Solipsism Proof

[Will1125]

Its funny because I had a lot of conversations with dozens of religious recently and I talked to them about solipsism and they of course told me its totally false and then they told me... 

"But maybe if Solipsism is from God’s perspective. If you think about it a certain way, God is all that actually exists and everything is a figment of God’s imagination. That is the only way that I can see Solipsism work"

And then I thought "then Wonder who is God?" 😁

Edited June 28 by Will1125

[Someone here]

Amazing. 

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Will1125 said:

Its funny because I had a lot of conversations with dozens of religious recently and I talked to them about solipsism and they of course told me its totally false and then they told me... 

"But maybe if Solipsism is from God’s perspective. If you think about it a certain way, God is all that actually exists and everything is a figment of God’s imagination. That is the only way that I can see Solipsism work"

And then I thought "then Wonder who is God?" 😁

Have you even wonder, how can the one who ask these so called questions can be real?

[Will1125]

@James123 what is reality?

[James123]

Just now, Will1125 said:

@James123 what is reality?

I have no idea. 

[James123]

Just now, James123 said:

I have no idea. 

Moreover, i have no idea what is an i.

[Will1125]

@James123 I like the words "i am reality" for me that is the ultimate self realisation

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Will1125 said:

@James123 I like the words "i am reality" for me that is the ultimate self realisation

Hoe do you even know that there is such thing as self? Who told or teach you? Imo, self is just a word, and any word is an illusion. Because, it can be toughed and learn. Truth has nothing to with mind and nor understanding. 

[Breakingthewall]

A logical reflection would be to think that if you are reality and you are infinite, you cannot be alone, since alone is a limit and infinity has no limit. So, you cannot encompass yourself, it is impossible because you have no end, so you will see yourself reflected in infinite versions of yourself infinite times. You may think that it is always you, but it is not like that, they are parts of you that you do not encompass, since you are unreachable, so they really are others.

[Javfly33]

On 28/06/2024 at 8:43 PM, James123 said:

I have no idea. 

 

On 28/06/2024 at 8:44 PM, James123 said:

Moreover, i have no idea what is an i.

 

On 28/06/2024 at 8:53 PM, James123 said:

Hoe do you even know that there is such thing as self? Who told or teach you? Imo, self is just a word, and any word is an illusion. Because, it can be toughed and learn. Truth has nothing to with mind and nor understanding. 

Amazing lol

[Javfly33]

This cures solipsism ...

Surrender to the creation so much that you dissolve completely, become pure nothing, when you completely dissolve, all of reality can enter you. You will laugh of solipsism. Creation is big, is infinite, and the human body can receive it. You just have to know how to open up. 

 

That´s why progress in this work is slow. Because opening up to God from a small human body, is no joke. But you get all of reality, any price you pay for it is small. All the work we are doing is completely worth it, I guarantee you. 

Edited June 29 by Javfly33

[CoolDreamThanks]

I remember reading a book Solipsism: The Ultimate Empirical Theory of Human Existence 

it’s written by a professor who teaches philosophy at washington university. 
 

he basically asked and compiled oponions and arguments for and against solipsism from various philosophers. 
 

his conclusion was: not a single argument against solipsism is strong and he is almost certain that solipsism is true. 
 

unfortunately, he also concluded that even if it’s true, it doesnt really matter. Ups.  
 

Edited June 30 by CoolDreamThanks

[vibv]

On 28.6.2024 at 8:35 PM, Will1125 said:

Its funny because I had a lot of conversations with dozens of religious recently and I talked to them about solipsism and they of course told me its totally false and then they told me... 

"But maybe if Solipsism is from God’s perspective. If you think about it a certain way, God is all that actually exists and everything is a figment of God’s imagination. That is the only way that I can see Solipsism work"

And then I thought "then Wonder who is God?" 😁

That proves absolutely nothing.

[Ishanga]

On 6/28/2024 at 2:35 PM, Will1125 said:

Its funny because I had a lot of conversations with dozens of religious recently and I talked to them about solipsism and they of course told me its totally false and then they told me... 

"But maybe if Solipsism is from God’s perspective. If you think about it a certain way, God is all that actually exists and everything is a figment of God’s imagination. That is the only way that I can see Solipsism work"

And then I thought "then Wonder who is God?" 😁

This again references different Levels of Reality and Understanding/Perception and Awareness.. On the Absolute or God Level there is only that, within that contains All Possibility, but no individuality is there directly, but Potential is there within Absolute/God level, but when You filter it down to our level here on Earth, there is many "form" of Life (Life=God/Absolute), with Life being the basic foundation of it all, but thru manifestation/creation many "Form" arise from this foundation, so on this level there is no Solipsism, but lots of diversity of Life and forms, for us as Humans we have exclusive subjective Experience, all Experience is within one place, within You, but You can Experience Everything as a Part of Yourself, that give You a God/Absolute Experience, but that is Subjective, Objectively on this level there are many, in the God/Absolute level there is only ONE!

[Breakingthewall]

Solipsism is absolutely impossible and it is very easy to prove it. existence is infinite, without a doubt. If you are talking to your father, is it your father imaginary? Let's say yes.

In the infinity of existence there will be, without any possibility against it, the fact that existence is your father speaking to an "imaginary" you at some point. Since time is a mental construct made of limits, and infinity is unlimited, that moment is the moment you are talking to your imaginary/real father. in short: infinity. It seems that people understand infinity as limited

[Javfly33]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Solipsism is absolutely impossible and it is very easy to prove it. existence is infinite, without a doubt. If you are talking to your father, is it your father imaginary? Let's say yes.

In the infinity of existence there will be, without any possibility against it, the fact that existence is your father speaking to an "imaginary" you at some point. Since time is a mental construct made of limits, and infinity is unlimited, that moment is the moment you are talking to your imaginary/real father. in short: infinity. It seems that people understand infinity as limited

Nice, people dont get reality is really Unlimited. Seriously no limits.

Not because reality has some magic Power, simply because It is being held nowhere, we are in reality. Reality has no floor, is pure void, the possibilties are limitless. What could possibly limit reality?

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Nice, people dont get reality is really Unlimited. Seriously no limits.

Not because reality has some magic Power, simply because It is being held nowhere, we are in reality. Reality has no floor, is pure void, the possibilties are limitless. What could possibly limit reality?

Exactly, infinity is inevitable. and I would say that it is quite obvious that it cannot be understood. Can you understand that this exact moment will be repeated infinite times, and has already been repeated infinite times, but also there will be infinitely different moments repeated infinite times? No. and that's it, relax. It is not understandable, the only understanding is that it is absolutely nothing, it is reality and its content is indifferent and at the same time absolutely relevant. and what I just said makes no sense, since infinity makes no sense 

the solipsism that is real and absolutely inevitable is that I am reality and there is no "other" reality. In me, as reality, everything exists, but that does not mean that I cannot unfold myself infinitely. reality is always the "same." in quotes, because reality is nothing, it is the infinite horizon of possibilities that has no limit, so yes, you are me and I am you, and we are both empty holograms that appear in reality, and at the same time we are filled with the substance of infinity, which is complete infinity.

Edited June 30 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

we are in reality.

 We are.......in reality..... is dualistic. No such thing, ultimately. There's no we that's in reality. It's just reality and that's even saying too much because there's really no reality other than what appears and appearances aren't real, ultimately. If something appears it can disappears. What remains, just is. Emptiness is not reality. 

Now for all you naysayers, there is a reality but only within the dream, a dream that's not really happening. 

[Javfly33]

57 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 We are.......in reality..... is dualistic. No such thing, ultimately. There's no we that's in reality. It's just reality and that's even saying too much because there's really no reality other than what appears and appearances aren't real, ultimately. If something appears it can disappears. What remains, just is. Emptiness is not reality. 

Now for all you naysayers, there is a reality but only within the dream, a dream that's not really happening. 

For the sake of words.

As @Breakingthewall likes to put his examples, lets see if the sinaloa cartel kidnaps you because they thought you stole a brick of dope, and they put you in a hole for 7 days and throw hungry rats lets see if there is "no reality" really. 

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

For the sake of words.

As @Breakingthewall likes to put his examples, lets see if the sinaloa cartel kidnaps you because they thought you stole a brick of dope, and they put you in a hole for 7 days and throw hungry rats lets see if there is "no reality" really. 

😅😅 Reality is deep