I´m never been interested in fucking but I´m attracted to women, explanation?

[Javfly33]

I was super late interested in sexuality. I can remember until I was not 20-21 years old, I didn't had a single sexual thought about fucking a woman.

 I was attracted to the Beauty and femeninity of women, but is not like my mind had any sort of drive or thought about actually having sex.

I decided one day I lost my virginity going to a prostitute because culturally I felt pressured to experience sex. But is not like I had a lot of genuine desire to do it.

 

The last year I noticed it some kind of raw masculine energy of fucking arising in me, I guess this is what is the drive that most males have and why they are constantly chasing pussy. I understand now I think, but is completely tiring,  to be honest, is nothing satisfying afterwards, is just pure animalistic compulsion of wanting to penetrate LoL. Afterwards one feel completely empty and even kind of bad (like you have 'used' the women for his body).

I think there has to be better ways to do sex. I am interested in trying Tantra Sex, I´ve heard is nothing like vanilla sex and is very balanced, has anyone tried it?

 

Overall, would you say I exhibit asexual traits or is just that I don't resonate with western sexuality and I should try to do Tantra Sex?

Edited July 8 by Javfly33

[mr_engineer]

The first thing you have to understand is that the rules of dating, or the mainstream dating-coaching or pick-up advice is for men who think with their dicks. Aka, men who aren't like you! This entire dating-strategy is to get laid. What the actual point of dating is and where this is all headed is irrelevant to these individuals, it's just 'me want sex so me approach women'. 

The reason you're not like this, is because you have higher standards in women. You don't see 'experience' with women who aren't that feminine as worth it. 

A very important point to note here, is that in the mainstream, dating, relationships and marriage have been romanticized to no end, to the degree that people equate these things to 'love'. They will just use the word 'being in love' when they're just in an arrangement that logistically works. There is little to no awareness of genuine compatibility in relationships when it comes to future plans and aspirations. 

So, what you should do, is you should date correctly. Meaning, you should date to find someone compatible! Which is the actual point of dating. Ignore all of the pick-up guys bragging about how much they scored with women, understand what you want in a woman and date strategically. That'll make dating smooth and effortless for you. 

[integral]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

like you have 'used' the women for his body

Hopefully she also enjoyed the experience…

most guys in their 20s view it this way it’s because they’re pretty egocentric, eventually with enough experience you’ll stop having sex just for yourself.

You don’t need Tantric yet you need to be in a loving relationship and have sex from that frame.

Feeling like you’re using her for her body is a kindergarten  relationship. Because you’re completely disconnected from her, The entire dance that you played to attract her was a manipulation to get in her pants.

Then with her big butt in your face you think it’s all about your personal gain an accomplishment! 😂 

Edited July 8 by integral

[Schizophonia]

Maybe you have low testosterone or aromatase deficiency.

[DreamScape]

Try letting go control and judgment over sexuality

[Yimpa]

Just now, DreamScape said:

Try letting go control and judgment over sexuality

Amen 

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, mr_engineer said:

The first thing you have to understand is that the rules of dating, or the mainstream dating-coaching or pick-up advice is for men who think with their dicks. Aka, men who aren't like you! This entire dating-strategy is to get laid. What the actual point of dating is and where this is all headed is irrelevant to these individuals, it's just 'me want sex so me approach women'. 

The reason you're not like this, is because you have higher standards in women. You don't see 'experience' with women who aren't that feminine as worth it. 

A very important point to note here, is that in the mainstream, dating, relationships and marriage have been romanticized to no end, to the degree that people equate these things to 'love'. They will just use the word 'being in love' when they're just in an arrangement that logistically works. There is little to no awareness of genuine compatibility in relationships when it comes to future plans and aspirations. 

So, what you should do, is you should date correctly. Meaning, you should date to find someone compatible! Which is the actual point of dating. Ignore all of the pick-up guys bragging about how much they scored with women, understand what you want in a woman and date strategically. That'll make dating smooth and effortless for you. 

Ver nicely put. I knew you had it in you. When you're not speaking about topics that are personal to you and that you have no "trauma" around, you can give some sound solid advice. The clouds and veils aren't as tainted and we see a bit more clearly.

P.S. I only used the word "trauma" to stress a point and not necessarily saying you have been traumatized.

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, integral said:

Hopefully she also enjoyed the experience…

Using someone for their body and them enjoying it, is still using. IMO, this is what most men are doing if they're not looking for a relationship or marriage. Most men aren't just going out saying whom can I please today and give them some satisfaction without pleasing myself.

[Lucasxp64]

There is just something about the sexual act with a beautiful, feminine and loving lady that just compels me. That sexual merging with someone I'm infatuated for. I go all in with the emotional connection, that makes it astronomically better.

If I desire something, I want it to be as pleasurable as possible, I want to explode with bliss upon entering in contact with that object of desire. It's like if food didn't taste good, it would be some kind of chore.

You can frame that animalistic desire in any way you want. It's like the pleasure of tasty food. We can make delicious healthy food tasty, or we can be obsessed about eating as many types of food as possible and make our entire lives around it, etc.

But here is a opposite view:

 

Edited July 8 by Lucasxp64

[integral]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Using someone for their body and them enjoying it, is still using. IMO, this is what most men are doing if they're not looking for a relationship or marriage. Most men aren't just going out saying whom can I please today and give them some satisfaction without pleasing myself.

Yeah their values are at Orange and they cant help themselves, it’s only at green that you realize other people ARE REAL PEOPLE 😂and take responsibility for them. Orange takes responsibility for others but it’s very self-serving.

Edited July 8 by integral

[LordFall]

@Javfly33 Sexuality is very interesting, very related to your brain, psychology and "trauma." Like for me it has a lot to do with FOMO and missing out even though I don't connect intimately with many women but want to have sex with them. So I tend to be heavily into porn more than actual socializing/pickup. 

[gambler]

You don't resonate with western sexuality and that's fine. If your baseline is something that is more akin to asexuality, then so be it. You don't need to corrupt that baseline since it's actually a blessing. You have the ability to not be possessed by primal urges and there's a lot of benefit to that. For one, if I was a female looking for a monogamous relationship, I would trust and bet on you. This is good. The people saying this is judgment, and therefore a negative thing to espouse, aren't saying anything. Don't conform and be like everyone else. Preserve your gift.

Also it's not a matter of control, I know where you're coming from. You have a baseline sex drive that you can fall back on if you choose to. 

[soos_mite_ah]

You sound asexual but still heteroromantic with occasions where you feel sensually (but not sexually) attracted to women. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

16 hours ago, integral said:

Then with her big butt in your face you think it’s all about your personal gain an accomplishment!

This was cool. I can imagine my 20.years old with a butt in my face and a smile in my lips while smeling a driping vagina with that particular smell we know. We all romanticise this moments but in the moment it feels very animalistic and raw. 

 

[Javfly33]

@mr_engineer @integral  @gambler thanks all for the messages, very insightful. I have to ponder this through 

 

@Schizophonia maybe. You know this type of more sexual drive has been happening this last 1-2 years since I started lifting weights (that increases testosterone)

(Although i started the yoga sadhana kind at the same time, so not sure-

 

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Using someone for their body and them enjoying it, is still using. IMO, this is what most men are doing if they're not looking for a relationship or marriage. Most men aren't just going out saying whom can I please today and give them some satisfaction without pleasing myself.

 

12 hours ago, integral said:

Yeah their values are at Orange and they cant help themselves, it’s only at green that you realize other people ARE REAL PEOPLE 😂and take responsibility for them. Orange takes responsibility for others but it’s very self-serving.

@Princess Arabia  I see, now I understand some things. Very insightful.

 

5 hours ago, soos_mite_ah said:

You sound asexual but still heteroromantic with occasions where you feel sensually (but not sexually) attracted to women. 

Nice, That feels so complex and special 😂

[Javfly33]

19 hours ago, integral said:

Hopefully she also enjoyed the experience…

most guys in their 20s view it this way it’s because they’re pretty egocentric, eventually with enough experience you’ll stop having sex just for yourself.

Feeling like you’re using her for her body is a kindergarten  relationship. Because you’re completely disconnected from her, The entire dance that you played to attract her was a manipulation to get in her pants.

Then with her big butt in your face you think it’s all about your personal gain an accomplishment! 😂 

right lol, I completely understand now, makes lot of sense. 

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You don’t need Tantric yet you need to be in a loving relationship and have sex from that frame.

damn That seems a very healthy form of sexuality, one which I haven´t ever experienced (yet). 😅

Edited July 9 by Javfly33

[Schizophonia]

@Javfly33 It can be simply a neurological particularity too 👍 Hornyness is an exacerbed expression of spectrum of energies.

Mushrooms and very serotoninergic compounds (5-MeO-Mipt, 5-MeO-DMT, in a less extant 4-HO-MET) gave me a kind of « romantic » hornyness, it’s very round, hot, soft, sensual, « tantric » as you say.

Conversely, anti-serotoninergic and/or highly pro dopamine compounds (Testosterone , Trenbolone, LSD, anti-prolactine, Bupropion, in a less extant 4-HO-MET) gave me rather a very cold and agressive hornyness, dirty atmosphere, magenta neon light, copper, black and white stripes, BDSM oriented, smell of sweat, brutal domination. This is vicious goblin energy. 
 

 

Edited July 9 by Schizophonia

[Javfly33]

21 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@Javfly33 It can be simply a neurological particularity too 👍 Hornyness is an exacerbed expression of spectrum of energies.

Mushrooms and very serotoninergic compounds (5-MeO-Mipt, 5-MeO-DMT, in a less extant 4-HO-MET) gave me a kind of « romantic » hornyness, it’s very round, hot, soft, sensual, « tantric » as you say.

Conversely, anti-serotoninergic and/or highly pro dopamine compounds (Testosterone , Trenbolone, LSD, anti-prolactine, Bupropion, in a less extant 4-HO-MET) gave me rather a very cold and agressive hornyness, dirty atmosphere, magenta neon light, copper, black and white stripes, BDSM oriented, smell of sweat, brutal domination. This is vicious goblin energy. 
 

 

Curious that put LSD with testosterone and trembolone together LOL

 

[Schizophonia]

10 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Curious that put LSD with testosterone and trembolone together LOL

 

And yet it’s true ahah

[Hojo]

Making up ideas about feelings is ego. Making up that you used a woman is ego its just feelings being empty is good ego is scared to gain control it says I used this person i must feel bad.