that is what is happening in Gaza and will not stop till the last piece of Gaza Land is cleaned from any Palestine people. The leaders lost their heart and the soldiers love to do what they do. Otherwise they would refuse to do it like many did 

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

 

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

 

 

[enchanted]

Nationalism and religion breeds violence (Krishnamurti)

So while Israel and Hammas are obviously being violent. Anyone who is "anti-Isreal" or "anti-Hammas" is also being violent because you are categorizing them into a race, nation, or religion. 

Therefore the higher conscious description of this conflict is not Israel is fighting Palestinian but humans are fighting humans, the way they have been for 10000's years. 

This view I described above is our only way out of conflict for the planet. If we insist on seeing Palestinians/Jews/Russians/Ukrainians as a different races we will have violence. 

Like the Israelis, we too are dehumanizing the humans who live in the arbitrary borders of Palestine by calling them Palestinians. They aren't Palestinians they are humans. 

Edited July 13 by enchanted

[Rafael Thundercat]

5 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Nationalism and religion breeds violence (Krishnamurti)

So while Israel and Hammas are obviously being violent. Anyone who is "anti-Isreal" or "anti-Hammas" is also being violent because you are categorizing them into a race, nation, or religion. 

Therefore the higher conscious description of this conflict is not Israel is fighting Palestinian but humans are fighting humans, the way they have been for 10000's years. 

This view I described above is our only way out of conflict for the planet. If we insist on seeing Palestinians/Jews/Russians/Ukrainians as a different races we will have violence. 

Like the Israelis, we too are dehumanizing the humans who live in the arbitrary borders of Palestine by calling them Palestinians. They aren't Palestinians they are humans. 

Well, I know that are humans killing humans. Of course is ridiculous, but when you are inside the bubble they are you dont see like this. If a Extremist guy from Israel come to you and ask if you are Pro-Israel or Pro- Palestine, and you are there in the field, the very answer you give can have the consequence of you being alive or death, same if you enconter a member of Hamas. You can see from a High Perspective but the question is : Can the person in front of you see it ? 

 

[Danioover9000]

@Rafael Thundercat

6 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Of course it is like this, of course. Do we imagine that the Generals of Israel have a lovely dovie compassionate hearth to the poor palestinians? The very ideia of shooting someone demands a desuhamisation of that human. And that is what is happening in Gaza and will not stop till the last piece of Gaza Land is cleaned from any Palestine people. The leaders lost their heart and the soldiers love to do what they do. Otherwise they would refuse to do it like many did 

 

   Exactly reminds me of this video. Violence just because:

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Danioover9000 People who denie humans can comit atrocity just because they feel like it, dont know nothing about the level a human can reach.

Even when I was a kid the boys in my village used to catch Frogs and stick firecrackers up to their ass and explode the poor frogs alive. Just for fun. Well we know kids can be cruel like this for simply ignorance or peer group pressure. But we ignore that adults can do it too, mainly if they feel they will be backedup by their Militar Forces. And of course Militar Forces take advantage of this tendency to fullfill their plans. 

[enchanted]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Well, I know that are humans killing humans. Of course is ridiculous, but when you are inside the bubble they are you dont see like this. If a Extremist guy from Israel come to you and ask if you are Pro-Israel or Pro- Palestine, and you are there in the field, the very answer you give can have the consequence of you being alive or death, same if you enconter a member of Hamas. You can see from a High Perspective but the question is : Can the person in front of you see it ? 

 

Right, but us sitting here and "choosing sides" (and in some cases arguing about it) is not only contributing to the problem but is the problem itself.

The reason Israel/Hammas is doing horrible things is because they engaged in choosing sides.

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Right, but us sitting here and "choosing sides" (and in some cases arguing about it) is not only contributing to the problem but is the problem itself.

The reason Israel/Hammas is doing horrible things is because they engaged in choosing sides.

I am not particulary interested in pick sides. Both sides have their own part in the things happening, some more than others. We come to a forum not to solve World Problems but to increase our mind capacity to sit with the paradoxes and Nuances in all this about this Existence. Imagine one day you end up in a situation with a soldier trying to trick you like the Guy in the Civil War Movie? How would you survive? Would you side to truth or Lie to escape being Shoot death on the place. Everthing we do is for survival purpouses and most things we talk on this forum is basicaly Survival. 

[Danioover9000]

@enchanted

3 hours ago, enchanted said:

Right, but us sitting here and "choosing sides" (and in some cases arguing about it) is not only contributing to the problem but is the problem itself.

The reason Israel/Hammas is doing horrible things is because they engaged in choosing sides.

   Nah, it's fine to debate and argue, for understanding's sake. At least in arguing we get to hash out what's so different between those 2 sides or those differing sides in a shared conflict. At least in this forum it's ok to argue as long as you're logical and not cursing or insulting the other side too much.

[enchanted]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I am not particulary interested in pick sides. Both sides have their own part in the things happening, some more than others. We come to a forum not to solve World Problems but to increase our mind capacity to sit with the paradoxes and Nuances in all this about this Existence. Imagine one day you end up in a situation with a soldier trying to trick you like the Guy in the Civil War Movie? How would you survive? Would you side to truth or Lie to escape being Shoot death on the place. Everthing we do is for survival purpouses and most things we talk on this forum is basicaly Survival. 

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

 

 Ya that's true and thought provoking. I get what you are saying. Haven't seen that movie. 

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I am not particulary interested in pick sides. Both sides have their own part in the things happening, 

Are there both sides? Or just one side? Aka the human side. This is what I'm trying to say. 

Edited July 13 by enchanted

[Rafael Thundercat]

18 minutes ago, enchanted said:

 Ya that's true and thought provoking. I get what you are saying. Haven't seen that movie. 

Are there both sides? Or just one side? Aka the human side. This is what I'm trying to say. 

Yes, there is only the human side. But dont forget that humans pick sides. Just in case you hadnt notice yet.