Let me teach you a lesson in epistemology

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes the universe disappeared when you don't look at it .check your direct experience that that's literally the case .

Then , if you are creating everything, why you can't move objects with your mind? Or create anything that you want?

[Someone here]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then , if you are creating everything, why you can't move objects with your mind? Or create anything that you want?

Good one .

Look ..you agree that nighttime dreams are 100% generated by you ..but you still can't dream whatever you want .. but notice ..at the same time the dream is exactly created by you and none other than you .

Same thing happening right now ..everything is ALREADY what "I "want .it is 100% my creation.  The trick is who is this "I"..? It is NOT the ego or the sense of self that you have behind your eyes somewhere.  It is the godhead which is who you are and which you as an ego can only have an access to in a radically high state of consciousness..  which you can achieve with psychedelics. and psychonauts do have this ability . And there are highly conscious Yogis who do possess this ability .

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Someone here said:

the godhead which is who you are and which you as an ego can only have an access to in a radically high state of consciousness..  which you can achieve with psychedelics. and psychonauts do have this ability . And there are highly conscious Yogis who do possess this ability .

Then they should can move objects with their mind, like you could do in a lucid dream

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then they should can move objects with their mind, like you could do in a lucid dream

they CAN and they DO. Sages from all  mystical traditions have demonstrated supernatural powers. Jesus supposedly walked on water and cured blindness with sheer delight.

Research "Siddhis".

 

[James123]

@Someone here waking up meaning is that The one who lives and in the world is the ego / illusion / self / dream. Your True nature is has never born, realization of this is waking up while dreaming. That's why, it is called "Wake Up". 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

they CAN and they DO. Sages from all  mystical traditions have demonstrated supernatural powers. Jesus supposedly walked on water and cured blindness with sheer delight.

Research "Siddhis".

 

No one has proved that never, all of them are liars. Ask Leo, who thought that he could cure himself. Reality is much more complex than a dream, because it's infinite. Imo It's impossible to understand with the mind, but who knows. 

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Someone here waking up meaning is that The one who lives and in the world is the ego / illusion / self / dream. Your True nature is has never born, realization of this is waking up while dreaming. That's why, it is called "Wake Up". 

I agree that the ego is illusory.  No antagonism about that .

And I agree that my true nature is birthless and deathless as well .

But ..It's called "waking up " because that's literally what life is ..it's a dream..and you wake up from it to discover that "nothing ever happened " as you like to say often .

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No one has proved that never, all of them are liars. Ask Leo, who thought that he could cure himself. Reality is much more complex than a dream, because it's infinite. Imo It's impossible to understand with the mind, but who knows. 

1) they are not liars .do the research. I'm not gonna hand-feed you the evidence. That's not my problem. 

2) I actually don't agree that reality is infinite.  I'm agnostic about that .you say it's impossible to figure out using the mind but yet are you aware that saying reality is infinite is arrived at using the mind ? (the reasoning is basically that what could limit reality from "outside "? Nothing ..therefore it's endless) . Theologians disagree with that because infinite regress is impossible.  So it's not so obvious (to me at least ) that reality is infinite . But it's obvious to me that it's mental .

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

But ..It's called "waking up " because that's literally what life is ..it's a dream..and you wake up from it to discover that "nothing ever happened " as you like to say often .

Definitely. 💯 

[Breakingthewall]

38 minutes ago, Someone here said:

actually don't agree that reality is infinite

Reality is infinite because it's nothing. It's something very strange, like a natural phenomena. It's impossible to understand, but you can see it and be it. The absolute zero, the unlimited void, is the source of reality and the reality itself. Then ultimately, yes, reality is unreal in that sense, but is, you are, or i am, that is the same, and anything else is irrelevant 

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Reality is infinite because it's nothing. It's something very strange, like a natural phenomena. It's impossible to understand, but you can see it and be it. The absolute zero, the unlimited void, is the source of reality and the reality itself. Then ultimately, yes, reality is unreal in that sense, but is, you are, or i am, that is the same, and anything else is irrelevant 

Yeah I see you using these terms like" unlimited void " a lot ..did you derive that from your psychedelic experiences? I mean are you talking from direct experience or from something you've read or heard other spiritual people say ?(hearsay vs direct consciousness sort of distinction).

[An young being]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

they CAN and they DO. Sages from all  mystical traditions have demonstrated supernatural powers. Jesus supposedly walked on water and cured blindness with sheer delight.

Research "Siddhis".

Truth is always combined with mystical stories, and the intention maybe to draw interest towards it, or maybe something else.

But, there's no single clear evidence which actually proves that any kind of supernatural powers exist.in this world, which has the power to change the laws of physical reality. There can be some exceptions, but they are related to their own human mind and body, not something outside of it in the physical reality. Even most of those could be explained with the help of modern science.

[josemar]

8 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes the universe disappeared when you don't look at it .check your direct experience that that's literally the case .

Where does it come from ? From YOU ..you project it out of your mind .

Close your eyes... And see how your teeth dissapear from your mouth when the dissapeared universe smacks your mouth.

[Keryo Koffa]

10 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes the universe disappeared when you don't look at it .check your direct experience that that's literally the case .

Where does it come from ? From YOU ..you project it out of your mind .

I see what you mean now, well maybe, maybe I need further clarification. Let me draw some distinctions:

There is the ego, current perception, moment to moment awareness. Unaware of the greater context.

I have an idea of a Godhead. The non-dual capital M Mind that contains all possible experience.

And then Ego is a subset of the Godhead. An particular manifestation of experience and form within it.

The Godhead would then contain also the subconscious with contextualizes the flow and change of perception.

Did you become the Godhead to the extent that you saw the exact mechanics of the subconscious processes?

Because I am aware of but have not experientially witnessed how that intelligence creates my experience

Science and philosophy uncover connecting patterns, but I'm yet to witness directly the unfiltered process

Now you might say the present experience is already it, but I believe that because my senses and cognition focus me into the specific reality I witness, there are greater meta forces behind it that are hard to become aware of but can be.