Guys Need To Be Immune To Girls's Tactics

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, integral said:

From the beginning you’re projecting this concept that everyone is trying to suppress you. Some People will hate on some things. For some reason you were never able to separate what I’m saying from hate you’re stuck in this mindset that I’m trying to suppress you. It’s a libertarianism trap. They think maximizing freedom has no consequences. If you give everyone freedom to do whatever they want then someone is gonna come over and kill you because now there’s no consequences. 

Please stick to the issue at hand. I never said to let people do whatever they want. Yes, I'll give you that that you never mentioned the word hate; that's my doing. I'm simply stating opinions and beliefs not suggesting that anyone is trying to suppress me. I didn't take this convo personally. It's a forum and I'm discussing. I don't even wear yoga pants and I don't dress scantily not even when I'm working. Don't need to.

[bambi]

1 minute ago, integral said:

Why not walk around naked? Clothing is a cultural limitation brainwashing us we should free ourselves from all mental limitations

Yeah I agree and think about this sometimes. We are so conditioned around sexuality that naked bodies is basically like porno instantly. I think its the element of it being taboo and exciting that makes nudism shocking to us.

Clothing does provide a valuable function in terms of survival utiltiy. But we are so sexually repressed and controlled/inculcated from an early age in this regard, we pretty fucked

I personally naturally have always dressed quite modestly, but some of my gym bro friends and girl friends who love attention dress mch more provocative

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, integral said:

Why not walk around naked? Clothing is a cultural limitation brainwashing us we should free ourselves from all mental limitations

You have strayed from the issue at hand. No need to walk around naked to have self-expression in clothing. Yoga pants are pants. They are fitting. That's it. Anything else is thought. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, bambi said:

but some of my gym bro friends and girl friends who love attention dress mch more provocative

Why is always that one is seeking attention who dresses provocatively. That's not necessarily the case. They might just enjoy dressing that way just like how they might prefer apples to oranges. Personal choice. 

[bambi]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why is always that one is seeking attention who dresses provocatively. That's not necessarily the case. They might just enjoy dressing that way just like how they might prefer apples to oranges. Personal choice. 

In my estimation the amount of people who dress provactively and highly sexualised for the sheer art without the care of attention they get is minimal. Im sure they exist but its a tiny minority

The vast majority of people who dress provocatively are doing it for precisely this reason lol

Its a natural human tendency to want to impress and attact the opposite sex, not sure why youd struggle akcnowledging that. Some of my guy friends even like the male attention lol! and theyre straight

You seem like such a beaten puppy Arabia, what has happened in your life to be so sensitive and defensive lol!

Edited June 28 by bambi

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, bambi said:

In my estimation the amount of people who dress provactively and highly sexualised for the sheer art without the care of attention they get is minimal. Im sure they exist but its a tiny minority

The vast majority of people who dress provocatively are doing it for precisely this reason lol

Its a natural human tendency to want to impress and attact the opposite sex, not sure why youd struggle akcnowledging that

I'm not struggling to acknowledge anything. We tend to project, and because we notice people that dresses provocatively, we assume they're seeking attention. I assume people with green hair are seeking attention, do I say it or project it, no because I'm aware that's just my mind assuming and may not be the case and I leave it at that.

This is why guys tend to want to call at every provocatively dressed woman because they assume she's seeking attention when she could just enjoy dressing that way because it makes her feel a certain way.

[bambi]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not struggling to acknowledge anything. We tend to project, and because we notice people that dresses provocatively, we assume they're seeking attention. I assume people with green hair are seeking attention, do I say it or project it, no because I'm aware that's just my mind assuming and may not be the case and I leave it at that.

This is why guys tend to want to call at every provocatively dressed woman because they assume she's seeking attention when she could just enjoy dressing that way because it makes her feel a certain way.

No your incredibly defensive and overly sensitive around these topics, you are struggling to acknowledge this

All you talk about is guys vs women, your mind is sick in this regard lol, my post was gender agnostic, but you interpreted it in the worst way possible to  this toxic paradigm

Its clearly the case both sexes dress provactively to compete intra-sexually or attract attention or more from the opposite sex

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, bambi said:

No your incredibly defensive and overly sensitive around these topics, you are struggling to acknowledge this

All you talk about is guys vs women, your mind is sick in this regard lol, my post was gender agnostic, but you interpreted it in the worst way possible to  this toxic paradigm

Its clearly the case both sexes dress provactively to compete intra-sexually or attract attention or more from the opposite sex

how does a man provocatively dress to attract women. I'm not being defensive, I'm opening up your minds to other possibilities. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, bambi said:

All you talk about is guys vs women, your mind is sick in this regard lol

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you speaking about this thread in particular or the forum in general.

[bambi]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

how does a man provocatively dress to attract women. I'm not being defensive, I'm opening up your minds to other possibilities. 

 

You arent opening anyones mind to anything, this is total self-delusion you couldnt open a can of tuna with a bloody can opener!

Men wear tight clothes, vests, suits and all manner of clothing to get attention! They style there hair, men do botox and fillers these dyas and pluck their eyebrows. What planet are you living in Arabia!!

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you speaking about this thread in particular or the forum in general.

I have barely interacted with you on these forums, but all of your posts scream sexual trauma or abuse, your either a virgin or feel abused/shamed/judged by men, it screams from all your posts!

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, bambi said:

You arent opening anyones mind to anything, this is total self-delusion you couldnt open a can of tuna with a bloody can opener!

Men wear tight clothes, vests, suits and all manner of clothing to get attention! They style there hair, men do botox and fillers these dyas and pluck their eyebrows. What planet are you living in Arabia!!

how is a suit and vest, styling hair doing Botox and plucking eyebrows provocatively dressed. The pastor wears a suit is he provocatively dressed. The librarian in a long dress and covered from the neck down may pluck her eyebrows because they are too bushy, how is that provocatively dressed. 

 

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

how is a suit and vest, styling hair doing Botox and plucking eyebrows provocatively dressed. The pastor wears a suit is he provocatively dressed. The librarian in a long dress and covered from the neck down may pluck her eyebrows because they are too bushy, how is that provocatively dressed. 

 

To me provocative dressing is dressing in a way to attract attention on any level vs dressing purely for comfort and utility

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, bambi said:

I have barely interacted with you on these forums, but all of your posts scream sexual trauma or abuse, your either a virgin or feel abused/shamed/judged by men, it screams from all your posts!

Sweetheart, all you do is attack me all the time and i never attacked back once. Whose the one that seems traumatized. I'm barely stating my opinions in herd and all i get from you constantly are attacks, with not once me attacking back. How does what I'm saying here makes me seem abused. I'm not sure, but no i haven't been abused nor do I have any sexual trauma. It's ok though, go ahead and attack, doesn't phase me. I've recognized where that cones from and I've seen no need to attack back.

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Sweetheart, all you do is attack me all the time and i never attacked back once. Whose the one that seems traumatized. I'm barely stating my opinions in herd and all i get from you constantly are attacks, with not once me attacking back. How does what I'm saying here makes me seem abused. I'm not sure, but no i haven't been abused nor do I have any sexual trauma. It's ok though, go ahead and attack, doesn't phase me. I've recognized where that cones from and I've seen no need to attack back.

Because its obvious and it makes it impossible to engage with you on any reasonable level

So we either sit here swimming in a pool of bullshit, or address the issue lol

 

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, bambi said:

To me provocative dressing is dressing in a way to attract attention on any level vs dressing purely for comfort and utility

The dictionary describes "provocative dressing" as: Quote "Intended to make someone feel sexual desire". I'm not sure how a suit and vest accomplishes this. Anyway, since you're in attack mode, I'll just exit this conversation and leave you to marinate in your own attacks and let you bask in that release of tension you just had to let go on me as per usual in your communications with me. 

[NoSelfSelf]

Im no saint,but my advice is to lower the tone, give best shot of giving best point of view so other person can understand it fully.

@bambi @Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, bambi said:

Because its obvious and it makes it impossible to engage with you on any reasonable level

So we either sit here swimming in a pool of bullshit, or address the issue lol

 

Anyone with any reasonable sense who looks back at the whole conversation can see that I wasn't being provocative, attacking, judgemental not criticizing. Only making assumptions, stating opinions and expressing how I felt about the topic, in very rational, respectful ways. Never once did I attack, nor mace judgements only observations and personal opinions. Goodbye

[bambi]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The dictionary describes "provocative dressing" as: Quote "Intended to make someone feel sexual desire". I'm not sure how a suit and vest accomplishes this. Anyway, since you're in attack mode, I'll just exit this conversation and leave you to marinate in your own attacks and let you bask in that release of tension you just had to let go on me as per usual in your communications with me. 

Detailed Analysis of the Meaning of Provocative Dressing

1. Definition and General Understanding: Provocative dressing refers to clothing choices that are designed to attract attention, elicit a reaction, or provoke thought and emotion. This type of dressing often involves elements that are considered daring, bold, or sexually suggestive. It is characterized by clothing that may reveal more skin, be form-fitting, or include designs that draw attention to certain parts of the body.

2. Historical and Cultural Context: Provocative dressing has different connotations and acceptability levels across cultures and historical periods. What is considered provocative in one culture or era might be seen as conservative or normal in another.

Historical Context: In the 1920s, flapper dresses with higher hemlines were seen as provocative. In the 1960s, the miniskirt was a symbol of sexual liberation.

Cultural Context: In some Middle Eastern cultures, showing skin or wearing tight clothing is highly provocative, whereas in many Western cultures, similar styles are mainstream.

3. Psychological and Social Implications: Provocative dressing can have various psychological and social implications for both the wearer and the observer.

Self-Expression: For many, provocative dressing is a form of self-expression and empowerment. It can signify confidence, freedom, and individuality.

Social Reactions: It can elicit a wide range of reactions, from admiration and attraction to criticism and disapproval. These reactions are often influenced by societal norms and individual beliefs.

4. Gender and Provocative Dressing: The perception and impact of provocative dressing are often gendered.

Women: Women’s provocative dressing is frequently linked to sexuality and empowerment but also to objectification and judgment.

Men: While less common, provocative dressing for men (e.g., tight clothing, revealing outfits) also exists and can challenge traditional gender norms and masculinity.

5. Media and Popular Culture: Media and popular culture play significant roles in shaping and reflecting the concept of provocative dressing.

Fashion Industry: Designers and brands often push boundaries with provocative designs, influencing trends and public perception.

Entertainment: Celebrities and influencers frequently use provocative dressing to make statements, garner attention, or express their personal style.

6. Ethical and Social Debates: Provocative dressing is often at the center of ethical and social debates regarding freedom of expression, body autonomy, and societal norms.

Freedom of Expression: Advocates argue that individuals should have the freedom to dress as they wish without fear of judgment or harassment.

Social Responsibility: Critics might argue that certain styles are inappropriate for specific contexts (e.g., professional settings) or can perpetuate harmful stereotypes.

7. Impact on Personal and Professional Life: The way someone dresses can significantly impact their personal and professional interactions and opportunities.

Personal Life: Provocative dressing can affect one’s social relationships, dating life, and self-esteem.

Professional Life: It can influence workplace dynamics, perceptions of professionalism, and career advancement opportunities.

8. Intersection with Feminism: Provocative dressing intersects with feminist ideologies in complex ways.

Empowerment vs. Objectification: Feminists are divided on whether provocative dressing empowers women by reclaiming their bodies or reinforces objectification by conforming to male gaze standards.

Choice and Autonomy: The core feminist argument is about choice and autonomy, emphasizing that women should have the right to choose how they dress without societal or patriarchal constraints.

Conclusion:

Provocative dressing is a multifaceted concept influenced by historical, cultural, psychological, and social factors. It serves as a powerful tool for self-expression and empowerment but also raises important questions about societal norms, gender dynamics, and ethical considerations. The interpretation and impact of provocative dressing vary widely, reflecting the complex interplay between individual agency and collective values.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Im no saint,but my advice is to lower the tone, give best shot of giving best point of view so other person can understand it fully.

@bambi @Princess Arabia

I never once attacked. I'll leave this thread now as he seems to often times come where I'm at to throw personal punches. Happens more than enough times where it's starting to seem personal and for no doing of mine. 

Edited June 28 by Princess Arabia