What am I seeking?

[Davino]

@Rafael Thundercat One reality doesn't take out the other. Both coexist beautifully. It must be so. Life is not linear, it's a rollercoaster, it expands and contracts. 

Backlashes are also a good sign of progress. In fact actual progress looks very very different than linear progress. 

 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Davino Oh yeah, imagine a spectrum of colors on a 2d plane, now extend it to the third dimension and draw loops, countless loops, they all intersect in various ways outside and through that 2d dimension that itself represents perception, that's reality, an associatory network, like a neural network, infinitely interconnected and interconnectable in all arbitrary ways.

Agree on backlashes also, they're the problem seeking to be addressed, suffering through and letting go is like dissolving those previously drawn self-assembling associations that create resistance to dissolving and block greater perspectives through their rigidity. Disassembling them takes the same emotional labor that keeps them afloat, though realizing greater perspectives with their own power will help the overriding, integrating (including and transcending) process which is really changed most easily through a shift in identity (like sadhguru said, once he put is heart/ahamkara on the mountaintop, his body follows naturally).

Edited July 9 by Keryo Koffa

[Evelyna]

17 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

I just realized i dont know what the fuck I am seeking.

No Matter what Life becomes, is never enough.  

Im seeking something i dont even know, how fucking absurd. 

Generally people will try to move away from pain and move towards pleasure ( or happiness ) so as someone mentioned we are always seeking something that will make us feel good whatever this may be. I think we are all seeking some kind of positive experiance.  

Edited July 9 by Evelyna

[Water by the River]

17 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

I just realized i dont know what the fuck I am seeking

 

On 14.5.2023 at 11:59 AM, Water by the River said:

Pointing Out the Great Way, Brown:

THE OUTCOME: THE NATURE OF ENLIGHTENMENT
Contrary to the slow ripening of meditative experience throughout the preliminary and essential stages of meditation, and even the gradual ripening of awakened wisdom [Awakened Awareness] during extraordinary meditation, crossing over to enlightenment is an immediate and compelling event, wherein the mental continuum undergoes a series of fundamental and enduring reorganizations. One implication of the term nonmeditation is that the "journey ends." There are no more stages.

Pema Karpo says,The journey ends. Going by stages stops. There are no stages that go anywhere else. You find the perfection of everything that came before, without stages. (PK, f. rib) There are no stages (sa med) beyond this point

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a. Basis Enlightenment
The first enlightenment moment is sometimes called samadhi-enlightenment (mnyam bzhag) because it typically occurs during continuous, uninterrupted mindfulness. When the conditions of the extraordinary meditation are exactly right, crossing over occurs. A profound shift occurs during which seemingly individual consciousness, and all ordinary sense experience and all false concepts associated with it, drop away. The vast awareness-space of the dharmakaya becomes the point of observation. Seemingly individual consciousness (yid), the point of observation throughout the entire path of meditation, is now found to be a mere concept (btags pa), which drops away.

Basis-enlightenment is said to be "beyond all notions," "beyond examination," "beyond representation," and "beyond false concepts" (TN, pp. 5 19-20).

Tilopa says: When the mind comes to an end, The three realms become absorbed therein.... Through the nonduality of self and other you become the blessed Buddha.

The mind becomes absorbed through the force of the ripening perspective of [vast awareness-] space. Then, the five sense systems and their objects, the aggregates, and the elements also dissolve in the perspective of space. The seeming reality of individual consciousness along with its functions and activities gives way, leaving only an infinite ocean of awareness-space.

Basis enlightenment leads to a very "new view of the way the realized mind stays" (TN, p. 5 17). When the concept of individual consciousness or "mind" is finally eradicated, a profound rearrangement takes place.

Awakened wisdom[Awakened Awareness] now comes forth unobstructed, no longer as a brief glimpse or flash but as that which saturates all experience. It has no real support (brten), yet serves as the ground or basis for all experience. Therefore the first moment of enlightenment is called basis enlightenment.

During the ordinary special-insight meditations the practitioner searched for certain knowledge within arising events of the ordinary mental continuum. During the extraordinary samadhi meditations the practitioner located the simultaneous mind as the source of certain knowledge. Now, with basis enlightenment, knowledge takes on a new epistemological locus of knowledge. Awakened wisdom comes forth but not in association with either the ordinary or the simultaneous mind. Awakened wisdom [Awakened Awareness]has no basis. It is without coming Ong med) and without going ('song med), in that it does not arise from the seeming activity of the relative mental continuum. Awakened wisdom [Awakened Awareness] is self-originated (rang 'byung). It is simply there, and with basis enlightenment, stays there. Basis enlightenment is called, "wisdom beyond the world" (TN, p. 542)."

[Javfly33]

6 hours ago, Davino said:

@Rafael Thundercat 

Backlashes are also a good sign of progress. In fact actual progress looks very very different than linear progress. 

 

I dont know why you call It backlash LOL 

If from the content i post you guys thought im somewhere near "enlightened", "Awake" or "done", you are very wrong. 

Lets say my avatar represents a "Yogui in progress" 😝 

5 hours ago, Water by the River said:

 

@Water by the River so what you are trying to say is that i can not effectively know what im seeking because is not a "knowlege" (wisdom), but something different? 🤔🤔🤔

5 hours ago, Water by the River said:

 

 

Edited July 9 by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

I would say that what we all seek with the "enlightening" impulse or activity is to dissolve all the limitations that being human implies so that a completely open perception can happen , and live in unlimited flow. 

Edited July 9 by Breakingthewall