I'm falling into black pill ideology (need help to reverse it)

[Hardkill]

52 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The bottomline is that you will never know what you are capable of until you give it your best shot, and you make use of all the expertise, methods, and tools that worldclass experts offer.

You guys want some kind of guarantees and promises of success, but success doesn't work like that. You know who succeeds? People who take risks. The risk is work for no reward. That's what investment is. And no investor wins on all his bets.

You have to get comfortable with lots of effort and failure.

It's like you guys want to say to me: "Leo, I will only do effort if you promise me success." And my response is, then you have already failed at life and there's no helping you.

But isn't the idea that effort and risk-taking will eventually lead to any kind of significant improvement for you overly optimistic? In reality, some limitations are insurmountable, and no amount of effort can overcome them. Innate abilities, genetic predispositions, trauma, and irreversible events can create permanent barriers to growth. Additionally, systemic injustices and structural barriers can limit opportunities for improvement. 

It's also essential to acknowledge that while effort and risk-taking are essential, it's crucial to recognize that suffering unnecessarily for no potential gain is not only pointless but also harmful. Pushing oneself to the limit without a realistic chance of improvement can lead to physical and mental exhaustion, demotivation, and decreased well-being.

I think it would be a grave mistake if we romanticized unnecessary suffering. We all need to make informed decisions about where to invest our time and energy, and prioritize our well-being and quality of life.

Can you imagine how incredibly tragic it would be if an investor used all the expertise, methods, and tools that worldclass experts offer out there and still lost every single bet he ever made throughout his entire life until he died as a failed old man and got absolutely nothing out of all of those years of trials and tribulations that he suffered through?

 

 

Edited June 26 by Hardkill

[Thought Art]

@Hardkill Yeah but you are just socializing. 

Edited June 26 by Thought Art

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Today's generation is weak and spoiled. They seriously underestimate the labor it takes to achieve anything meaningful. You expect and even demand meaningful things for free. For example, you expect beautiful women for free. You have no understanding of the worth of things and the seriousness of life.

Pure medicine. 
 

I read this after a night with a Brazilian model, beauty I never dreamed I’d be sleeping with consistently. 
 

Tomorrow I wake up and tackle a video on a topic I’m super passionate about. 
 

I have free time to meditate do retreats workout walk in nature hang with my friend and probably see that girl again. 
 

Im financially free and have traveled the world many times over. 
 

Im 30 

 

And it just keeps getting better. 
 

So glad this black pill shit wasn’t around when I was developing myself, well actually it probably was, Red Pill was huge, but I thank God I had the wisdom to not listen and only find empowering teachers and coaches and now i cruise on the fruits of my labor while reaching for ever higher peaks. 
 

Fuck black pill. Fuck laziness. And fuck being a victim. God would never be so cruel to create or rig the game like that 

Edited June 26 by BlessedLion
Typo

[Yimpa]

4 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Omg any guys can get a girl

The quality of the relationship is an entirely different story

[BlessedLion]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

Cultivating resiliance has been one of the best investments in my work, martial arts and romantic relationship. It's so easy to quit and so hard to keep hitting the iron day in and day out, to keep going on even when everything is shouting you to stop.

Absolutely. Eventually you hit a point where even that feels good. The resistance, the push back, the excuses. It’s like,” nah bruh we keep going. “ 

[Yimpa]

3 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

Absolutely. Eventually you hit a point where even that feels good. The resistance, the push back, the excuses. It’s like,” nah bruh we keep going. “ 

I have eczema that gets triggered by stressful events. My eczema went up significantly after I started living with my partner, but they don’t judge me for my flaws and instead see them as warrior scars 

[BlessedLion]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You know who succeeds? People who take risks. The risk is work for no reward. That's what investment is. And no investor wins on all his bets.

Good point. 
 

You know who else succeeds? The one who enjoys that work and doesn’t give a fuck if it is successful or not but just loves it for its own sake and it’s own personal growth it’s providing 

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, BlessedLion said:

Good point. 
 

You know who else succeeds? The one who enjoys that work and doesn’t give a fuck if it is successful or not but just loves it for its own sake and it’s own personal growth it’s providing 

Literally me at karaoke party tonight. Just winged it and did a ton better than I could have ever expected 

[BlessedLion]

3 hours ago, Hardkill said:

But isn't the idea that effort and risk-taking will eventually lead to any kind of significant improvement for you overly optimistic? In reality, some limitations are insurmountable, and no amount of effort can overcome them. Innate abilities, genetic predispositions, trauma, and irreversible events can create permanent barriers to growth. Additionally, systemic injustices and structural barriers can limit opportunities for improvement. 

It's also essential to acknowledge that while effort and risk-taking are essential, it's crucial to recognize that suffering unnecessarily for no potential gain is not only pointless but also harmful. Pushing oneself to the limit without a realistic chance of improvement can lead to physical and mental exhaustion, demotivation, and decreased well-being.

I think it would be a grave mistake if we romanticized unnecessary suffering. We all need to make informed decisions about where to invest our time and energy, and prioritize our well-being and quality of life.

Can you imagine how incredibly tragic it would be if an investor used all the expertise, methods, and tools that worldclass experts offer out there and still lost every single bet he ever made throughout his entire life until he died as a failed old man and got absolutely nothing out of all of those years of trials and tribulations that he suffered through?

 

 

You seem pretty deep in the black pill mindset of “don’t try if you’re not already good at it” 

 

What’s the alternative for those people? To be a broke virgin? 
 

Even those atheletes you mention are finding fulfilling lives in trying to go pro. 99% won’t, but what’s the alternative? Sit around and give up and eat fucking chips all day? 
 

We all die anyway, so might as well make life interesting and challenging and suffer for what you want because if you don’t you’ll suffer for what you don’t want. Neither road escapes suffering. 

[BlessedLion]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Literally me at karaoke party tonight. Just winged it and did a ton better than I could have ever expected 

Yimpa you’re fucking wild dawg, love ya and your goofy antics. Glad you found a babe who accepts you and the eczema, keep her close 🙏

[Hardkill]

29 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

You seem pretty deep in the black pill mindset of “don’t try if you’re not already good at it” 

 

What’s the alternative for those people? To be a broke virgin? 
 

Even those atheletes you mention are finding fulfilling lives in trying to go pro. 99% won’t, but what’s the alternative? Sit around and give up and eat fucking chips all day? 
 

We all die anyway, so might as well make life interesting and challenging and suffer for what you want because if you don’t you’ll suffer for what you don’t want. Neither road escapes suffering. 

No, no, again. We all have to try as hard as we can to succeed in life. 

However, what about being realistic or pragmatic?

Edited June 26 by Hardkill

[RawJudah]

@Leo Gura I understand all of what you’re saying. I’m now 30, live in a small town and like it, and like my job. It seems so psychologically jarring to quit it all, move to a city, find another job, and learn how to approach 4000 women in the street/in a nightclub. I didn’t go to university, I’m not an academic or a doctor. 
I was good with girls and was really popular in school, and that was years ago now. It would feel like I’m going back 10 years. 
 

[Ramanujan]

black pill is gay and retarded

 

redpill and mgtow is the way to go

Edited June 26 by Ramanujan

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Hardkill said:

But isn't the idea that effort and risk-taking will eventually lead to any kind of significant improvement for you overly optimistic? 

I told you that there are no gaurantees.

You keep wanting them. Then don't take any risk. You will achieve nothing but you will be safe from any failure.

If you are asking such questions then you have already failed at success.

Edited June 26 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

8 hours ago, Hardkill said:

But even if guys like him tried the most effective ways of game, isn't it still possible that they would still be doomed failed to improve their game to any significant degree at all?

 

In an unbroken chain, all your ancestors, from your great-grandparents to their great-great-grandparents, till the dinosaur age and who knows what; got fucking laid for you to exist as a human

You can do it too

In the dating world there's so much learnt helplessness from the man. Cut the bullshit, go get pussy

Go get a wife

Most humans would be miserable without a romantic partner, it's not optional, you'll have to kill yourself consciously in the process, or life will slowly kill you over the years and decades.

So if you are in this situation, take a decision right here and now, to become skillfull in attracting high quality women in your life. Leave the computer and reflect on the life journey you're gonna embark and what your life will become if you actually 100% commit to it and what would happen to your life, most likely, if you don't.

Who am I going to spend my life with?

Am I going to die alone without a family in an old people's homes?

Am I gonna settle with the most mediocre woman and suffer through that relationship for the rest of my life because in my twenties and thirties I didn't do the uncomfortable emotional work to satisfy my real needs? How immature and childish could I be!

...

Time is passing away. Take a decision, take Action now. Before it is too late and you regret for the rest of your life

[Kid A]

I think people who flirt with black pill ideology either are very young, socialize way too little, or both. There’s a strong tendency for things to even out in life. Take these two friends of mine: The first one was the most good looking and popular guy you could ever imagine.  He committed suicide two years ago, even though he had «everything». The second guy is pretty similar. We all especially used to envy this guy’s body so much. Now his body is dysfunctional and he’s basically a cripple at the age of 29. 

Edited June 26 by Kid A

[Yimpa]

Even the most successful people cannot escape beautiful lessons life offers you. The juiciest  lessons are the hardest to swallow. 

Take for example Gordon Ramsay. A dude who has made a career out of perfecting his craft and yelling at others to do it “right”.

Well, something in his life finally went tragically wrong. It taught him just how much we take for granted in life. Here he is to share the story:

 

[integral]

You’re falling for virginity problems.

You’ll never go back to this mindset once you surpassed his first hurdle of getting a girlfriend. But after that a whole new problem will reveal itself don’t you worry

Edited June 26 by integral

[BlessedLion]

9 hours ago, Hardkill said:

No, no, again. We all have to try as hard as we can to succeed in life. 

However, what about being realistic or pragmatic?

Yeah. I think it’s important to be honest with ourselves but that’s also the value in finding what your gifted at or good at. But how can you know what you can succeed at without putting a few years of work into it? 

[BlessedLion]

7 hours ago, Ramanujan said:

redpill and mgtow is the way to go

Red pill is just entitled selfish and obnoxious. Red pill guys don’t know how to actually satisfy and love women. They are macho idiots, none of them are superior men, tantric men. 

MGTOW is basically guys who can’t get laid folding their balls up and saying “well, we don’t need you anyway!” As they cower into the corner with their laptops acting like they don’t care about women and sex anyway. As they consume porn daily.