Don't let "needing 1000s of hours of meditation" be limiting belief that slows you

[Keryo Koffa]

All you need to do is to let go of everything that holds you back. And that's a massive ego identity issue. You have to become more aware and expand your perspective, you have to synergize your understanding and let go of all needs. But you can do that through conscious active work, emotional jujitsu, counter-intuitive feelings reversal to get to the source, realizing the arbitrariness of all desires and feelings on dissociatives, expanding your awareness and integrating the understanding of arbitrariness between reality and imagination through psychedelics, bringing out extreme emotions and fears through cannabis. Become radically open minded and dynamically balance yourself. Face the core and source of every emotion and sensation. Realize the freedom of response-ability and how you can instantly change your circumstance through conscious effort. Let go of outcome and realize lifelong dedication to working on yourself with the goal to reach the truth which will make you at peace and in love. Work through all emotional drama, accelerating the process through perpetual motivation since it makes you feel lighter every time. Do something three times to establish a positive habit and then let go of that at some point.

AND THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION SINCE THIS WILL SURELY TAKE MOST AND TOOK ME OVER A THOUSAND HOURS, BUT DON'T HOLD THAT AS A BELIEF TO SLOW YOU DOWN. EACH MOMENT YOU TAKE ACTION, YOU TRANSCEND YOURSELF AND THAT WILL ACCELRATE, BUT YOU GOTTA START WHERE YOU'RE AT AND YOU WILL KNOW SINCE THAT'S THE HURDLE

This is a post for all those who feel as I felt, demotivated that it will take forever, instead realize it doesn't matter and your baseline changes and improves and you will feel better and freer each time you face some difficulty and become aware of the source of your current focus

Of course, be responsible, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but what if it does kill you and not in the good way, trust your intuition! Don't go so far that it will cripple you, or send the pendulum so far that it makes you stop and turn bitter and miserable! Be aware of the risks of shortcuts and substances, their cost is their intensity, imagine being stranded in hell or being eaten alive, now integrate that before the suggestion or unconscious fear manifests in experience and be directly aware of the illusory nature of reality, ego, fear, fear of death, fear of the unknown, fear of dissolving your identity, fear of inhuman discomfort. Be careful, be aware, integrate.

But don't let the notion of needing so long slow you down and its a rule, maybe it doesn't apply to you at all and you can do it in one! But to understand the relative domain, you have to learn about it and the process will take time as well.

[Davino]

1) Don't underestimate it either

2) All paths are hard as HELL

3) Some more than others, depending on... who knows what?

[Keryo Koffa]

@Davino TRUE! But you can also fall into the trap of meditating waiting for something to happen and subconsciously not allowing it to because you believe yourself to be humble and reject all insights because "they can't possibly be it, masters take far longer to acquire those". Meanwhile the only thing that matters is that you're at the edge of your knowledge and self-understanding and expand from there. You don't even have to care about making progress if instead you recognize that any and all progress propels you forward and is good for you, making you accelerate in the process of actively engaging in making your life better and deconstructing your own psychology!

Also, imagine if actually the only reason why it becomes hard is because you believe it to be. The ego constructs its own obstacles! You realize that on psychedelics, when you step out of your context.

Edited July 4 by Keryo Koffa

[Davino]

5 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

TRUE! But you can also fall into the trap of meditating waiting for something to happen and subconsciously not allowing it to because you believe yourself to be humble and reject all insights because "they can't possibly be it, masters take far longer to acquire those". Meanwhile the only thing that matters is that you're at the edge of your knowledge and self-understanding and expand from there. You don't even have to care about making progress if instead you recognize that any and all progress propels you forward and is good for you, making you accelerate in the process of actively engaging in making your life better and deconstructing your own psychology!

It is so

5 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

 Also, imagine if actually the only reason why it becomes hard is because you believe it to be. The ego constructs its own obstacles! You realize that on psychedelics, when you step out of your context.

It is not so

Psychedelics are Hard

Meditation is harder 

Both are Hard but in different degrees.

Awakening to the most profound states of Consciousness is extremely rare independent of the methodology used.

You're gonna sweat blood in both and I don't why this is so but it is so. Awakening takes talent, genius and luck.

It's like getting hit by a lightning bolt. You con do things to maximise your chances but there is no causality or bargain you can do.

 

 

Edited July 4 by Davino

[Keryo Koffa]

8 minutes ago, Davino said:

It is so

It is not so

Psychedelics are Hard

Meditation is harder 

Both are Hard but in different degrees.

Awakening to the most profound states of Consciousness is extremely rare independent of the methodology used.

You're gonna sweat blood in both and I don't why this is so but it is so. Awakening takes talent and genius.

I'm afraid this is but one perspective and its own paradigm-lock, based purely on interpersonal experience. Inquire why it is hard to begin with, why is anything hard to begin with? Is it the physical sensation of adapting one's structure or is the ego's programmed imposition of resistance towards change, self-doubt and the obstacle of one's psychological structure which has hurdles that have to be physically overcome but may not be essential and perhaps a state of consciousness exists in which all that isn't the case, even if none of us will experience it. Maybe that's the nature of god's infinite intelligence itself and our existence is rooted in resistance due to it being necessary for all knowledge not to be instantly attained and all illusions dissolved into absolute infinity. But the question of resistance and hardships being essential are still assumptions even if they turn out to be experientially true for 100% of humans. But even so, maybe its a self-reinforcing belief that can be let go of to a large extent and maybe some people are naturally born geniuses because they lack this specific limitation and sense of hardship as some are born without pain.

Edited July 4 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

Of course.

 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Javfly33 It kind of shocked me, but yes, my contemplation led me to see ignorance not as a lack of knowledge, but its obstruction, like a mist surrounding one's awareness.

[Javfly33]

31 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Javfly33 It kind of shocked me, but yes, my contemplation led me to see ignorance not as a lack of knowledge, but its obstruction, like a mist surrounding one's awareness.

Is obvious,  whatever Reality is, whatever you Are, is clearly RIGHT NOW completely It. 

There is no such a thing as 'Right now I am this, but when I do x hours of meditation or I get enlightened I will be THAT'.

Clearly you are THAT always, there is no other way, if you would not be THAT at any point in time, it would not be the ultimate you, it would not be really the Real You, it would be just a relative you, an identity, a passing accumulation 😃

Edited July 5 by Javfly33

[Dodo]

22 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

All you need to do is to let go of everything that holds you back. And that's a massive ego identity issue. You have to become more aware and expand your perspective, you have to synergize your understanding and let go of all needs. But you can do that through conscious active work, emotional jujitsu, counter-intuitive feelings reversal to get to the source, realizing the arbitrariness of all desires and feelings on dissociatives, expanding your awareness and integrating the understanding of arbitrariness between reality and imagination through psychedelics, bringing out extreme emotions and fears through cannabis. Become radically open minded and dynamically balance yourself. Face the core and source of every emotion and sensation. Realize the freedom of response-ability and how you can instantly change your circumstance through conscious effort. Let go of outcome and realize lifelong dedication to working on yourself with the goal to reach the truth which will make you at peace and in love. Work through all emotional drama, accelerating the process through perpetual motivation since it makes you feel lighter every time. Do something three times to establish a positive habit and then let go of that at some point.

AND THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION SINCE THIS WILL SURELY TAKE MOST AND TOOK ME OVER A THOUSAND HOURS, BUT DON'T HOLD THAT AS A BELIEF TO SLOW YOU DOWN. EACH MOMENT YOU TAKE ACTION, YOU TRANSCEND YOURSELF AND THAT WILL ACCELRATE, BUT YOU GOTTA START WHERE YOU'RE AT AND YOU WILL KNOW SINCE THAT'S THE HURDLE

This is a post for all those who feel as I felt, demotivated that it will take forever, instead realize it doesn't matter and your baseline changes and improves and you will feel better and freer each time you face some difficulty and become aware of the source of your current focus

Of course, be responsible, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but what if it does kill you and not in the good way, trust your intuition! Don't go so far that it will cripple you, or send the pendulum so far that it makes you stop and turn bitter and miserable! Be aware of the risks of shortcuts and substances, their cost is their intensity, imagine being stranded in hell or being eaten alive, now integrate that before the suggestion or unconscious fear manifests in experience and be directly aware of the illusory nature of reality, ego, fear, fear of death, fear of the unknown, fear of dissolving your identity, fear of inhuman discomfort. Be careful, be aware, integrate.

But don't let the notion of needing so long slow you down and its a rule, maybe it doesn't apply to you at all and you can do it in one! But to understand the relative domain, you have to learn about it and the process will take time as well.

I've  read before, that with meditation quality is more important than quantity. A very focused meditation done once intensely or in the right way, with the right pointers can be more effective than a daily practice.

[Davino]

@Keryo Koffa It is theoretically so but not practically.

A tree takes decades to grow from the seed.

It is what it is. You can speed up things but not break its nature, not as a realistic approach at least.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Is obvious,  whatever Reality is, whatever you Are, is clearly RIGHT NOW completely It. 

There is no such a thing as 'Right now I am this, but when I do x hours of meditation or I get enlightened I will be THAT'.

Clearly you are THAT always, there is no other way, if you would not be THAT at any point in time, it would not be the ultimate you, it would not be really the Real You, it would be just a relative you, an identity, a passing accumulation 😃

That's also the case, but that doesn't make a monkey Awake.

Despite being always already _______ 

[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

That's also the case, but that doesn't make a monkey Awake.

Despite being always already _______ 

Not sure what is your point 🤔

Edited July 5 by Javfly33

[Evelyna]

On 04/07/2024 at 1:18 PM, Keryo Koffa said:

working on yourself with the goal to reach the truth

Here I will particularly refer to “ with the goal to reach the truth” . I don’t know about the rest of this planets population but I personally keep my attention on the present moment as much as I can, i don’t think I have the ultimate goal of reaching the ultimate truth, because in this life I choose to enjoy the very present, to me the moment is important, what will I do in the next moment , next hour and so on, to me importance is in the experiance of life and my reality and I appreciate more and more this earth life the longer I live. 
 Of course as an example I will book a trip that’s months away but my focus won’t be there until the moment I’m experiencing this trip. 

Word on meditation, here I think it will have different significance and meaning to each of us, there’s many many ways to meditate and I use meditation as a tool to help me with loads of different things, sometimes I will communicate with my body in meditation, sometimes I will be visualising, going on shamanic journey for certain healing purposes or just focusing on my breath for a little while, and once a month I attend reiki and sound bath at 432hz during which I focus on the sound, vibration, frequency and let whatever it is to show up in my mind/ imagination but there is always one thing involved for all the types of meditation and that is focus. Meditation can be beneficial and can be used as a tool for sure, how you will use it is up to you.
 

By staying in the present moment whatever that might be I have evolved my thinking, habits, understanding and so on… naturally , without putting pressure on myself in reaching enlightenment the only goal I really ever have is to experiance.  It took me some time and practise to even see the present moment and understand that my focus , where my attention is , is of at most importance to my self development.  But this is different for everyone , again I am speaking only from my own experiance on this earth. 

[Davino]

@Javfly33 The timeless takes time to be realized, despite being always already the case.

 

Common trap:

-But it's already the case!

+Yes!

-Then I'm already Awake!

+No!

-How can it take time to realize what I already am?

+ It is exactly so. The point is for infinity to manifest in its infinite form.

Edited July 5 by Davino

[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

@Javfly33 The timeless takes time to be realized, despite being always already the case.

 

Common trap:

-But it's already the case!

+Yes!

-Then I'm already Awake!

+No!

-How can it take time to realize what I already am?

+ It is exactly so. The point is for infinity to manifest in its infinite form.

Of course, I never play those kind of games with people of saying they are already enlightened. 😬

 

[Dodo]

9 hours ago, Davino said:

@Javfly33 The timeless takes time to be realized, despite being always already the case.

 

Common trap:

-But it's already the case!

+Yes!

-Then I'm already Awake!

+No!

-How can it take time to realize what I already am?

+ It is exactly so. The point is for infinity to manifest in its infinite form.

-But it's already the case!

+Yes!

-Then I'm already Awake!

+Yes!

-Then why u tellin me I must practice more?

+Cuz you don't know what you are

Top lols 

[Javfly33]

34 minutes ago, Dodo said:

-But it's already the case!

+Yes!

-Then I'm already Awake!

+Yes!

-Then why u tellin me I must practice more?

+Cuz you don't know what you are

Top lols 

I think the trick here is that "Im Awake" is never true. The self never becomes awake because there is no Self. 

What which is True realizes itself or is in "sleep mode" so to speak. 

 

[Davino]

41 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I think the trick here is that "Im Awake" is never true.

I once become so Awake that I thought my eyes would pop out of my skull

[Keryo Koffa]

54 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I think the trick here is that "Im Awake" is never true. The self never becomes awake because there is no Self. 

What which is True realizes itself or is in "sleep mode" so to speak. 

The way I understand it, focus obscures vision, though everything is available here to be realized already.

It's like seeing an environment of objects but not being able to distinguish them, though here its probably the opposite.

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, Davino said:

I once become so Awake that I thought my eyes would pop out of my skull

🤣 

 

11 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

The way I understand it, focus obscures vision, though everything is available here to be realized already.

It's like seeing an environment of objects but not being able to distinguish them, though here its probably the opposite.

what you mean by focus?