The possibility of tapping into Infinite Mind after death ?

[Javfly33]

We all seem lately to agree that we are not inside a physical reality at all but an imaginary field.

A Unlimited field that seems to be able to interconnect each mind with one another. (We are saying each person is a little mind of this Field)

 

So my question is...would it be possible that when physical body dies,  you can tap into the Infinite Unified Mind and 'receive' information of other minds? Basically integrating their whole life as yours, like you actually lived their life. 

Because spirituality says: The only reason you are experiencing your body and not Leo's body/mind is because your Consciousness is maintaining that certain information/configuration of the field, so you are 'you' as a self and you don´t become suddenly Leo or a cartoon wolf. 

 

But theoretically, the whole Field is ultimately One, so actually Leo's body and thoughts are happening inside your Mind lol. 

If you die and you do not reincarnate or anything physical happens, you become literally the whole field of consciousness. All memory and information of the field should be available to you. 

 

That´s how I see it. Sounds too crazy? 

Edited June 30 by Javfly33

[Leo Gura]

Death is Infinity, Omniscience.

Edited June 30 by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Death is Infinity, Omniscience.

🤯So are you saying yes? 

[Rafael Thundercat]

20 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

We all seem lately to agree that we are not inside a physical reality

No, I am inside a physical reality, you as far as my direct experience shows is only a pixalated picture of a guy with a white mark in his forehead and next to it I keep reading scribbilings.

 

20 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

If you die and you do not reincarnate or anything physical happens, you become literally the whole field of consciousness. All memory and information of the field should be available to you. 

Nothing becomes available to you since there no more "you", if the snow ball melts , the snow ball cant grab any piece of more ice since is not more rolling down the mountain, Who are "you" without a sense of selfhood? When you was born, or when you think you were born, you recived a name, you didnt knew your name when you was born, you dont even remember to see your moms face, but you may assume her face was the first thing you saw when you came out from her womb. Consciouness is powerfull enogth in imagination that is able to summon up any face, infinite facial instantiations, one of that is the face of your mother, you dont remember how you had created your mother but you did it, and when suddenly you took yourself as being a individual, but if you observe you dont rememeber when you started considering yourself a individual. You put a cat in front of a mirror and the cat is afraid of the other cat in the mirror, it cant understand that is himself, but you, one day looked in the mirror and did the magic trick of recognizing that face as yours, yes, you created your own face to, and keep creating the same face again and again to give an impression that you are a continuous being, a human you say, but human is also a name you head from some other. 

[Yimpa]

49 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

🤯So are you saying yes? 

Sorry, he’s not a fan of your Elden Ring 

 

Edited July 1 by Yimpa

[Javfly33]

15 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

No, I am inside a physical reality, you as far as my direct experience shows is only a pixalated picture of a guy with a white mark in his forehead and next to it I keep reading scribbilings.

 

 @Rafael Thundercat Seems someone does not want to Awaken . 

[Someone here]

@Javfly33 good inquiry . But it seems to me so lofty and "woo woo"..like these terms you are talking about are ungrounded and abstract . you need to define your terms first and clarify what the hell are you talking about .

For example the usage of words like "Mind " and "Field " .like what does that Even mean ?

[Water by the River]

Directly & permanently into Infinite Omniscient Godhead? Pretty much all OBEler abd NDEler say no.

It depends on the individual Karma (soul-propensities) where the soul manifests again (out of which these two karmic propensities/traits are most important: wisdom/awakening and compassion/love). Straight to the Infinite Godhead on a prolonged basis would be a bit, um, jumpy and discontinuous. For a short intermezzo (maybe) yes (for some), and then back into manifestation/appearance in a variety of subtle/astral realms/Bardo, and after rejuvenation into denser/physical realms.

On the details (how long in the Bardo before denser/physical realms) the reports vary with the individual & tradition. Which is to be expected, since there are an Infinity of realms, and everbody ends up where there is harmony/resonance/Karma.

Ziewe:

https://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Life_after_death_-_a_description_of_the_afterlife.html

And Visser, also interesting:

https://www.integralworld.net/visser-ss-05.html

And all of course imagined& illusion& mere appearance... exactly like "real life" and everything else 

 

Selling dreams after dreams after dreams within dreams, being always at the beginning and exploring the Vistas of Infinity imagined by

the River

 

 

[James123]

@Javfly33 just go to sleep. That's enough. 

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Javfly33 

For example the usage of words like "Mind " and "Field " .like what does that Even mean ?

Field and Mind are interchangeable and is is all that it exists in reality as physical manifestation.

For example, your chair is Mind/Field. My laptop screen is also Mind/Field. 

 

1 hour ago, Water by the River said:

Directly & permanently into Infinite Omniscient Godhead? Pretty much all OBEler abd NDEler say no.

 

My experience say Yes (as a possibility, not as a proof of course), probably those people that wrote about  OBEler abd NDEler weren´t doing the work of Liberation.

Think about this: Whoever explored OBEler abd NDEler , they couldn´t be actually that interested in clarity of consciousness and complete awakening, but obviously more dreaming. 

 

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On the details (how long in the Bardo before denser/physical realms) the reports vary with the individual & tradition. Which is to be expected, since there are an Infinity of realms, and everbody ends up where there is harmony/resonance/Karma.

Selling dreams after dreams after dreams within dreams, being always at the beginning and exploring the Vistas of Infinity imagined by

the River

In my intuition, the manifestation happens only because a certain work has to be done. The manifestation ends when all the work is done.

Why are you dreaming right now? You must know why. @Water by the River 

 

[Water by the River]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

My experience say Yes (as a possibility, not as a proof of course), probably those people that wrote about  OBEler abd NDEler weren´t doing the work of Liberation.

 

Jürgen Ziewe meditated for 50 years, and legit Enlightenment (book 10 minute moment).

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Why are you dreaming right now? @Water by the River 

Why not?

[Purple Man]

5 hours ago, Water by the River said:

Directly & permanently into Infinite Omniscient Godhead? Pretty much all OBEler abd NDEler say no.

It depends on the individual Karma (soul-propensities) where the soul manifests again (out of which these two karmic propensities/traits are most important: wisdom/awakening and compassion/love). Straight to the Infinite Godhead on a prolonged basis would be a bit, um, jumpy and discontinuous. For a short intermezzo (maybe) yes (for some), and then back into manifestation/appearance in a variety of subtle/astral realms/Bardo, and after rejuvenation into denser/physical realms.

On the details (how long in the Bardo before denser/physical realms) the reports vary with the individual & tradition. Which is to be expected, since there are an Infinity of realms, and everbody ends up where there is harmony/resonance/Karma.

 

 

 

I have read some cases of NDE´s, mystical raptures or even 5 MeO´s direct or almost direct jumps into a Godhead perspective (which is a weird thing to say, since regardless of the scope of the individual body-mind perspective, it´s always the Godhead´s perspective, the same Godhead which emanates, hosts and perceives either every individual perspective at a time or the sum of them all at once).

Anyway, and although the thread opener question is so important and interesting (¡buenas tardes desde Galicia, Javfly!), the most important issue is the comprehension that there is one Absolute, and even accessing the whole Indra´s Net point of view would not improve or change the nature of our real Self, again, creating that Indra´s Net or Its individual perceptions  into existence by the very act of emanating and perceving them. For what he´s been written, I am sure he knows this even better than myself.

 

Edited July 2 by Purple Man

[Water by the River]

24 minutes ago, Purple Man said:

the most important issue is the comprehension that there is one Absolute, and even accessing the whole Indra´s Net point of view would not improve or change the nature of our real Self, again, creating that Indra´s Net or Its individual perceptions  into existence by the very act of emanating and perceving them. For what he´s been written, I am sure he knows this even better than myself.

 

Yes.

[Breakingthewall]

45 minutes ago, Purple Man said:

the most important issue is the comprehension that there is one Absolute,

The thing is not the understanding that reality is ultimately absolute, It is doing that the absolute, which really is you, open and manifest its essence. This is the difficult art, where the mind has to be totally clean. It is a manifestation that occurs at a given moment, at least in my experience. but of course....not right now, so I doubt. it is this,? is it the other? Thinking is useless, what is useful is to polish oneself until it is transparent so that this manifestation is possible.

For me one thing is obvious: for that you have to dare with the big black hole. Stop any content, any rest of humanity, of meaning, of "something", truly be the absolute total emptiness, and open yourself to it. It's quite intimidating. then, the heart of infinity opens. is this enlightenment? I think so, but who knows

Edited July 2 by Breakingthewall

[Purple Man]

38 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The thing is not the understanding that reality is ultimately absolute, It is doing that the absolute, which really is you, open and manifest its essence. This is the difficult art, where the mind has to be totally clean. It is a manifestation that occurs at a given moment, at least in my experience. but of course....not right now, so I doubt. it is this,? is it the other? Thinking is useless, what is useful is to polish oneself until it is transparent so that this manifestation is possible.

For me one thing is obvious: for that you have to dare with the big black hole. Stop any content, any rest of humanity, of meaning, of "something", truly be the absolute total emptiness, and open yourself to it. It's quite intimidating. then, the heart of infinity opens. is this enlightenment? I think so, but who knows

So true, both the "artistic" side of manifestation (the more my identity is settled as the Absolute, the more the relative becomes Art, a means of expression in space/time, with vibratory energy as the dough) and also the need of the fall of fixed patterns of old individuality to gather some freedom in this game.

[UnbornTao]

This is a mere intellectual question that is worthless.

What will extrapolation get us?

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

ungrounded and abstract. you need to define your terms first and clarify what the hell are you talking about .

For example the usage of words like "Mind " and "Field " .like what does that Even mean ?

Sensible questions.

Edited July 2 by UnbornTao

[Javfly33]

19 hours ago, Water by the River said:

Jürgen Ziewe meditated for 50 years, and legit Enlightenment (book 10 minute moment).

Why not?

Ok. Ill check It out.

Why not? Well, im not saying you shouldnt dream. But if you do not know why and you dont know how to dissolve you clearly ain't completely Awake. 

 

14 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

This is a mere intellectual question that is worthless.

What will extrapolation get us?

Sensible questions.

Well, thank you for the passive agressive response i Guess. Always a delight from the moderators of the forum. ..

[UnbornTao]

@Javfly33 Standing on many assumptions isn't true questioning. Where are you coming from? 

We could start by asking what is life or what is a body, for example.

Edited July 5 by UnbornTao

[An young being]

Humans can do that. Just wait for a few million years.

[Javfly33]

28 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

@Javfly33

Where are you coming from when asking such a question? 

If this and that are true, then can X be true? A question that stands on abstraction and so much assumptions may better be thought of as a way to validate one's preconceptions or to get entertained.

So, for example, we could start by asking what is life, a body, etc.

Still projecting angryiness or frustration. Maybe find a Boxing club to get the stress out instead with our Beloved users of the forum such as Myself? 👄