An almost complete understanding of Reality.

[Javfly33]

Some points:

 

1. The Ultimate/You = Pure Empty Unlimitation. The only Real thing that exists. (non physical existence). 
2. God/The Creation/The Dream = A dream of You, a construction of duality, an imagination, this is where You are currently stucked (the reason you have a body is because you are stucked in your imagination). 
3. All people are real. “Others” are real and have an experience, but they are literally God too. Why? Because of this: 
4. You only call them ‘others’ or see them different as you because you think this experience is something or you have an experience. But actually what is happening is that what you call your experience, is actually a piece of Memory of God, nothing else. A piece of memory of the Creation. A certain Karma.
5. Remember God/The Dream is a creation of You. 
6. Just as what you are experiencing, Other people are memories or karmic configurations of the dream. They are not real at all. 

 

Now...What is really going on? Why humanity seems such a chaos?

The different memories of the dualistic creation are entangled one with the other. For example: 

When your gf calls you very angry because you did not do x or you did y, all that is happening is God’s Unconsciousness. All that is happening is Karma. Your gf by thinking she is real and is not God, and you by getting in any way triggered or think she is really you gf and not a memory of God, you maintain the Karma = Entanglement-Not going towards Liberation. 

So, the whole process is to see this infinite game as just one big entanglement of God’s memories/karmas. When you see what is really going on, naturally you won’t take any single step more in an unconscious way. Your Being becoming free is at stake here. 

Edited June 28 by Javfly33

[Ishanga]

@Javfly33 The only problem I have with what You said is the use of the terms imagination and Dream, otherwise it sounds good.. But the question of "Why Creation", why is there this sort of Reality, how is entanglement on our part or God's part possible.  I think it is all part of an Possibility Equation, if God is All, All=Possibility then that leads to Us being here as we are, with ingrained ability to have an Ego which causes us to have a sense of Individuality and Fear, Separation from God, which is needed, otherwise without this ability no Experience is Possible hence no reality here as we normally know it...

[Keryo Koffa]

I feel the sudden urge to play devil's advocate. Just for fun though, I agree with much of what is pointed to except the expression through language

21 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

1. The Ultimate/You = Pure Empty Unlimitation. The only Real thing that exists. (non physical existence).

Only is a constrictive word, everything is real and unreal but you can navigate it and achieve greater freedom by detachment

24 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

2. God/The Creation/The Dream = A dream of You, a construction of duality, an imagination, this is where You are currently stucked (the reason you have a body is because you are stucked in your imagination). 

Stuck implies powerlessness, how do you know we're not consciously keeping ourselves unconscious for a reason beyond our awareness?

24 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

3. All people are real. “Others” are real and have an experience, but they are literally God too

How do you know for sure they have an experience, that's kind of an assumption, it could just be a superficial self-projection onto mechanical constructs like robots acting on logic and generating the impression of an experience, or like video games using background images from the skyline

24 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

4. You only call them ‘others’ or see them different as you because you think this experience is something or you have an experience. But actually what is happening is that what you call your experience, is actually a piece of Memory of God, nothing else. A piece of memory of the Creation. A certain Karma.

5. Remember God/The Dream is a creation of You.

Well then which one is it? You imply God is an independent source of all and then say its imagined by me only since only I am real and create all

32 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

3. All people are real. “Others” are real and have an experience, but they are literally God too

6. Just as what you are experiencing, Other people are memories or karmic configurations of the dream. They are not real at all. 

 

32 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Now...What is really going on? Why humanity seems such a chaos?

The different memories of the dualistic creation are entangled one with the other. For example: 

When your gf calls you very angry because you did not do x or you did y, all that is happening is God’s Unconsciousness.

Defining God might be helpful at this point, since you point at different states with the same word making different conclusions

32 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

So, the whole process is to see this infinite game as just one big entanglement of God’s memories/karmas. When you see what is really going on, naturally you won’t take any single step more in an unconscious way. Your Being becoming free is at stake here. 

What if this experience is the desired expression of God's freedom, why else would an all powerful being have it? The ego might dislike it

 

Now let me reflect and see how I understand what you point towards.

1. Beyond every partial experience, there is an Infinity of potential others. God is unlimited an unbound to any form. Within Infinity, all forms exist and any is as real and absolute as any other but as God we can navigate between them, creating various scenarios by using our creative imagination. Though "God" itself implies some kind of absoluteness, can we call God God when he is experiencing? Is God himself not each of the infinity of forms? When we point to God, we seek transcendence but when all difference dissolves, God is everything.

2. God imagines his own body and reality, others and self on various levels of actuality, imagination, and inter-projection. To know the exact "realness of any other, we would have to become fully aware of their form and content, ourselves within them internally materializing our perception of them externally.

3. Everything is real by virtue of existing within experience, what it is can be explored and expanded however.

4. An energetic formation in Infinity holding itself together and apart from the rest, using the infinite dimensions of perception to create and maintain itself and create associations and context. Past experiences create Karma, an attachment due to unfulfilled emotional needs and unconscious desires.

5. God creates me and I create the image of God within me, I am God ultimately, though the I never really has that much room by itself, yet there is a constant feedback and if we see the ego as always transient and expansive, rather than constrictive in nature, then there need not be a contradiction. There is a spectrum between me as I know myself and God, though you might say I am fully encompassed in God and yet God himself by taking on various forms expands his experience and understanding and changes also. Formlessness need not be static though whether it is is it's own discussion.

6. They are arbitrary and meaningful and pass with time, are absolute and relative, subjective and purposeless, creative and constrictive as much as expansive and timeless also. But we are not bound to them, if that's what you're pointing towards, we can liberate ourselves from the need to keep those static cyclic configurations within ourselves in the form of needs and attachments and we can move past them.

It seems to creates an experience and tightens the veil of perception to immerse himself in it, then from outside and inside the experience takes on a unique form and the higher and lower Self co-create it, the self that is consciously creating the world from without and the less aware self experiencing it from within.

Freedom is nice.

[James123]

@Javfly33 nice explanation. But, why do you even need to understand it in the first place? 

Edited June 28 by James123

[Keryo Koffa]

@James123

1 hour ago, James123 said:

why

why is the language of inquiry, an exploration of reality

1 hour ago, James123 said:

do

doing is an active process, the act of becoming

1 hour ago, James123 said:

you

you is an identity which creates such preferences

1 hour ago, James123 said:

even

implies subtle judgement and directs energies

1 hour ago, James123 said:

need

needs manifests themselves as cravings which create tendencies

1 hour ago, James123 said:

to

to is a destination which predisposes distance which creates a journey

1 hour ago, James123 said:

understand

understanding is the process of integration

1 hour ago, James123 said:

it

it is something experienced to be other, or duality

1 hour ago, James123 said:

in the first place

implies beginnings and endings creating a framework of time in which events take place

1 hour ago, James123 said:

? 

questions demand answers

 

The question answers itself

   why      do        you      even       need       to   understand   it  in the first place? 

inquiry leads identity towards desiring unity integrating duality by journey

 

But beyond that, his need to understand is fundamentally a question no different to your question of his question

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@James123

why is the language of inquiry, an exploration of reality

doing is an active process, the act of becoming

you is an identity which creates such preferences

implies subtle judgement and directs energies

needs manifests themselves as cravings which create tendencies

to is a destination which predisposes distance which creates a journey

understanding is the process of integration

it is something experienced to be other, or duality

implies beginnings and endings creating a framework of time in which events take place

questions demand answers

 

The question answers itself

   why      do        you      even       need       to   understand   it  in the first place? 

inquiry leads identity towards desiring unity integrating duality by journey

 

But beyond that, his need to understand is fundamentally a question no different to your question of his question

Whatever we say is not important, just a personal opinion. We are not important. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@James123 Everything is important and importance is important also, every part of reality is important to itself and we build bridges that make it important to other parts also, united in importance universally but in conflict locally

Personals opinions are important and ultimately the fabric of reality is made of opinions, even if they have other opinions to battle with

Edited June 28 by Keryo Koffa

[James123]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@James123 Everything is important and importance is important also, every part of reality is important to itself and we build bridges that make it important to other parts also, united in importance universally but in conflict locally

You can understand your importancy when you face with a lion in jungle. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@James123 The lion is important and I am important, we both want to survive and might get into conflict, which might make a mess. If my importance is courage, then I will learn better and acquire humility in death. If my importance is survival, I will tread carefully. Bodies age and die but souls know no death.

Edited June 28 by Keryo Koffa

[James123]

32 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@James123 The lion is important and I am important, we both want to survive and might get into conflict, which might make a mess. If my importance is courage, then I will learn better and acquire humility in death. If my importance is survival, I will tread carefully. Bodies age and die but souls know no death.

I definitely agree about the soul. However, as a body I am just a flesh meat for lion. So it does show that I am just a poor human for him, therefore not important. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@James123 "Quite literally, the "inner self" forms the body by magically transforming thoughts and emotions into physical counterparts. You grow the body. Its condition perfectly mirrors your subjective state at any given time. Using atoms and molecules, you build your body, forming basic elements into a form that you call your own."

We are infinite, yet we come from nothing. We collect experiences across lifetimes and we emerge out of environments from which we individuate, we affect it and direct our experience, we tune into and attract certain experiences based on our beliefs, needs and desires, attitudes and troubles, dreams and disappointments, passions and failures.

"If you hate illness you may bring upon yourself a succeeding life of illness, because the hate has drawn it to you. If you expand your sense of love, of health, and existence, then you are drawn in this life and in others toward those qualities; again, because they are those upon which you concentrate. A generation that hates war will not bring peace. A generation that loves peace will bring peace. To die with hatred for any cause or people, or for any reason, is a great disadvantage."

"Change of form is not destructive. The explosive energy of a storm is highly creative. Consciousness is not annihilated. A storm is part of creativity. You view it from your own perspective, and yet one individual will feel within the storm the unending cycle of creativity, and another will personify it as the work of the devil.

Through all your lives you will interpret the reality that you see in your own way, and that way will have its effect upon you, and in turn upon others. The man who literally hates, immediately sets himself up in this fashion: He prejudges the nature of reality according to his own limited understanding.

Now I am emphasizing the issue of hate in this chapter on reincarnation because its results can be so disastrous. A man who hates always believes himself justified. He never hates anything that he believes to be good. He thinks he is being just, therefore, in his hatred, but the hatred itself forms a very strong claim that will follow him throughout his lives, until he learns that only the hatred itself is the destroyer. Remember what you concentrate upon"

Edited June 28 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

On 28/6/2024 at 2:17 PM, Ishanga said:

@Javfly33 The only problem I have with what You said is the use of the terms imagination and Dream, otherwise it sounds good.. But the question of "Why Creation", why is there this sort of Reality, how is entanglement on our part or God's part possible.  I think it is all part of an Possibility Equation, if God is All, All=Possibility then that leads to Us being here as we are, with ingrained ability to have an Ego which causes us to have a sense of Individuality and Fear, Separation from God, which is needed, otherwise without this ability no Experience is Possible hence no reality here as we normally know it...

Yes, i agree!

 

On 28/6/2024 at 3:06 PM, Keryo Koffa said:

 

Stuck implies powerlessness, how do you know we're not consciously keeping ourselves unconscious for a reason beyond our awareness?

@Keryo Koffa Because consciousness is not something like a seed, that you put in the soil and forget about It and then in 1 month It grows.

Is always Now. So if you are not conscious now you are not conscious. 

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How do you know for sure they have an experience, that's kind of an assumption, it could just be a superficial self-projection onto mechanical constructs like robots acting on logic and generating the impression of an experience, or like video games using background images from the skyline

Because i do not have an experience, "others" do not have an experience neither. 

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Well then which one is it? You imply God is an independent source of all and then say its imagined by me only since only I am real and create all

Maybe i wrote It wrong.

Most of Actualized vision of God is all of reality/you. But what im saying is that God, what they call the dream, is not you, but an appearance or imagination of You

In other words, God depends on You to exist. And not the other way around.

God exists because of You. But you could exist without God/The Dream. 

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What if this experience is the desired expression of God's freedom, why else would an all powerful being have it? The ego might dislike it

In the sense, There is no ego actually . Ego is the construction due to the Real Self ignorance. 

The whole process of Life is an Evolution of your being. From Dreaming to Awakening. From falsehood to Truth. 

 

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Freedom is nice.

 Very nice

Is the whole point why we are here.

On 28/6/2024 at 8:25 PM, James123 said:

@Javfly33 nice explanation. But, why do you even need to understand it in the first place? 

Why not ? 😝

 

On 28/6/2024 at 8:25 PM, James123 said:

@Javfly33

 

Edited June 30 by Javfly33

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

consciousness is not something like a seed, that you put in the soil and forget about It and then in 1 month It grows.

Is always Now. So if you are not conscious now you are not conscious. 

Tell that to the Subconscious that continuously saves and processes information outside of conscious experience, like Leo once said in his "Elephant Rider" metaphor. There's a dimension that explains how it consistently and easily correlates and brings information in and out of conscious experience. Maybe one can be fully conscious of it, but I am not yet aware, else I'd access it to go astral travel and be a super genius.

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Most of Actualized vision of God is all of reality/you. But what im saying is that God, what they call the dream, is not you, but an appearance or imagination of You

In other words, God depends on You to exist. And not the other way around.

God exists because of You. But you could exist without God/The Dream. 

That makes sense, it all points to a singularity. But its a shapeshifter so we use various terminology to describe its various states.

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

In the sense, There is no ego actually . Ego is the construction due to the Real Self ignorance. 

The whole process of Life is an Evolution of your being. From Dreaming to Awakening. From falsehood to Truth. 

the prodigal son

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Why not ? 😝

I genuinely believe this to be the most powerful question that drives all of existence 

[Javfly33]

4 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

 

I genuinely believe this to be the most powerful question that drives all of existence 

Hahaha. Lately i talked with a friend and he said to me that he head a theory on internet of why God had created duality and was because God had an idea that it wanted to experiment a state where it would not feel completely good and united. And that from that thought whole of Creation started.

Obviously is a human idea very dumb and simple but is curious when he told me 

[Keryo Koffa]

42 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Hahaha. Lately i talked with a friend and he said to me that he head a theory on internet of why God had created duality and was because God had an idea that it wanted to experiment a state where it would not feel completely good and united. And that from that thought whole of Creation started.

Obviously is a human idea very dumb and simple but is curious when he told me 

Well, we're here and God is supposedly the highest source responsible for everything, so...

[Yimpa]

…almost, but not quite there yet