Enlightenment is just a begining

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, James123 said:

which mean is mind does not chat whatsoever.

My mind can be silent and same time closed. Enlightenment is more. It's the opening to the absolute, it's unthinkable, that's why it's not permanent for me, because my mind isn't in the right frequency. It's something extremely difficult, all our genetics, our evolution, is shouting : close your mind 

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

My mind can be silent and same time closed. Enlightenment is more. It's the opening to the absolute, it's unthinkable, that's why it's not permanent for me, because my mind isn't in the right frequency. It's something extremely difficult, all our genetics, our evolution, is shouting : close your mind 

If I slap your face so hard, and at that moment if you do not think, therefore not react, you are in good place. You are open whatever infinity brings to you. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

If I slap your face so hard, and at that moment if you do not think, therefore not react, you are in good place. You are open whatever infinity brings to you. 

It is not as simple as being silent. Silence is necessary, but there are subconscious mechanisms that close, structures of the mind that block perception. The mind is a filter that has that function, among others. It is a machine for the survival and evolution of the species, and it puts this before open perception.

The full glory of existence does not reveal itself so easily, it requires a very profound restructuring. If you were enlightened it would be the same for you if your son lives or dies. it is?

[Ishanga]

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

No, it is not. 

You only say that because Your too Touched by Life, as most of Us here are. Being Touched by Life is the same as saying One has Entanglements, Attachments, Ruled by Duality and Slaves to outside situations... Being Untouched by Life means You still have Feelings, You still have Love, Friends and Family that You care deeply about, Desires and Plans, Goals and all the rest, but it doesn't Rule You, You don't Suffer it, You still Feel Pain as an Enlightened Being, but You don't Suffer it, Suffering Comes from Ego mostly, bruised Ego and What about Me always is Involved with Suffering...

Enlightenment is not the Beginning but its not the End, its just what is says it is, To Enlighten One's Perception and Awareness of Truth, that's all it is...via that you mostly feel Blissed Out, but even when Blissed Out, a Stubbed Toe still hurts!

Edited July 5 by Ishanga

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

The full glory of existence does not reveal itself so easily, it requires a very profound restructuring. If you were enlightened it would be the same for you if your son lives or dies. it is?

Of course, I can surrender anything and everything except my son, wife , and mom. Fuck job, appearance, money, society, etc... but my son's situation burns my chest like mf. If I surrender them, I will be completely death. 

[James123]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

You only say that because Your too Touched by Life, as most of Us here are. Being Touched by Life is the same as saying One has Entanglements, Attachments, Ruled by Duality and Slaves to outside situations... Being Untouched by Life means You still have Feelings, You still have Love, Friends and Family that You care deeply about, Desires and Plans, Goals and all the rest, but it doesn't Rule You, You don't Suffer it, You still Feel Pain as an Enlightened Being, but You don't Suffer it, Suffering Comes from Ego mostly, bruised Ego and What about Me always is Involved with Suffering...

Enlightenment is not the Beginning but its not the End, its just what is says it is, To Enlighten One's Perception and Awareness of Truth, that's all it is...via that you mostly feel Blissed Out, but even when Blissed Out, a Stubbed Toe still hurts!

No, I don't have any friends, desire money, etc... I just afraid of my son, wife and mom. That's it. 

Enlightenment is recognition of True self. But, it is not the end of the path. 

[Ishanga]

Just now, James123 said:

Of course, I can surrender anything and everything except my son, wife , and mom. Fuck job, appearance, money, society, etc... but my son's situation burns my chest like mf. If I surrender them, I will be completely death. 

Now with this Your playing Intellectual Games of What If, why do You have to Surrender anything? You can Play the Game of it, enjoy it, Love the family and such, no problem with it, isn't that what we want for each of Us, but many ppl Suffer it too, they have the family and they still suffer the loss of the family when there is no loss in the first place, its imagination of what if's coming up, if this case that person is not Enlightened...

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, James123 said:

Of course, I can surrender anything and everything except my son, wife , and mom. Fuck job, appearance, money, society, etc... but my son's situation burns my chest like mf. If I surrender them, I will be completely death. 

That's normal, you are a human, same than me. Be enlightened is not being human anymore. It's something very rare. We are, let's say, awake to what enlightenment is, but not enlightened, and probably never will in this life, but who knows 

[Evelyna]

33 minutes ago, James123 said:

You are born, because you learn your birth, family, universe etc... you will die when you forget the stuff since your birth, including the birth. Death is the being before your birth. So when you die, you will go back where you come from, which is surrendering the entire stuff you have. That's all. 

☺️dear James123 , we are going round in circles, I don’t know anything for sure, but maybe you do and maybe that’s true. I can’t say for sure. 

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

No, I don't have any friends, desire money, etc... I just afraid of my son, wife and mom. That's it. 

Enlightenment is recognition of True self. But, it is not the end of the path. 

Why don't You feel Blessed to have Son, Wife and Mom? Why suffer that You have them here? Your suffering the future that does not exist, the What If, the imagination gone out of control, so that means Your entangled and attached, if you lose them its over for You, that is not the highest possibility for Us.. If one loses someone they should feel Blessed to have had them in their life for whatever amount of time, but very few ppl do this or or capable of it, because of entanglement and attachment.. The Enlightened One is beyond this, yes they will feel the emotional pain of losing a loved one, but it doesn't destroy them via a Suffering of sorts..

Edited July 5 by Ishanga

[James123]

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[James123]

2 minutes ago, Evelyna said:

☺️dear James123 , we are going round in circles, I don’t know anything for sure, but maybe you do and maybe that’s true. I can’t say for sure. 

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

[James123]

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One more video for you guys.

 

 

[Ishanga]

29 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall @Ishanga

One more video for you guys.

 

 

Referring to an outside source means You don't know..which is okay, You and most all of Us do not know, this causes seeking to Know, which kills belief systems and conditioning that You already have and ignites Your Intelligence and other capabilities to seek to Know, its like turning on the lights in a dark room, most ppl are living in dark rooms spiritually and perception wise... but You have to find out, I have to find out for ourselves, to seek to know,,not using others and what they say, his truth is only a Story for everyone listening, it can only inspire...Inspire one to do what? Too seek that is all..

Your Statement "Enlightenment is only the Beginning" is coming from not knowing Enlightenment...

Edited July 5 by Ishanga

[James123]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

Referring to an outside source means You don't know..which is okay, You and most all of Us do not know, this causes seeking to Know, which kills belief systems and conditioning that You already have and ignites Your Intelligence and other capabilities to seek to Know, its like turning on the lights in a dark room, most ppl are living in dark rooms spiritually and perception wise... but You have to find out, I have to find out for ourselves, to seek to know,,not using others and what they say, his truth is only a Story for everyone listening, it can only inspire...Inspire one to do what? Too seek that is all..

What Raltson says I agree, that's only why I have shared lol. In order To better understand me. Lol.