50 mg of zinc is toxic

[integral]

I saw in one of Leo’s videos on detox that he was taking a 50 mg zinc capsule every three days.

Zinc is highly toxic in the body when you exceed your bodies allowed threshold.

I’m not speaking about toxicity as an afterthought I mean it will directly affect your conscious state of mind immediately and your sleep quality and quality of life. Excessive zinc in the body immediately within the minute affects your entire system and capacity to function

50 mg of a standard zinc capsule is completely toxic and should be avoided at all cost

normally excessive zinc results in tension within your entire body and mind but Counterintuitively if you keep taking the zinc your body will adapt in a way where the symptoms reverse and you have low energy and experience a very major slow down.

in the male body the only realistic way to eliminate zinc is through ejaculation. but if you’re loaded up to high you cannot eliminate it all with one session.

You need trace amounts 1mg or less of zinc from supplement form to get your adequate amounts, the recommendations are dead wrong that you find on the Internet.

your body is not using over 5 mg of zinc a day, These recommendations are ridiculous and hazardous, The biggest problem is that it’s a cumulative daily so you keep accumulating within your body and you just can’t eliminate it.

bonus if you ever taken a zinc supplement you’ll know that the next day you’ll wake up with a insane erection and that’s your body trying to tell you to eliminate it.

Edited June 28 by integral

[PsychedelicEagle]

Can you please share the data substantiating this fact? Why is the 15-30mg recommended daily supplemental dose incorrect?

[integral]

3 hours ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

Can you please share the data substantiating this fact? Why is the 15-30mg recommended daily supplemental dose incorrect?

The point is the data is wrong or how they’re using data to point to things is wrong and doesn’t represent health. Asking for data when that way of thinking doesn’t work in practice makes no sense.

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[mmKay]

when you chelate heavy metals you take 50mg zinc per day

Quote :

"Zinc (glycinate, orotate, picolinate, citrate, or carnosine) once per day at 50 mg elemental zinc, with an adequate amount of food. Often taken best at night with dinner, or just before bed. Some people are sensitive to zinc and need to build up their dose slowly.

People who are sensitive to supplements may need to trial different forms and sources to find the ones best tolerated.

There are some things that mercury does to every human. It interferes with mineral transport. That means that certain minerals are not getting properly absorbed, not getting transported to where they are needed, and are lost readily.

In particular, mercury poisoned people are deficient in magnesium and zinc. These two minerals are desperately needed by enzymes"

 

[PsychedelicEagle]

2 hours ago, integral said:

Asking for data when that way of thinking doesn’t work in practice makes no sense.

Okay, I'm open to this possibility, but then please elaborate on it without using data, or in any other way that makes sense. I wanna learn more.

I have been taking Zinc supplements at 20mg daily for the last months as I was not getting enough from my diet (I eat vegan most of the time).

[Carl-Richard]

50 minutes ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

Okay, I'm open to this possibility, but then please elaborate on it without using data, or in any other way that makes sense. I wanna learn more.

It's probably based on feels. I take 25 mg zinc capsule every day and I feel fine.

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[integral]

@Carl-Richard @PsychedelicEagle

Most of the zinc is being eliminated through faeces, kidneys and ejaculation. Having to constantly work to eliminate it will eventually slow down your system , When the body struggles to eliminated later in life your primary way will be ejaculation.

people that have issues eliminating it with age or sickness will eventually reach a problem where they’re overdosing like crazy and these General recommendations make no sense at all.

Edited June 28 by integral

[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, integral said:

@Carl-Richard @PsychedelicEagle

Most of the zinc is being eliminated through faeces, kidneys and ejaculation. Having to constantly work to eliminate it will eventually slow down your system , When the body struggles to eliminated later in life your primary way will be ejaculation.

people that have issues eliminating it with age or sickness will eventually reach a problem where they’re overdosing like crazy and these General recommendations make no sense at all.

How are you so convinced that 1 mg is sufficient?

[integral]

43 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

How are you so convinced that 1 mg is sufficient?

because I take even less than that and it maxes out my zinc levels. Zinc levels are measured by monitoring sexual energy, mental activity, physical markers, sleep experience, basically most parts of human experience can be tracked and you could see how a substance is affecting them. Each facet changes and creates a different experience That can be noted/tracked

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[Carl-Richard]

14 minutes ago, integral said:

because I take even less than that and it maxes out my zinc levels. Zinc levels are measured by monitoring sexual energy, mental activity, physical markers, sleep experience, basically most parts of human experience can be tracked and you could see how a substance is affecting them. Each facet changes and creates a different experience That can be noted/tracked

You're maxing out your feels. You don't know what your actual Zinc levels are.

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[integral]

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're maxing out your feels. You have no idea what your actual Zinc levels are.

Being high on zinc generally tells you how high you are, same as if you’re high on LSD you know based on how much you took, if you blindly take 100 mg you’ll know from experience that the amount in your system is 100 mg.

If one metric is that your erections are of a specific strenght then you know that your zinc level is at specific strength or an adequate level. taking more would be counterproductive because you already maxing, why would you need more zinc if you erection is that strong?

after an ejaculation you might want to recover your zinc by taking a small amount of the supplement. or if your digestion is doing the job it’s supposed to be doing you might not need to do anything and the next day you might be at adequate levels.

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i’m not seeing how a scientific test would be better than my body telling me what the truth is. The amount I need is based on my performance levels on all these metrics that you can track.

Edited June 29 by integral

[Yimpa]

I’m a simple bean. I take this veggie pill once and get on with my day.

https://jarrow.com/products/zinc-balance-100-veggie-caps

[Carl-Richard]

16 hours ago, integral said:

Being high on zinc generally tells you how high you are, same as if you’re high on LSD you know based on how much you took, if you blindly take 100 mg you’ll know from experience that the amount in your system is 100 mg.

If one metric is that your erections are of a specific strenght then you know that your zinc level is at specific strength or an adequate level. taking more would be counterproductive because you already maxing, why would you need more zinc if you erection is that strong?

There are many things that affect how you feel and that vary from day to day which can skew your perception of these things (e.g. what and how much you've eaten, how much sun exposure you've gotten, how much you've been moving, general mood). Many of these things even literally affect your zinc levels.

This is analogous to "set and setting" with psychedelics, which as you know can produce strong dose-independent effects. And when it comes to more subtle things like supplements, especially low doses, the likelihood of misattributing some effect is probably very high.

Try this: get someone to randomly give you either a placebo pill or a real zinc pill every day, and write down how it makes you feel (e.g. on a scale from 1 to 7). Let them write down what they gave you and each time they give you a random dosage within a selected range (say 0.1-50 mg). Then after 14 days or so, compare your feelings with the dose and see if there is a statistically significant correlation. Even better: try to guess the exact dosage you were given.

Also, preferably introduce some blinding measures. For example, let them place the pill on a table so that you can take it without them being present (so there is a lesser chance of being influenced by their expressions, etc.), and of course avoid talking about the experiment with the person during the experiment (unless you somehow manage to introduce double-blinding, which is probably hard in an everyday context).

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[PsychedelicEagle]

9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Try this: get someone to randomly give you either a placebo pill or a real zinc pill every day, and write down how it makes you feel (e.g. on a scale from 1 to 7). Let them write down what they gave you and each time they give you a random dosage within a selected range (say 0.1-50 mg). Then after 14 days or so, compare your feelings with the dose and see if there is a statistically significant correlation.

Haha love this proposal.

I also find it hard to believe one can gauge their Zinc levels based off of their feels. Zinc is not like LSD that will directly affect your conscious perception. Although it might -- in this case I am not as aware or sensitive myself.

Edited June 29 by PsychedelicEagle

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

Zinc is not like LSD that will directly affect your conscious perception. Although it might -- in this case I am not as aware or sensitive myself.

It does affect your consciousness in a subtle way, but so does many other things, and it's hard to control for these things just based on your feels.