understanding the vegan mind

[Majed]

hello guys would be great to have a catalog of videos to study and understand the vegan mind. 

[Majed]

 

[thenondualtankie]

Studying stage green in general should be enough, you disagree?

[Majed]

@thenondualtankie i mean the vegan mind is distinct from stage green.

[Alexop]

@Majed  Veganism is not neccessarily stage green, it can be stage blue. It is an identity, exacly like the punker or rocker identity. Thye tell a story to themselves: "I am vegan, I protect animals, I am empathic, I am this and that". As long as it does not become an obsession and they don't preach to others like the mormons do with their Jesus, no problem. Veganism is good for the environment and it can be even for the body if veganism makes them avoid more of the junkfood present around. OR it could be detrimental for the body, if they eat two tons of refined carbs and shit instead of meat.

Edited July 3, 2024 by Alexop

[bebotalk]

What's to understand? they believe in compassion to animals.

Most meat-eaters do too, at least most support animal cruelty laws. 

[Majed]

 

[BlueOak]

9 hours ago, Alexop said:

@Majed  Veganism is not neccessarily stage green, it can be stage blue. It is an identity, exacly like the punker or rocker identity. Thye tell a story to themselves: "I am vegan, I protect animals, I am empathic, I am this and that". As long as it does not become an obsession and they don't preach to others like the mormons do with their Jesus, no problem. Veganism is good for the environment and it can be even for the body if veganism makes them avoid more of the junkfood present around. OR it could be detrimental for the body, if they eat two tons of refined carbs and shit instead of meat.

It can be yellow. It is for me. For Green: Sure, I often say I don't need to kill to survive, so I don't, and that when you stop eating something and it's no longer food, you will change your relationship with it. You'll see slaughterhouses as barbaric, like the arenas of Rome. I see them as almost like ritual sacrifices to feed people's cravings. However, I won't argue along the line of what an animal feels, as I would if I were stage green, I can understand panic, imprisonment, and pain, but that's a hard point to argue unless someone is attuned to feeling these things and gives a damn.

All of the above is my own story. Its not practical. People care more about their self-interest, and if you are stage yellow in your reasoning, you are much better equipped to reach the majority orange in England and America for example.

For stage yellow reasoning, practically its stupid at this stage to keep cows and sheep. All for people's cravings. Eat something else for long enough and develop new cravings. These two animals take up so much land for what they produce. The meat industry is keeping land prices high, driving up the cost of everything else; it's taking space away from forests, which could be lowering the temperature of the planet, and wild land to balance the ecosystem; while at the same time, the amount of fuel used to process and move food around, vs vertical farming nearer the location where the food is needed, heats the planet massively.

Climate change affects everything, every aspect of life, as does fuel prices. There's some yellow for you. People might say switch to pigs and chickens on mass, and I would say yes that'll be a start. Obviously, this point is most relevant in England, and Western Europe, or other highly developed places like Japan and other urban areas.

 

Edited July 3, 2024 by BlueOak

[Nivsch]

Personally I am all into the vegan point of view and was vegan myself for 8 years (today 95%+). Their view is advanced and noble. I won't negate the approach of eating meat which was grass fed and lived respectfully and naturally 99.9% of his life (don't do that myself though) what isn't unproblematic at all but still far better from the industrial meat which is really the core of the issue.

Edited July 5, 2024 by Nivsch

[Yimpa]

Berry passionate folks.

[Schizophonia]

The strongest stress response you have, the more idealistic you become to protect your ego.

Benzodiazepines and/or dissociatives turn people into « sociopath » because of that.