President Kamala Harris.

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

Using the GDP as a measure of the real economy is short cited.   China is looking at the long term and building infrastructure particularly in Africa.   To survive you need resources.  Even the Internet can’t function without certain rare earth elements.  The world is like a monopoly board.  The one who buys up all the hotels eventually wins.   That’s why the gangsters who control the US want Maduro out of Venezuela, which is sitting on significant oil reserves. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative

By that logic China is a mustache-twirling monopolist.

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

China has a very peaceful foreign policy compared to the United States which brutalized Vietnam,

You should consider, though, how many people Communism killed in China.

Don't forget why Vietnam was fought: to stop Commumism from spreading like a virus. That virus still exists in North Korea. Meanwhile South Korea is 100x as prosperous.

North vs South Korea clearly demonstrate what the Vietnam War was really about.

In politics, nothing is as simple as it seems.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That virus still exists in North Korea. Meanwhile South Korea is 100x as prosperous.

Yeah you know what's the other virus that plagues North Korea? Sanctions enacted by the west.

If you enacted sanctions over South Korea, they would be an even bigger shithole.  

You are blaming North Korea for being poor after excluding them from global trade and financial system and threatening others not to trade with them. Victim blaming as usual. Bullies keep bullying.

Try lifting the sanctions and we will see North Korea prosper.

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I don't think most people appreciate the grip China has on the global market. China is slowly building while the US is fading.

More countries are dependent on China than the US.

https://howmuch.net/articles/trade-timelapse-usa-china

What's even more impressive is that they did it relatively peacefully without destabilizing & bombing entire continents to fuck and stealing their shit.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Bobby_2021

[Jodistrict]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

By that logic China is a mustache-twirling monopolist.

Yes, they are very good at business.  But their intention is to win with business and trade.  The US is increasingly relying on its military.  

[Jodistrict]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You should consider, though, how many people Communism killed in China.

Don't forget why Vietnam was fought: to stop Commumism from spreading like a virus. That virus still exists in North Korea. Meanwhile South Korea is 100x as prosperous.

North vs South Korea clearly demonstrate what the Vietnam War was really about.

In politics, nothing is as simple as it seems.

You are forgetting that North Vietnam actually won the war and it was their communist government that has created their current successful economy.  

Edited August 12, 2024 by Jodistrict

[Leo Gura]

11 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

If you enacted sanctions over South Korea, they would be an even bigger shithole.  

Omg, you are not seriously gonna simp for North Korea and blame that on the West.

I can't.

Edited August 13, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

18 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

China has already overtaken America, economically.

Military wise, no. And they should not.

China is currently in serious trouble with their economy. They've been struggling with a real deflation problem for several months and the government has been doing a poor job with not allowing sufficient investment. Top economists also say that the size of China's economy now probably won't be larger than the US economy anytime soon.

[Hardkill]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You should consider, though, how many people Communism killed in China.

Don't forget why Vietnam was fought: to stop Commumism from spreading like a virus. That virus still exists in North Korea. Meanwhile South Korea is 100x as prosperous.

North vs South Korea clearly demonstrate what the Vietnam War was really about.

In politics, nothing is as simple as it seems.

I wish South Korea could save North Korea.

[Jodistrict]

North Korea has made a recent defense pack with Russia and will most likely join the BRICS nations.   They will be able to use their alternative payment system to escape crippling western sanctions.   North Korea will  then be able to break out of its isolation and develop its economy.

 

https://www.cointribune.com/en/north-koreas-brics-approach-forging-a-new-global-equilibrium/

Edited August 12, 2024 by Jodistrict

[Talinn]

6 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

North Korea has made a recent defense pack with Russia and will most likely join the BRICS nations.   They will be able to use their alternative payment system to escape crippling western sanctions.   North Korea will  then be able to break out of its isolation and develop its economy.

 

https://www.cointribune.com/en/north-koreas-brics-approach-forging-a-new-global-equilibrium/

What do you mean by "develop"? The corruption, malice and despotism within that country is too severe for any international agreement to make much of a difference within that country. It might help the Kims, but it will benefit the average person there exceedingly little.

[Bobby_2021]

10 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

North Korea has made a recent defense pack with Russia and will most likely join the BRICS nations.   They will be able to use their alternative payment system to escape crippling western sanctions.   North Korea will  then be able to break out of its isolation and develop its economy.

https://www.cointribune.com/en/north-koreas-brics-approach-forging-a-new-global-equilibrium/

I am pretty hopeful of BRICS integration of North Korea, atleast indirectly via Russia. 

Russia is an indispensable part of BRICS and NK is tightly integrated with Russia.

11 hours ago, Hardkill said:

China is currently in serious trouble with their economy. They've been struggling with a real deflation problem for several months and the government has been doing a poor job with not allowing sufficient investment. 

Chinese economy has been on the brink of collapse for years now. So far nothing has happened. It's the US economy that's a bubble, if I have to bet. 

15 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

You are forgetting that North Vietnam actually won the war and it was their communist government that has created their current successful economy.  

True. They tried to mess it up with their indiscriminate bombing campaign but still failed. 

North Korea could have been like that, if not sanctioned to death. 

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Omg, you are not seriously gonna simp for North Korea and blame that on the West.

I can't.

The west has been simping behind the Saudi prince for decades. I don't get what you are melting down for.

I see no reason to inflict needless suffering upon North Korean people with bullshit sanctions. Unless you are racist against North Koreans, which I highly doubt.

So much for expanding your circle of concern to include everyone except North Koreans.

[Bobby_2021]

16 hours ago, Emerald said:

How would that put the US at an advantage to measure GDP in dollars?

You could convert that into Pounds, Yen, Yuan, or any other currency... and you'd still get the same proportional differential.

Less doesn't suddenly become more when you convert it into a different currency.

It's not like that. This is how it works.

Recently I visited a hospital to admit me nephew. We stayed there for 3-4 days and the total bills for food, accommodation, doctors fee and medicines amounted to a whopping $100. The rooms had 3 beds, clean and air conditioned with attached toilets.

Now try going to a hospital in the US. For the same service you will get charged a $1000 or more.

But the absolute value added is the same, more or less. But if you take nominal GDP it seems as though 10 times more value was added in the US as opposed to India. 

It's because the value of the USD is relative to the place it's spent.  $100 is far more valuable in India or China than in US. That the difference in PPP( purchasing power parity).

The stats you put out is nominal GDP. GDP which is corrected for PPP is a more realistic measure of the strength of the economy.

People who still that US economy is stronger than China doesn't take into account PPP. 

Look at the trade that countries with China and the US.

More countries get value from China than the US. And the difference is only increasing as more countries align themselves with BRICS as opposed to the west.

[Bobby_2021]

Holy mother of God. 

Just googled to see if US bombed North Korea. Of course. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_North_Korea

Oh nooo why is every thrashing the west. Nooooo.. everyone blames the west..noooo

[Hsinav]

On 2024-08-11 at 3:40 PM, Beans said:

@Leo Gura  I don’t appreciate this kind of. Unfruitful and Toxic Behavior. I assumed this form was about spirituality? And didn’t honor low iq standards.  

So you ASSumed!

[Forestluv]

A few observations the last week:

1. For 30 yrs, I've worked as a teacher in education systems. . . from my perspective, Tim and Gwen have embodied aspects of teaching that is not easy to embody. I've watched videos of Tim and Gwen speak about teaching as well as their former students speak about the impact Tim and Gwen had on them. I can tell they are extraordinary at meeting students where they are at with patience, care and inspiration. . . It is much easier to intellectually know about this aspect of teaching aspect than to actually embody it. 

2. Kamala and Tim are an example of the value of "DEI". In a sense, Tim Walz is a "DEI hire" - in particular, he adds diversity and inclusion. It's one thing to describe new elements Walz brings (such as a different demographic backgrounds and gender), it's another thing to actually show value in how you are living. . . I think Kamala and Tim have good chemistry and she is learning from him. 

3. Walz has never used a teleprompter in his life, until recently. I can understand Harris' team wanting to stay on message and to avoid gaffes, yet Walz is very good speaking off-the-cuff in the moment. Today, he is speaking to a high school sports team and he is speaking to them as a teacher / coach. 

3. Walz allows Kamala access to certain areas. For example, when Kamala and Tim are in a school building, or with a sports team, - it's not a "photo-op". It's Tim's world. It would be like an Olympic athlete being in a locker room - it's a totally normal part of their life. . . Similarly, Tim gives access into "working class" spaces, such as Unions. . . These dynamics would be very different with a Harris / Shapiro ticket. 

4. I think criticisms that Kamala is a chameleon for personal gain has some truth to it. My impression is that her orientation is toward being the leader of a movement and is malleable to the details of what that movement is. In my view, her range is solid left to centrist and she is comfortable working within that range (albeit difficult to do). . . This allows her to interact with a variety of subgroups such as Pro-Palestinian groups as well as major corporate donors. . . Rather than having a pre-defined set of convictions, she is more-suited to be a leader / spokesperson for an underlying movement. - Within a range of Bernie Sanders solid left to solid Centrist, yet would not be effective as a far left leader or a right-wing leader since it is outside her range of malleability. . . In a sense, she is a typical politician that changed her positions for political gain. In another sense, she wants to be a leader / spokesperson for things she can believe in. There is a form of authenticity that comes with that. In contrast, the changing positions of Lyndsay Graham are very inauthentic. 

5. Kamala has extraordinary coaching and she is teachable. In particular, every speech she improves various aspects of public speaking . . . One thing I was impressed with was how she evolved her interaction with Palestine protestors. One rally, she came across as dismissive to many. Then the next day's rally she had a very different response that was much more inclusive. A space that allowed for a different voice to be heard and acknowledging value in that. . . I was impressed by how seamlessly Kamala was able adapt - which ties into my points above - she has some flexibility and adaptability. 

6. In terms of Spiral Dynamics, I would put Kamala's range to be Orange to entry Yellow. Her expressions of Orange and Green are obvious. Yellow is harder to get a feel for since Yellow spaces are disadvantageous from a strategy perspective. The vast majority of Americans range from Blue to Green. . . Yellow mindspaces is not good for effective messaging - it is waaay too nuanced. . . Yellow would be better for "behind-the-scenes" type of things. . . Yet I've seen Kamala reveal glimpses of Yellow and I could see her being "pulled up" to those conscious spaces by those around her. For example, she has spoken about her love of Venn Diagrams, which is "bread-and-butter" to a Yellow mindstate. . . Even if her mindspace doesn't default to integration / system thinkers, I can see her being open, curious and engaged with a roomful of minds centered at integration / systems. 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Forestluv

[Leo Gura]

39 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Yellow

Don't get ahead of your skiis.

[Forestluv]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't get ahead of your skiis.

Yea. . . I downgraded her upper range half a level to "entry Yellow".

[DocWatts]

16 hours ago, Forestluv said:

Yea. . . I downgraded her upper range half a level to "entry Yellow".

A yellow outlook is great, but that alone isn't sufficient.

Obama arguably had some Yellow tendencies, but that didn't necessarily translate into an effective political platform.

In practice, he squandered a lot of his political capital trying to compromise with Republicans who were acting in bad faith, and missed an opportunity to be a transformative president. And he didn't leave office with a sustained democratic coalition that could defeat Trump in 2016. 

Competent Green-Orange politicians of integrity who are able to articulate a vision for the country that can inspire people, and who are willing to fight for it, are what's needed right now.

 

 

Edited August 19, 2024 by DocWatts

[El Zapato]

On 8/12/2024 at 9:42 AM, Bobby_2021 said:

Yes it counts. #MongolsGoBack #ResistMongoliOccupation

Mongolians were mixed with Turks and other neolithic types.  The original bad gene comes from the Caucasus region. Post the last ice age, the gene escaped into Eurasia after being held at bay by climate.  

[El Zapato]

On 7/22/2024 at 6:43 AM, OBEler said:

Is she writing that to children?

Sorry for America but I feel better a senile man than this.

mental and psychological children.  Yes, that is the definitive vibe I get