President Kamala Harris.

[aurum]

The democratic base definitely seems to like Walz. They will make a good ticket together.

 

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, JTL said:

@Leo Gura what do you think about Tim Walz as now confirmed VP? 

I guess he's solid.

Edited August 6, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Frylock]

Walz is a good pick. Charismatic, yet plain midwestern man that Republicans are going to have a very difficult time attacking effectively, just like they have so far with Kamala.

Edited August 6, 2024 by Frylock

[Leo Gura]

Walz is impressive:

Very good choice.

The Orange Devil is on the ropes now.

Edited August 7, 2024 by Leo Gura

[voxun]

I remember a debate where Tulsi Gabbard completly whiped the floor with her.

The US political just seems broken from an outside perspective. Those are your only choices Trump or Harris.... really? I guess RFK jr. would be the best choice. 

[Joshe]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't like this weirdo language, it is needlessly vague.

The bottom line is that Trump and Vance are both corrupt and dangerous. Anyone can understand that. I don't see a need here to pander to children.

Weirdo is how you might describe Trump to a 4 year old child.

Think about it. What scares adult conformists the most? The last thing they want to be is weird. I wonder if that’s the main reason the attack works. It’s the effect on their energies that is important, not the message. It really was a clever attack IMO, but it’s time for it to die before it becomes cringe.

[Joshe]

Optics wise , Kamala and Walz look great together. Side by side comparison, these two look competent, energetic, and ready to roll up their sleeves while Trump and Vance look like burnt out bullshitters who need a break from their con games. 

[ricachica]

https://youtu.be/3fuS9PmV9hg?si=0_htxpSSzv4V3kWf

 

He is great at talking.

[Girzo]

6 hours ago, voxun said:

I guess RFK jr. would be the best choice. 

You see Harris x Walz pick and think "I would have preffered RFK jr."? You are the type of guy to go to a gourmet restaurant and then say I would have preferred KFC. Like there's no comparison, they are both proper professional politicians and RFK is a mess with weird ideas.

[Leo Gura]

Now RFK Jr fits the weirdo description perfectly.

[PurpleTree]

smh donald trump is a narcissist freak

and kamala harris seems like a total creep

this isn’t great

[Davino]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Walz is impressive:

 

I now have hope for America 🇺🇸

[Epikur]

She was quite a big fan of the BLM 'heroes:
 

 

Edited August 7, 2024 by Epikur

[voxun]

5 hours ago, Girzo said:

You see Harris x Walz pick and think "I would have preffered RFK jr."? You are the type of guy to go to a gourmet restaurant and then say I would have preferred KFC. Like there's no comparison, they are both proper professional politicians and RFK is a mess with weird ideas.

Maybe RFK is a weirdo but Harris is terrible. The democratic party just appointed her. Isn't there supposed to be a pre-election to select the right canidate? Anyway President Harris wil just be more war. At least RFK seems like someone who would not seek out war. He did a lot of good in his life. Harris was in the prison business.

Edited August 7, 2024 by voxun

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, voxun said:

Maybe RFK is a weirdo but Harris is terrible. The democratic party just appointed her. Isn't there supposed to be a pre-election to select the right canidate? Anyway President Harris wil just be more war. At least RFK seems like someone who would not seek out war. He did a lot of good in his life. Harris was in the prison business.

You sure about that? RFK jr. is even more pro-Israel and more hawkish about the war in Gaza than even Biden and Trump have been. Not once, has RFK jr. called for a ceasefire or even mention a word about the suffering the Palestinians have been going through. 

At least, Biden, Harris, Walz, and the rest of the Democratic party have been wanting to put an end to the war in Gaza and to help save as many innocent lives in Palestine as possible.

Also, Harris was already on the same ticket as Biden was. Plus, look at the record amount of small dollar grassroot funding there has been for her and the tremendous amount of enthusiasm there has been for her. If that doesn't represent what the Democratic voters throughout the entire country truly want for their Democratic nominee for president, then what does?

[DocWatts]

20 hours ago, Joshe said:

Think about it. What scares adult conformists the most? The last thing they want to be is weird. I wonder if that’s the main reason the attack works. It’s the effect on their energies that is important, not the message. It really was a clever attack IMO, but it’s time for it to die before it becomes cringe.

On 8/6/2024 at 11:03 AM, Leo Gura said:

I don't like this weirdo language, it is needlessly vague.

The bottom line is that Trump and Vance are both corrupt and dangerous. Anyone can understand that. I don't see a need here to pander to children.

Weirdo is how you might describe Trump to a 4 year old child.

 

 

[Emerald]

On 8/6/2024 at 11:03 AM, Leo Gura said:

I don't like this weirdo language, it is needlessly vague.

The bottom line is that Trump and Vance are both corrupt and dangerous. Anyone can understand that. I don't see a need here to pander to children.

Weirdo is how you might describe Trump to a 4 year old child.

The weird attacks are actually rhetorically brilliant... but only when followed up by how Trump, Vance, and other MAGA Republicans (in reference to Project 2025) tend to be busy-bodies who are obsessed with stuff that most normal people don't want and don't care about... like banning books, banning in vitro fertilization, tracking women's menstrual cycles, banning abortion without exceptions, banning birth control, banning porn, and other extremely authoritarian unpopular positions... many of which have to do with controlling women's bodies. Not to mention the fixation on trans people.

Most normal people who don't get their politics from 4Chan, aren't fixated on all this sexual grievance politics stuff. And this is reflected in polling and in direct ballot initiatives as even red states vote overwhelmingly pro-choice. 

These fringe positions that MAGA focuses on aren't kitchen table issues. So, most people don't care that much about them... even if they do lean to the right. Many Trump supporters even have zero clue about his policies and just like the "tough guy" Trump image.

And rhetorically... you'll also want to consider that people don't mind being associated with a dangerous candidate... as this adds to the "tough guy" appeal that Trump wants to give off. And the base LOVES when people characterize Trump as dangerous... because they like the image of him as a renegade who's upsetting the system. 

And even though you and I know that's silly. It's how a lot of low information voters and politically disengaged people can think... and what they can get drawn into. And those are the voting blocks that especially matter right now. 

And the weird attacks are doing something in the eyes of the normies, that's similar to the dynamic where conservatives started portraying anyone left of center as a weirdo ugly raving lunatic with blue hair.... screaming strangely at someone in the middle of the street. And this weirdo image has chased lots of people away from the left... simply because they don't want to be associated with weirdness and extremes.

Even center lefties might fall into disavowing more leftward positions because they want to avoid being seen in that weird light. And that's what a great offensive political characterization that emphasizes weakness and patheticness INSTEAD of danger and corruption does. 

And most of all, normies don't want to be associated with weirdness.

Normies want to be normal. And conservative-leaning normies ESPECIALLY want to be normal.

If the weird characterizations stick, and they seem to be, then this could take some decent sized chips out of Trump's normie vote.

Honestly, consider how a lot of people think... 

If he's dangerous, he's one of the cool rebellious kids. But if he's weird, he's just a lame kid and probably smells bad... and people won't want to get that smell on them. 

[Raze]

On 8/6/2024 at 11:03 AM, Leo Gura said:

I don't like this weirdo language, it is needlessly vague.

The bottom line is that Trump and Vance are both corrupt and dangerous. Anyone can understand that. I don't see a need here to pander to children.

Weirdo is how you might describe Trump to a 4 year old child.

Democrats have been non stop calling Trump corrupt and dangerous since 2016, that has been maxed out, they are trying something new.

I agree that I don’t think it’s a good tactic, to me it just seems to appeal to feminine social shaming but the people convinced by that were already voting against Trump. 

[voxun]

13 hours ago, Hardkill said:

You sure about that? RFK jr. is even more pro-Israel and more hawkish about the war in Gaza than even Biden and Trump have been. Not once, has RFK jr. called for a ceasefire or even mention a word about the suffering the Palestinians have been going through. 

At least, Biden, Harris, Walz, and the rest of the Democratic party have been wanting to put an end to the war in Gaza and to help save as many innocent lives in Palestine as possible.

Also, Harris was already on the same ticket as Biden was. Plus, look at the record amount of small dollar grassroot funding there has been for her and the tremendous amount of enthusiasm there has been for her. If that doesn't represent what the Democratic voters throughout the entire country truly want for their Democratic nominee for president, then what does?

They are more then eager to keep pumping billions into Ukraine. Just gave away my old gardening furniture to a Ukrainian refugee yesterday. 

Edited August 8, 2024 by voxun

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Raze said:

Democrats have been non stop calling Trump corrupt and dangerous since 2016, that has been maxed out, they are trying something new.

That's why I call him the Orange Devil.

Can't we all just agree to call him that?

Edited August 8, 2024 by Leo Gura